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SLOSifl posted:He seems about as intellectually invested as the defendants in United States v Twelve Hundred and Forty Cases of Pickled Anchovies. I love asset seize and forfeiture cases. Shark Fins rule Some Civil War thing I heard once was "The Civil War was about state's right, with the primary right in question was slavery" Nissin Cup Nudist fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jun 19, 2015 |
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ActusRhesus posted:I don't like it. The government has a bad history of treating pacifism as treason so let's not ban yelling fire in a crowded theater again.
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Jun 19, 2015 21:36
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ActusRhesus posted:I think narcissist can fairly describe nearly every elected official. You kind of have to be. The only people who want to go through our idiotic parade of fundraising, photo-ops, more fundraising, advertising, and getting hounded by the media about incredibly dumb poo poo rather than actual positions, are people who are very, very sure that they're the best for the job.
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Jun 19, 2015 21:40
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StandardVC10 posted:You kind of have to be. The only people who want to go through our idiotic parade of fundraising, photo-ops, more fundraising, advertising, and getting hounded by the media about incredibly dumb poo poo rather than actual positions, are people who are very, very sure that they're the best for the job. And that job is running the richest, most powerful nation on earth. They actually think they're fully qualified to do that over everyone else.
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Jun 19, 2015 21:46
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ActusRhesus posted:I think narcissist can fairly describe nearly every elected official. Noooo! The guy who literally stands in front of giant pictures of himself as part of his job is supposed to be humble!! etc
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Didn't the American revolution involve individuals betraying their country and forming a traitorous institution?  if you think the British wouldn't have been arresting and executing people waving the American flag if they'd won the war and kept control over the colonies. Instead of a few decades of trying some reconstruction it would've been a few decades of hunting down and hanging anyone who might've helped the revolutionaries.VitalSigns posted:When the South wins Civil War 2 then they will get the power to define themselves not-traitors-but-patriots just like we did, sorry losers. The most useful of idiots.
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Jun 20, 2015 00:49
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It really lets you know how measured Obama's tone has been when "I have a pen and a phone" is one of the things he's said that pisses off Republicans the most.
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Jun 20, 2015 00:54
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SedanChair posted:It really lets you know how measured Obama's tone has been when "I have a pen and a phone" is one of the things he's said that pisses off Republicans the most. Black people being literate and having phones enrages them.
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Jun 20, 2015 01:46
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Stultus Maximus posted:This is your brain on Fox. Yeah this is why I'm with D. Vox now. It's just absolutely gross how the lawyers and the Heritage foundation or whoever is bankrolling this stupid case are reassuring and cajoling these dupes into going along with it by promising them no one's health care is being taken away, that there's a nonexistent plan to deal with it and it's all just about reining in Obama's executive overreach that's all. Even your rubes don't want to take subsidies from anyone, you have to lie to your own side in order to get them to go along. It's why it's almost funny to see the freak-out happening now that Republicans are realizing they actually have a slight chance of winning this case and they have no plan to deal with the fallout because this was all about grandstanding and sticking it to Obama. Except it's not funny, because they probably won't be able to agree on anything in congress, and it's going to gently caress over millions of people while Republicans do their best to pin it all on Obama.
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Jun 20, 2015 02:26
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McConnell and his people have been planning to hold the subsidies hostage for some time now. The last thing I heard was him arguing for a temporary extension of the current subsidies (but not a permanent fix) in exchange for something the GOP really wants, like killing Net Neutrality or Obama authorizing the Keystone Pipeline immediately.
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Jun 20, 2015 02:51
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VitalSigns posted:Yeah this is why I'm with D. Vox now. It's just absolutely gross how the lawyers and the Heritage foundation or whoever is bankrolling this stupid case are reassuring and cajoling these dupes into going along with it by promising them no one's health care is being taken away, that there's a nonexistent plan to deal with it and it's all just about reining in Obama's executive overreach that's all. Even your rubes don't want to take subsidies from anyone, you have to lie to your own side in order to get them to go along. Well that's why we have gerrymandering.
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Jun 20, 2015 03:03
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FlamingLiberal posted:McConnell and his people have been planning to hold the subsidies hostage for some time now. The last thing I heard was him arguing for a temporary extension of the current subsidies (but not a permanent fix) in exchange for something the GOP really wants, like killing Net Neutrality or Obama authorizing the Keystone Pipeline immediately. If the SCOTUS fucks up, Obama is just going to tell McConnell to gently caress himself. He's alllll out of fucks at this point.
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FlamingLiberal posted:McConnell and his people have been planning to hold the subsidies hostage for some time now. The last thing I heard was him arguing for a temporary extension of the current subsidies (but not a permanent fix) in exchange for something the GOP really wants, like killing Net Neutrality or Obama authorizing the Keystone Pipeline immediately. Good luck getting anything through by the next Presidential election.
