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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


DIVISION 2: RERO RERO RERO RERO

Seth Rollins
Jay Lethal
Jay Briscoe
Cesaro
Nick Jackson
ACH
Tomohiro Ishii
Charlotte

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KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008
DIVISION 2: RERO RERO RERO RERO

Seth Rollins
Jay Lethal
Kazuchika Okada
Cesaro
Hiroshi Tanahashi
ACH
Tomohiro Ishii
Adam Cole

Illinois Smith
Nov 15, 2003

Ninety-one? There are ninety other "Tiger Drivers"? Do any involve actual tigers, or driving?

HulkaMatt posted:


DIVISION 2: RERO RERO RERO RERO

Seth Rollins vs. Hirooki Goto
Jay Lethal vs. Zack Sabre Jr.
Kazuchika Okada vs. Jay Briscoe
Johnny Gargano vs. Cesaro
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Nick Jackson
Chris Hero vs. ACH
Tomohiro Ishii vs. Randy Orton vs. Trevor Lee
Adam Cole vs. Charlotte

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Seth Rollins
Zack Sabre Jr.
Kazuchika Okada
Cesaro (tough choice for me)
Hiroshi Tanahashi
Chris Hero
Tomohiro Ishii
Adam Cole (bay bay)

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
Seth Rollins
Zack Sabre Jr.
Kazuchika Okada
Cesaro
Hiroshi Tanahashi
ACH
Tomohiro Ishii
Charlotte

HulkaMatt
Feb 14, 2006

BIG BICEPS SHOHEI


Hirooki Goto
Jay Lethal
Kazuchika Okada
Cesaro
Hiroshi Tanahashi
ACH
Tomohiro Ishii
Adam Cole

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Seth Rollins
Jay Lethal
Kazuchika Okada
Cesaro
Hiroshi Tanahashi
ACH
Tomohiro Ishii
Adam Cole

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

Thauros posted:

I'm genuinely curious. What Trevor Lee stuff should I check out to find out why he's so awesome? I've seen a couple of his PWG matches and he's good, but I def wouldn't put him over Ishii.

some people just like him more. I dig Ishii when he's at his best but all his matches run together for me.

as for Trevor's best stuff it's probably either the triple threat from Mystery Vortex II, the Roddy match from From Out of Nowhere, or the Speedball match from Don't Sweat the Technique. He hasn't had a blowaway match for WWN or CZW yet and I'm really not familiar enough with SMASH to give any recommendations there.

oatgan fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jun 21, 2015

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer
Seth Rollins
Jay Lethal
Kazuchika Okada
Cesaro
Hiroshi Tanahashi
Chris Hero
Tomohiro Ishii
Charlotte

Red is Dead
Apr 28, 2008

The great and devious UltraMantis Black hides from no man, woman, beast, or unearthly spirit.
Seth Rollins
Zack Sabre Jr.
Okada
Cesaro
Hiroshi Tanahashi
Chris Hero
Tomohiro Ishii
Charlotte

Grozz Nuy
Feb 21, 2008

Welcome to Moonside.

Wecomel to Soonmide.

Moonwel ot cosidme.
Yeah the triple threat and his match with Speedball are definitely Trevor's best in PWG thus far. The triple threat is particularly remarkable because the crowd goes from not having a clue who he is to loving the poo poo out of him over the course of a fifteen minute match. I just don't especially like Ishii because like Oatgan said all of his matches are kind of the same, and as much as I love dudes who do lots of powerbombs I am so over watching him stare dead-eyed at the other guy after getting elbowed in the face. I remember people losing their minds over his Wrestle Kingdom match and it just did nothing for me at all. It doesn't help that he's been feuding with a guy I like even less for months.

