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aslan posted:Definitely Christian, but way more Catholic than evangelical. There's far too much premarital/extramarital sex/swearing in it for evangelicals, Fantine is presented way too sympathetically (anything evangelical would require her to be way more sorry about the whole premarital sex thing), and Catholics are the heroes of the story--Valjean's entire arc is set in place by the bishop, not to mention the role that the nuns play in helping him and Cosette. To add to this, the musical of Les Miserables is much, much more overtly religious than the book ever was; ol' Vic Hugo was raised Catholic and spoke from that place, but while he saw good in some of the values and practices of the Church, he had some real beefs with Catholicism and the way it was practiced, and used pretty much every opportunity he could to say so. The entire point of Les Miserables the novel was for Hugo to examine, and critique, the society in which he lived- politics, war, the march of technological progress and its effects on society, the way people treat themselves and each other- and religion was a huge part of that, but hardly the only driving force. This examiniation comes through so much of his work that any good adaptation of that work has that shining through as well, and generally speaking, it requires a level of self examination and critical thinking that those drawn to Evangelism either don't want to practice, or aren't able to. I've never really minded the relative Godiness of LesMiz because the general themes of the musical all have to do with the good parts of Christianity (greed sucks, help the poor, judge not lest ye be judged, etc), but the ending does make me lift my eyebrows a bit as it does depart a little bit from the novels theme. Boubil, Natel and Kretzmer's essental theme is that life sucks and suffering is inevitable, but that those who hold Christ's ideals will ascend to Heaven and their reward after they die, whereas Hugo's point in the original novel was that if we stopped being such judgemental assholes and helped each other out, we wouldn't even need Heaven, Christian or otherwise.
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Jack Gladney posted:There was a dumb-as-poo poo history channel special about the possibility that Jesus went east to meet the Buddha as a teenager and that's why the gospels just describe his birth and his 30s. This was possibly a moonie thing as the unification life church has just purchased the history channel at that time. Wait, is this why the History Channel became what it is now?
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BigRed0427 posted:Wait, is this why the History Channel became what it is now? No, it's because like basically every other cable channel the History Channel is overspecialized so after a few years they run out of anything relevant to their original mission statement but they still have to fill air and hardly anyone likes 20 year old documentaries.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Here we go What does being Gay have to do with a sound editing program?
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quote:Challenged to an open debate on the biblical principles of homosexuality, Tony must choose between relying on his Christian values and moral convictions or taking the easy way out and just writing the story. Will Tony’s entire reporting career come crashing down if he dares to stand up for what he believes? Maybe Tony should just focus on doing his goddamned job rather than worry about if he'll go to hell or catch the gay or whatever.
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aslan posted:Definitely Christian, but way more Catholic than evangelical. There's far too much premarital/extramarital sex/swearing in it for evangelicals, Fantine is presented way too sympathetically (anything evangelical would require her to be way more sorry about the whole premarital sex thing), and Catholics are the heroes of the story--Valjean's entire arc is set in place by the bishop, not to mention the role that the nuns play in helping him and Cosette. Yeah, I kinda forgot that they'd likely sympathize with the authoritarian police officer over the literal criminal. They probably thin Stars is a good and accurate summary of their Faith. resurgam40 posted:To add to this, the musical of Les Miserables is much, much more overtly religious than the book ever was; ol' Vic Hugo was raised Catholic and spoke from that place, but while he saw good in some of the values and practices of the Church, he had some real beefs with Catholicism and the way it was practiced, and used pretty much every opportunity he could to say so. The entire point of Les Miserables the novel was for Hugo to examine, and critique, the society in which he lived- politics, war, the march of technological progress and its effects on society, the way people treat themselves and each other- and religion was a huge part of that, but hardly the only driving force. This examiniation comes through so much of his work that any good adaptation of that work has that shining through as well, and generally speaking, it requires a level of self examination and critical thinking that those drawn to Evangelism either don't want to practice, or aren't able to. Which is why I specifically pointed out the musical, which is more of a religious parable and morality tale than the book which is a societal critique. They're honestly two completely different works that share a rough plot and characters, which is fine. Both are pretty good and worth experiencing. Also, the musical had a big hollywood release recently, and would be the one most likely featuring angry blogs from morons who miss the whole point.
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raditts posted:Maybe Tony should just focus on doing his goddamned job rather than worry about if he'll go to hell or catch the gay or whatever. I long for the scene where Tony goes to his editor with his issue and says he doesn't know how he'll be able to cover the parade objectively, and the editor just says "What the gently caress, how did you even become a reporter for a secular newspaper and not realize you may have to report on stuff you don't agree with? Also, the interview is absolutely not supposed to be 'an open debate on the Biblical principles of homosexuality'. Where did that come from?"
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Parasol Prophet posted:I long for the scene where Tony goes to his editor with his issue and says he doesn't know how he'll be able to cover the parade objectively, and the editor just says "What the gently caress, how did you even become a reporter for a secular newspaper and not realize you may have to report on stuff you don't agree with? Also, the interview is absolutely not supposed to be 'an open debate on the Biblical principles of homosexuality'. Where did that come from?" Found it: 
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Jack Gladney posted:Found it: This looks like the beginning to a really really weird porno
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Jack Gladney posted:Found it: Why is the old man dressed like Doug Funny?
