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Let's let the climate change just enough for Nauru to sink into the sea
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# ? Jun 20, 2015 14:53 |
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The great thing about Nauru is that Australia has hosed their economy and way of life so badly that they're almost entirely dependent upon us for survival and we've corrupted their political process to the extreme so there's no room for self-determination that way either. It's like trapping a family into slavery for X generations, stripping their education and ability to survive or do anything other than the menial labour for which you've bred them, and then saying "well what do you want me to do, give them their freedom? They'd be lost without me!" Good stuff. e: To round out the shoddy metaphor you'd also probably want to specify that the menial labour that comprises this slave family's entire existence is essentially murdering and burying your business rivals. Sulla Faex fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Jun 20, 2015 |
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# ? Jun 20, 2015 15:03 |
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:You ever wonder why the US military is still developing human battle suits that would make the wearer near-immortal, even as battlefield infantry become less and less relevant and recruitment to non-commissioned military service remains entrenched within the lower classes? It's so that in twenty years time the richest among us (I say 'us' but, well) can cocoon themselves into living battle tanks and stomp though the cities like veritable gods, crushing peasants underfoot with little regard for human flesh or street lamps. Modern advancements into incredible longevity and medical health will see his type live for centuries. He has every right to be afraid, though - these next few decades are pivotal, when the world is teetering on the edge of oblivion and the chance remains for some of us to cling like rats to their coat tails as they soar away into majestic eternity and the rest fall into the abyss. Honestly if the mega rich were stomping around on people in mega-battle-awesome-suits, they would be dead within the hour. The American military is pretty awesome in the most literally meaning of the word, but its still run on people, and people are going to turn on corporations before that point. Societies a hell of a lot less stable then people would like to think it is, and fundamentally in a collapsed society money means gently caress all, and most of the people who could engineer such machines would be well aware of that fact. Its not beneficially for any capitalists ruling class to bring about any sort of apocalyptic a do, because it would just brings down the value of everyones investments to next to zero, which means not that much to people without investments, but those with large, it fucks over royal. Although possibly your being sarcastic with all that, in which case ignore these rum soaked ramblings.
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HookShot posted:I don't watch or follow tennis so I actually didn't know this. That's crazy, and yeah, especially in a sport where the stakes are so high, and where doping would come in so handy. That's the same argument used by tennis people to support the "drugs don't work here" - that it's all technique and skill. Like you do watch prime Federer and he was so much more talented than anyone else, and indeed Novak and Nadal are both amazingly skilled. The issue becomes when its apparent that saying "its all skill" is starting to be chipped away by that its becoming more and more apparent its about cardio. Novak Djokovic for example is notorious for his ability to never stop playing, which he puts down to quote "a gluten free diet". More objective people would put it down to EPO. Nadal too was known for his ridiculous stamina and strangely timed leg injuries. http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2015-02-04/18347.php Essentially all the drugs that destroyed Cycling are now rife in tennis but they don't want to do anything because tennis is a "gentlemens" sport and all these filthy precautions being called for are putting a shade on the beautiful game. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-08/federer-wants-more-drug-testing/5078070 I did misquote Federer's testing numbers but you get to see here Novak calling for less testing. Yes.
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:The great thing about Nauru is that Australia has hosed their economy and way of life so badly that they're almost entirely dependent upon us for survival and we've corrupted their political process to the extreme so there's no room for self-determination that way either. It's like trapping a family into slavery for X generations, stripping their education and ability to survive or do anything other than the menial labour for which you've bred them, and then saying "well what do you want me to do, give them their freedom? They'd be lost without me!" Looking at the history of Nauru is really depressing, as they did so much right. They knew they had a limited resources in phosphorous, so they put the money into a an investment trust that would support them after the phosphorous was depleted. Absolutely best course of action given their situation, unfortunately, they just hosed up the what to invest in part, and every thing went to poo poo. wikipedia posted:The Nauruan economy peaked in the early 1980s, as it was dependent almost entirely on the phosphate deposits that originate from the droppings of sea birds. There are few other resources, and most necessities are imported.Small-scale mining is still conducted by RONPhos, formerly known as the Nauru Phosphate Corporation. The government places a percentage of RONPhos's earnings into the Nauru Phosphate Royalties Trust. The Trust manages long-term investments, which were intended to support the citizens once the phosphate reserves were exhausted. Seriously, their investment managed to shrunk to a tenth its size during one of the largest worldwide economic growth periods on record. Its sort of amazing how badly they managed to invest.