Grozz Nuy fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jun 21, 2015

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Grozz Nuy posted:

Yeah the triple threat and his match with Speedball are definitely Trevor's best in PWG thus far. The triple threat is particularly remarkable because the crowd goes from not having a clue who he is to loving the poo poo out of him over the course of a fifteen minute match. I just don't especially like Ishii because like Oatgan said all of his matches are kind of the same, and as much as I love dudes who do lots of powerbombs I am so over watching him stare dead-eyed at the other guy after getting elbowed in the face. I remember people losing their minds over his Wrestle Kingdom match and it just did nothing for me at all. It doesn't help that he's been feuding with a guy I like even less for months.

Yeah his Makabe matches are kind of lame. I wish he had started feuding when Honma instead after he won the vacated title.

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

Thanks guys

I've seen some of his PWG stuff but not any of those matches.

And yeah, the Ishii vs Makabe feud has been pretty dreadful and gone on way too long, I'm just attributing most of the blame to Makabe there based on recent work.

Writer Cath
Apr 1, 2007

Box. Flipped.
Plaster Town Cop
Seth Rollins
Jay Lethal
Kazuchika Okada
Johnny Gargano
Nick Jackson
ACH
Tomohiro Ishii
Charlotte

Jay 2K Winger
Oct 10, 2007

What are you looking for?

Grozz Nuy posted:

The triple threat is particularly remarkable because the crowd goes from not having a clue who he [Trevor Lee] is to loving the poo poo out of him over the course of a fifteen minute match.

This perfectly summarizes Trevor Lee for anyone who sees him live. I first saw him at a Wrestling Is Fun show, no clue who he was, and after that match, I thought, "This guy is gonna be big."

Grozz Nuy
Feb 21, 2008

Welcome to Moonside.

Wecomel to Soonmide.

Moonwel ot cosidme.

Jay 2K Winger posted:

This perfectly summarizes Trevor Lee for anyone who sees him live. I first saw him at a Wrestling Is Fun show, no clue who he was, and after that match, I thought, "This guy is gonna be big."

Also, I've already mentioned how young he is in this thread but that PWG debut match happened in March of last year so he was 20 at the time when he blew a super hardcore indie crowd away. It's insane how good he already is for his age, the sky really is the limit for him. There's a reason why guys like Steen and Hero are calling him the future of indie wrestling.

Chewy Bitems
Dec 25, 2012

PIIIISSSSSSSS!!!!
DIVISION 2 ROUND 2

Seth Rollins
Zack Sabre Jr.
Kazuchika Okada
Cesaro
Hiroshi Tanahashi
ACH
Tomohiro Ishii
Charlotte

HulkaMatt
Feb 14, 2006

BIG BICEPS SHOHEI


THE RESULTS ARE IN



Division 2 Round 2 Total Voters: 72


pre:
Seth Rollins          [59]   vs.   [13]       Hirooki Goto               | ---------
Jay Lethal            [49]   vs.   [21]       Zack Sabre Jr.             | 2 Abstain
Kazuchika Okada       [63]   vs.   [09]       Jay Briscoe                | ---------
Johnny Gargano        [12]   vs.   [59]       Cesaro                     | 1 Abstain
Hiroshi Tanahashi     [54]    vs.  [18]       Nick Jackson               | ---------
Chris Hero            [40]   vs.   [32]       ACH                        | ---------
Tomohiro Ishii        [44]   vs.   [13]/[14]  Randy Orton/Trevor Lee     | 1 Abstain
Adam Cole             [42]   vs.   [30]       Charlotte                  | ---------

HulkaMatt
Feb 14, 2006

BIG BICEPS SHOHEI


:siren: :siren: DIVISION 2 ROUND 2 IS OVER :siren: :siren:

:siren: :siren: DIVISION 3 ROUND 2 STARTS NOW :siren: :siren:





Shinsuke Nakamura - Eliminated in R4 in 2013 to Prince Devitt.
Positives: Has boatloads of charisma and has turned into a fantastic wrestler. YeaOh!
Negatives: Has lost some momentum over the last year? I don't know.

Kenny Omega - Eliminated in R4 in 2011 by Kevin Steen. Eliminated in R3 in 2013 by Mark Henry.
Positives: Good wrestler who has finally made it to the big leagues in NJPW.
Negatives: His wacky antics and selling in his matches do not please everyone.