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I haven't seen the musical, but I recall the first chapter or something was about how much the Bishop was not like an early 19th century French Catholic bishop.
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K. Waste posted:Why is the old man dressed like Doug Funny? Quailman faces the only foe he can never defeat: the Gay Agenda (represented by a giant Mr. Bone trying to marry his partner of 17 years).
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I haven't seen the musical, but I recall the first chapter or something was about how much the Bishop was not like an early 19th century French Catholic bishop. The Catholic Church in France became a lot more conservative in its views and organization after the French Revolution. Before the Revolution the Church had a wide range of views because it was one of the ways for sons without inheritance to get a position of influence, it was the center of education of all types in France, etc. During the early years of the revolution some of the radical leaders were actual Catholic clergy. But by the end of the Revolution most of the liberal clergy just outright left the Church because it didn't have the same position in society or monopolies it once did.
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Parasol Prophet posted:I long for the scene where Tony goes to his editor with his issue and says he doesn't know how he'll be able to cover the parade objectively, and the editor just says "What the gently caress, how did you even become a reporter for a secular newspaper and not realize you may have to report on stuff you don't agree with? Also, the interview is absolutely not supposed to be 'an open debate on the Biblical principles of homosexuality'. Where did that come from?" The best thing is even an editor at the Christian Science Monitor would say this
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sbaldrick posted:The best thing is even an editor at the Christian Science Monitor would say this The Christian Science Monitor is a pretty non-religious newspaper all things considered, though. The only person I ever knew who actually subscribed to it was an atheist relative. Anyway, on the subject of Jesus going to meet Buddha, I've really wanted to see this documentary for a while, but mainly for the fact that it was written and directed by Paul Davids: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1341329/combined For those who don't know, Paul Davids co-wrote and produced the 1990s Roswell movie starring Kyle Maclachlan, but more than that he's infamous in Star Wars circles for having written a series of YA books about the illegitimate three-eyed son of Emperor Palpatine. So I'm very interested to see what he has to say about the life of Jesus.
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K. Waste posted:Why is the old man dressed like Doug Funny? I believe the question was already answered by the above post: Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:This looks like the beginning to a really really weird porno
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JediTalentAgent posted:That Chinese thing sounds like something I saw a bit of years ago in passing. A guy was showing off written Chinese characters and interpreting that they had origins in the Christianity. Eh, i may not have seen it, but i can reasonably bet it's a bunch of made up poo poo and fabrication much like those bigfoot hunters, ancient aliens, and ghost hunter shows do If there's one thing I've learned, if the film is put out to show the "TRUTH", it's most likely complete bullshit. Ironic. Maybe it wasn't purposely made to have a religious bent to it, but Saints and Soldiers made me roll my eyes continuously with the evil atheist medic wanting to kill, lie, and steal only to possibly find god in the end while the poor, honest, honorable mormon soldier struggles with guilt over an accident he committed and is deeply sorry for. muscles like this? posted:That dinosaur title is weird. I wonder if they can't legally call what they're saying "truth" when it is objectively wrong. Well,  gets to call itself news...
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:This looks like the beginning to a really really weird porno I'm expecting to see Courage pop in from from off screen and start slinging insults
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sbaldrick posted:That's a super white platoon for an American unit during Vietnam. I think you already know this but it bears repeating. Christian movies has more projection than an indie film festival.
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Did they just transpose a script set in World War II into Vietnam? That setting seems to present special challenges not evident in the trailer's presentation.
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKcmxJw-u7s I can only assume that guy offering the beef jerky is one of the Duck Dynasty guys and they crammed him into the trailer because they're still famous but that clip really messes up the atmosphere they are trying to create. Also, it's creepy as gently caress.
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Our old pal and patron Actor fo this Thread David A.R. White is way too pretty to play a grizzled old Vietnam vet.
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Robotnik Nudes posted:Our old pal and patron Actor fo this Thread David A.R. White is way too pretty to play a grizzled old Vietnam vet. 
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:Grizzled DARW (Dar Dubs if you will) is his best form! I also enjoyed Mad Max: Revelation Road
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Gods Not Dead 2 plot is out!quote:"It essentially takes place in Arkansas around a teacher who talks out of term in her class room about Jesus and that spirals out into a big mess of a situation, where she gets put on trial for that," said Lefebvre.  http://www.thv11.com/story/news/local/2015/07/03/movie-stars-descend-on-little-rock-for-film/29681749/ Not Winston! Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Jul 5, 2015 |
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I don't want to copy paste the entire thing but someone reviewed Audacity and good god I want to see it (I'm not paying $20) The twist is fantastic http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friend...ous-evangelism/ The sister is a lesbian  Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jul 5, 2015 |
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Jack Gladney posted:I hope Clarissa's not the one who's going to explain it all to those school kids. Did Hercules not make it out of the last one alive or something?
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