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How did Nauru get the gig, whatever happened to East Timor? After leading a successful invasion, Australia departed, leaving the place dependent on foreign aid. Surely an ideal destination for surplus asylum seekers.
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Negligent posted:How did Nauru get the gig, whatever happened to East Timor? After leading a successful invasion, Australia departed, leaving the place dependent on foreign aid. Surely an ideal destination for surplus asylum seekers. Settle down, we haven't even filled the first one yet! But east Timor has (had?) oil and other countries like to liberate those kinds of places.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 01:17 |
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Security guards at Australia's detention centre on Nauru allegedly circulated videos of themselves having sex with asylum seekers who had been paid to participate, a former senior social worker on the island has claimed. Charlotte Wilson was, until February this year, a Save the Children case manager at the Nauru Regional Processing Centre. In her explosive submission to the Senate inquiry, which is investigating allegations of abuse at the facility, she claims to have been told it was "acknowledged in management meetings between service providers" that acts of "solicitation" were occurring in the community between female refugees and Australian security officers employed by Wilson Security. "It was also established that these acts had been filmed and circulated around Wilson staff," she said, of the rumours that began to circulate in January. She added: "I was also told that because prostitution is legal on Nauru that no action was being taken against the staff members involved." Sink Australia imho.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 01:21 |
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And because they're not prisoners, it's not rape?
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 01:26 |
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https://twitter.com/spikelynch/status/612393058206748672
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 01:49 |
Lid posted:That's the same argument used by tennis people to support the "drugs don't work here" - that it's all technique and skill. Like you do watch prime Federer and he was so much more talented than anyone else, and indeed Novak and Nadal are both amazingly skilled. The issue becomes when its apparent that saying "its all skill" is starting to be chipped away by that its becoming more and more apparent its about cardio. Novak Djokovic for example is notorious for his ability to never stop playing, which he puts down to quote "a gluten free diet". More objective people would put it down to EPO. Nadal too was known for his ridiculous stamina and strangely timed leg injuries. Yeah, I'd definitely consider tennis to be a prime example of a sport where the athletes could benefit. I mean sure, tehre's a ton of technique and skill involved, but the games go on for loving hours sometimes, and someone with extra arm strength is going to be able to serve a ball a lot faster than the other dude. Skiing on the other hand rarely goes on for more than two minutes at a time (though cardio comes in handy in terms of not being totally dead at the end of season), and while more strength is definitely useful, it's way more a sport about not loving up than about being strong. And that's a sport where they do test the athletes like all the time. The fact that they don't in tennis blows my mind. edit: http://www.fis-ski.com/mm/Document/documentlibrary/Medical/06/94/81/FISStatistics2014-15seasonfinal_Neutral.pdf Outside of competition last year FIS did 122 urine, 57 blood and 117 blood passport tests on alpine skiers. They did 134 urine and 22 blood tests during competition (apparently just during the world champs, I actually thought they did them before all the comps) HookShot fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jun 21, 2015 |
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 02:13 |
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I cant loving take this. I know I said this the last time I said this but oh god how the gently caress can things possibly get worse after this week? Australia will never fail to disappoint.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 02:46 |
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Negligent posted:How did Nauru get the gig, whatever happened to East Timor? After leading a successful invasion, Australia departed, leaving the place dependent on foreign aid. Surely an ideal destination for surplus asylum seekers. it's like the perfect spot. it has no export except phosphate which has nearly all run out. the governmnet is corrupt as gently caress. australia has a presense there already in terms of 'aid' mentoring their police and courts. most wealthy nauruans have shipped off to brisbane. it's a tiny island with no way off unless you fly out on their state owned airline, and the locals are mostly semi-uneducated, impoverished, and hostile towards outsiders. i'd say something like 50+% of guards were locals too, who hated the asylum seekers. there was abuse daily and the locals were untrained to even be in a position of power, let alone over children. thing is, they were so desperate for guards they had to take what they could get, so it was the worst of the worst. the whitey guards were almost having to guard the local guards and make sure they weren't doing something they shouldn't
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 02:57 |