Cedric Alexander - Not in 2013 Arch of Bunk tournament.
Positives: Has become a bigger singles wrestler over the last 2 years.
Negatives: Isn't on the level of some past indy stars.

Karl Anderson - Eliminated in 2013 Arch of Bunk Quarter-Finals by Kazuchika Okada [Division 4]
Positives: He's really good anywhere on the card.
Negatives: Bullet Club has hurt his stock as a singles star. Is facing his partner!

Minoru Suzuki - Eliminated in 2013 Arch of Bunk Quarter-Finals by Hiroshi Tanahashi [Division 3]
Positives: Ultra heel. Great wrestler. Is going to end up bringing Kobashi back for one match (right???).
Negatives: Has really just wrestled in NOAH over the past year, which nobody really watches. Will probably get killed by Kobashi again.

Togi Makabe - Not in 2013 Arch of Bunk tournament.
Positives: Big brawler who can beat you up.
Negatives: Gets banged up a lot.

Tomoaki Honma - Not in 2013 Arch of Bunk tournament.
Positives: The new ultimate underdog. Everybody loves him. Has more wins than losses so far this year!
Negatives: He loses. A lot.

Kane - Eliminated in R1 in 2011 by LA Park. Eliminated in R3 in 2013 by El Generico.
Positives: PSP has a history of loving this man.
Negatives: He's bad.

John Cena - Eliminated in R2 in 2011 by Chris Hero.
Positives: Has basically carried WWE on his back for most of the last ten years; better wrestler than most give him credit for; does a superhuman amount of charity work.
Negatives: WWE may have done some damage to his drawing power over the last couple of years.

Kurt Angle - Eliminated in R2 in 2011 by The Great Muta. Eliminated in R3 in 2013 by Dolph Ziggler.
Positives: Is known as one of the best wrestlers of the last decade. Extremely hard worker who always tries to have a great match.
Negatives: Is getting up there in age. Quality of match not what it used to be. Is still in a TNA world.

Rusev - Not in 2013 Arch of Bunk tournament.
Positives: Overperformed in his role on TV. Had a very good character and had great chemistry with his manager, Lana.
Negatives: The last several months has been him losing, getting injured and losing his manager.

KUSHIDA - Eliminated in R1 in 2013 by Shinsuke Nakamura.
Positives: Ultra great & lovable junior wrestler with a ton of heart. Works real hard. Just won the BOSJ!
Negatives: Just lost his tag partner.

Brock Lesnar - Eliminated in R4 in 2013 by Minoru Suzuki.
Positives: Amazing. Probably the most over character in WWE today. Has that scary wrestler factor where whenever he comes out, you know someone is going to die.
Negatives: Was just brought back in a really lovely way after getting suspended.

Tyler Breeze - Not in 2013 Arch of Bunk tournament.
Positives: Takes selfies. Solid wrestler.
Negatives: Is on a roster full of guys with bigger reputations.

Katsuyori Shibata - Eliminated in R2 in 2013 by Mark Henry.
Positives: STIFF.
Negatives: Has wrestled in 2 singles matches all year long.

Bray Wyatt - Eliminated in R1 in 2013 by Chris Jericho.
Positives: Can be pretty good. Is still protected above many others.
Negatives: He has lost a bunch of feuds at this point but nothing about his character ever changes.

Bayley - Not in 2013 Arch of Bunk tournament.
Positives: A great baby face, connects well with the audience. Achievable.
Negatives: Never wins the big one.