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So a huge loving anti-vax protest March is going down Adelaide Street in Brisbane Lol.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 03:46 |
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Jumpingmanjim posted:So a huge loving anti-vax protest March is going down Adelaide Street in Brisbane Lol. Douse them with raw milk.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 04:01 |
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Get somebody with measles down there stat.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 04:14 |
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HookShot posted:Skiing on the other hand rarely goes on for more than two minutes at a time (though cardio comes in handy in terms of not being totally dead at the end of season), and while more strength is definitely useful, it's way more a sport about not loving up than about being strong. And that's a sport where they do test the athletes like all the time. The fact that they don't in tennis blows my mind. Cross-country skiing at an elite level requires similar aerobic capacity to elite road cycling, with suggestions that some of the most fit aerobic athletes in history, going by vo2 max, have been cross-country skiers. So given the whole point of poo poo like EPO is to boost vo2 max, I'd like to think the FIS is testing as hard as UCI. Kim Jong ill fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Jun 21, 2015 |
# ? Jun 21, 2015 04:37 |
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HookShot posted:That's like my husband who swears that there's no way Cadel Evans takes drugs even though literally everyone else on the TDF does, because he's a good bloke and just wouldn't do that sort of thing. This is what Australians actually believe.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 04:42 |
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/nauru-guards-paid-for-sex-with-asylum-seekers-and-filmed-it-social-worker-claims-20150620-ght36i.html posted:Nauru guards paid for sex with asylum seekers and filmed it, social worker claims
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Lascivious Sloth posted:it's like the perfect spot. it has no export except phosphate which has nearly all run out. the governmnet is corrupt as gently caress. australia has a presense there already in terms of 'aid' mentoring their police and courts. most wealthy nauruans have shipped off to brisbane. it's a tiny island with no way off unless you fly out on their state owned airline, and the locals are mostly semi-uneducated, impoverished, and hostile towards outsiders. i'd say something like 50+% of guards were locals too, who hated the asylum seekers. there was abuse daily and the locals were untrained to even be in a position of power, let alone over children. thing is, they were so desperate for guards they had to take what they could get, so it was the worst of the worst. the whitey guards were almost having to guard the local guards and make sure they weren't doing something they shouldn't Their government is a mess. There was recently a story about how the AFP was investigating claims that an Australian phosphate company provided bribes to the former opposition leader (now president) of Nauru, who used the funds for election campaigning. The government since being elected has suspended five opposition MPs, removed the police commissioner and removed the chief justice plus any other foreign officials they don't like the look of. And one of the offers for those bribes was to sell off the only resource the nation has. http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2015/s4250993.htm quote:ALEX MCDONALD: Leaked emails show when David Adeang was in opposition, he received a $10,000 a month from the Australian phosphate company Getax. Our government says that Nauru is a sovereign nation so basically what happens over there is not our responsibility. Oh and it's also not our responsibility to have any oversight of whether we deal with a country that is hugely corrupt and does not have the resources to house asylum seekers. Don't you love outsourcing? ~~~ On another story, the Fair Work Ombudsman has investigated chicken producer Baiada, which produce chickens for Steggles and Lilydale, after Lateline did an exposé into their labour hire practices. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-17/chicken-company-worker-exploitation/6554688 Anyway turns out all the dodgy poo poo that Lateline exposed happened, plus even more dodgy poo poo was found! Because not only was their Beresfield plant caught up in it, turns out (surprise surprise) their other plants at Tamworth and Hanwood were also breaking the law. I encourage everyone to watch the Lateline video, but highlights include: - Workers completing up to 18 hour work days with no overtime paid - Women being paid less than men for the same work - Workers being housed in shared lodgings, with rent taken directly out of their pay - Baiada not cooperating with the investigation and refusing to let Fair Work inspectors into their plants Unsurprisingly the hiring was outsourced to labour hire companies who employed temporary foreign workers, mostly from Taiwan. Even worse, Baiada has largely been able to escape prosecution, because technically it was the labour hire companies who were employing the workers. And the labour hire companies were an expanding ring of connected companies, which mysteriously have ceased operating when they are investigated. I can't believe Baiada has been able to get away with having basically no governance of the labour hire companies it uses. Baiada had verbal agreements with the companies to provide labour, how that's even allowed I don't know.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 05:40 |
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Have another cheerful article that bodes well for the future lolquote:The government is not merely determined to strip away the rights of its citizens on grounds of terror, it is also delivering powerful new rights to corporations on grounds of trade.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 06:01 |
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Peter Singer wrote a pretty decent book about the problems with free trade agreements. The examples are a bit out of date, but it's still worth a look. https://books.google.com.au/books?i...e&q=fur&f=false
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 06:06 |
Bill Shorten, AWU official posted:I think sometimes some of the critics say this is all bad for myself and for Labor," he said. "You know, I think it demonstrates why the Labor Party's got a better vision for the future because we're not into dividing the joint, we're not into dividing worker versus employer.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 06:18 |
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Imagine being remembered as the guy who was less popular than Tony Abbott. Herpes is more popular than Tony Abbott.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 06:25 |
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This week should have been a free kick Abbott's head in but how Labor managed to gently caress it up I'll never even be able to understand.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 06:34 |
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SynthOrange posted:This week should have been a free kick Abbott's head in but how Labor managed to gently caress it up I'll never even be able to understand. Just remember who's leading Labor and it should all be clear.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 06:48 |
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Ragingsheep posted:Just remember who's leading Labor and it should all be clear. yeah, but no one can remember who's leading Labor
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 06:57 |
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I'm just a Bill And I'm only a Bill And I'm secretly a capitalist shill
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 06:59 |
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Bill Shorten is essentially Frank Underwood without any of the charisma or competence.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:04 |
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Frank Blunderwood.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:09 |
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Anidav posted:Frank Blunderwood. I'm convinced the Murdoch papers would use this if it didn't mean indirectly promoting Netflix.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:24 |
Kim Jong ill posted:Cross-country skiing at an elite level requires similar aerobic capacity to elite road cycling, with suggestions that some of the most fit aerobic athletes in history, going by vo2 max, have been cross-country skiers. So given the whole point of poo poo like EPO is to boost vo2 max, I'd like to think the FIS is testing as hard as UCI. Yeah, everything I've posted is about alpine skiing, which is a sport I both compete in and know about, unlike cross country. But I know Lid (and like most of the rest of this thread) knows that so I didn't feel the need to be more specific.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:44 |
ALPINE IS THE ONE TRUE SKIING DISCIPLINE BOW DOWN TO THE GODS
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:46 |
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:47 |
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Skiing is a bit different from how I remember it back in the day.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:48 |
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the gods must be crazy
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:49 |
This is how his leg looked after that crash
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:50 |
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HookShot posted:
Maybe if he had two skis and two poles it would have been different.
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# ? Jun 21, 2015 07:51 |
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Pred1ct posted:Their government is a mess. There was recently a story about how the AFP was investigating claims that an Australian phosphate company provided bribes to the former opposition leader (now president) of Nauru, who used the funds for election campaigning. The government since being elected has suspended five opposition MPs, removed the police commissioner and removed the chief justice plus any other foreign officials they don't like the look of. yeah I spent a few years there until recently. the place is another world..
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Stuff on Baida [/quote] Baida have history. And it's worse than the wages stuff. http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/decapitation-death-companys-legal-bid-fails-20130530-2nd4z.html A worker was decapited. The company hosed down the machine and restarted it immediately after requiring the people who had worked along side the deceased man to continue working. They then tried to stop their employees giving evidence at the Worksafe investigation. The icing on that sitty cake? The Camilleri family, owners of Baida, are multi-millionaires.
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