DIVISION 3: OH MY GOD

Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kenny Omega
Cedric Alexander vs. Karl Anderson
Minoru Suzuki vs. Togi Makabe
Tomoaki Honma vs. Kane
John Cena vs. Kurt Angle
Rusev vs. KUSHIDA
Brock Lesnar vs. Tyler Breeze vs. Katsuyori Shibata
Bray Wyatt vs. Bayley

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

DIVISION 3: OH MY GOD

Shinsuke Nakamura - Best in the world, easy
Karl Anderson
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena - I want to protest vote against Cena again but I can't honestly condone voting for Kurt Angle these days
KUSHIDA - Rusev may have improved a lot last year but Kushida has been on loving fire lately
Brock Lesnar
Bayley - better character these days

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

DIVISION 3: OH MY GOD

Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kenny Omega
Cedric Alexander vs. Karl Anderson
Minoru Suzuki vs. Togi Makabe
Tomoaki Honma vs. Kane
John Cena vs. Kurt Angle
Rusev vs. KUSHIDA
Brock Lesnar vs. Tyler Breeze vs. Katsuyori Shibata
Bray Wyatt vs. Bayley (sorry Bayley :()

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

Shinsuke Nakamura
Cedric Alexander
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
KUSHIDA
Brock Lesnar
Bray Wyatt

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

murderers row of the best wrestlers on the planet left in this bracket

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

oatgan posted:

murderers row of the best wrestlers on the planet left in this bracket

Bray Wyatt is also present and accounted for

Blankgambit
Mar 30, 2010
Nakamura
Cedric
Suzuki
Honma
Cena
KUSHIDA
Shibata
Bayley

HulkaMatt
Feb 14, 2006

BIG BICEPS SHOHEI


Shinsuke Nakamura
Cedric Alexander
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
KUSHIDA
Brock Lesnar
Bayley


GO KUSHIDA GO~!~!~!

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Kenny Omega
Cedric Alexander
Togi Makabe
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
Rusev
Brock Lesnar
Bayley

Karmine
Oct 23, 2003

If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine.
Shinsuke Nakamura
Cedric Alexander
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
Rusev
Brock Lesnar
Bayley

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
Shinsuke Nakamura
Karl Anderson
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
KUSHIDA
Brock Lesnar
Bayley

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

HulkaMatt posted:


DIVISION 3: OH MY GOD

Shinsuke Nakamura
Karl Anderson
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma - please don't vote for Kane, ever
Abstain, because gently caress Cena
KUSHIDA
Katsuyori Shibata
because Lesnar isn't as frightening
Abstain because who cares

duyarvish
Feb 7, 2015
Nakamura
Karl Anderson
Suzuki
Honma
John
Kushida
Brock
Bayley

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Shinsuke Nakamura
Karl Anderson
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
KUSHIDA
Katsuyori Shibata
Bayley

super macho dude
Aug 9, 2014


if you dont vote for Kane, you're probably some gay rear end liberal.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Shinsuke Nakamura
Cedric Alexander
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
KUSHIDA
Brock Lesnar
Bayley

rare Magic card l00k
Jan 3, 2011


Shinsuke Nakamura
Karl Anderson
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
KUSHIDA
Brock Lesnar
Abstain

Chewy Bitems
Dec 25, 2012

PIIIISSSSSSSS!!!!
DIVISION 3: OH MY GOD

Kenny Omega
Karl Anderson
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
KUSHIDA
Brock Lesnar
Bayley

NotQuiteQuentin
Jan 29, 2005

BIG OVER
College Slice
Shinsuke Nakamura
Cedric Alexander
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
KUSHIDA
Brock Lesnar
Bray Wyatt

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

Shinsuke Nakamura - sorry Kenny, this was a tough one :(
Karl Anderson
Togi Makabe
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
Rusev
Brock Lesnar
Bayley

tigerdriver82
Jun 15, 2009

Yo, you best
~Protect Your Neck~
Ah yeah, again and again!
DIVISION 3: OH MY GOD

Shinsuke Nakamura
Cedric Alexander
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
KUSHIDA
Brock Lesnar
Bayley

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Joey McChrist
Aug 8, 2005

DIVISION 3: OH MY GOD

Shinsuke Nakamura
Cedric Alexander
Minoru Suzuki
Tomoaki Honma
John Cena
KUSHIDA
Brock Lesnar
Bayley

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