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Raenir Salazar posted:It's shocking how prevalent narcissist is used by right wingers to describe the President.
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Jun 20, 2015 03:44
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What Obama should do is just pull an Alabama and direct the IRS to not pay subsidies to these specific plaintiffs, and offer anyone else who doesn't want subsidies the opportunity to opt out by filing suit or something. Yeah it means a Republican president could yank subsidies from red states at will but they would never do that because not even Rush Limbaugh could spin that as Obama's fault to the people who got hosed over.
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Jun 20, 2015 03:53
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StandardVC10 posted:You kind of have to be. The only people who want to go through our idiotic parade of fundraising, photo-ops, more fundraising, advertising, and getting hounded by the media about incredibly dumb poo poo rather than actual positions, are people who are very, very sure that they're the best for the job. Not really, no. From those I've met and worked for, they're often those who are very, very sure they could make some serious bank off running or winning.
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VitalSigns posted:What Obama should do is just pull an Alabama and direct the IRS to not pay subsidies to these specific plaintiffs, and offer anyone else who doesn't want subsidies the opportunity to opt out by filing suit or something. They will spin it as Obama's fault because if that uppity ni-bongggg hadn't passed his narcissist-named socialist medicine they wouldn't have had to take it away to begin with. They will do that and you know full well they will and the loving animals in their base will eat it up.
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Jun 20, 2015 07:01
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You know what? I bet Obama even has an Obamaphone. That bastard.
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Jun 20, 2015 09:53
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DOOP posted:I love asset seize and forfeiture cases. Shark Fins rule The *only* right was slavery, and the component states weren't allowed to decide if they could waive that right or not.
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Jun 20, 2015 14:55
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Given that the dispute is whether the federal marketplace can pay out subsidies, if the court says "no" he can't very well order the federal marketplace to continue to do so. I mean, if the court says that the subsidies paid out in 2014 are not authorized by the PPACA, he can order the IRS to not collect them back on the grounds that they don't have funding to do so or whatever, but it effectively kills the federal marketplace.
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Mercury_Storm posted:You know what? I bet Obama even has an Obamaphone. That bastard. Even worse: an Obamapen
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VitalSigns posted:Even worse: an Obamapen They're most jealous of the obamapenis.
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FAUXTON posted:They're most jealous of the obamapenis. All you had today is that the obamapen is mightier than the sword, Trebeck.
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VitalSigns posted:Even worse: an Obamapen We spent billions trying to figure out how to get an Obamapen to work under the unique conditions of socialist gravity. The Russians just used an Obamapencil.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:We spent billions trying to figure out how to get an Obamapen to work under the unique conditions of socialist gravity. The Russians just used an Obamapencil. No they used a penis too.
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Taerkar posted:The anchovies got such a bum rap Personally I love treason.
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Jun 21, 2015 09:16
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So King v Burwell maybe today and Obergefell v. Hodges maybe Thursday?
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AhhYes posted:So King v Burwell maybe today and Obergefell v. Hodges maybe Thursday? Today isn't the absolute last day possible to issue those decisions, so I would say neither one today.
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It seems like a lot of people are expecting King to be the last one, ominously.
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Nate RFB posted:It seems like a lot of people are expecting King to be the last one, ominously. In a 5-4 decision poors are ordered to go die plz.
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Nate RFB posted:It seems like a lot of people are expecting King to be the last one, ominously. The obvious course of action to me is that, on the last day of opinions (June 29th? Early July?), they first greenlight gay marriage, making the everyone happy for about two minutes before they slaughter Obamacare like a lamb.
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Here's a logistical question: I understand the author of the majority opinion gets to decide when is finalized. But does the chief justice then get to decide when it's released? Assume Thomas writes the majority, joined by the liberals, with the other conservatives dissenting. Thomas says the opinion is ready, but Scalia says "my dissent isn't!" Does Roberts decide what happens?
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SCOTUSBLOG Up to 4 decisions today
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Here's a logistical question: I understand the author of the majority opinion gets to decide when is finalized. But does the chief justice then get to decide when it's released? Ultimately the Chief Justice gets to decide when an opinion is released, and various of them have used that power strategically to buy extra time to sway their fellow justices. Mostly the exact date is more a question of spacing out landmark decisions, so the press can keep up.
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Jun 22, 2015 14:58
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Kimble v. Marvel, 6-3 affirmed. Kagan announcing, the dissenters are Alito, Roberts, and Thomas.
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Ronald Mann writing up the Spider-Man case is a great coincidence. E: How the gently caress does Disney have a patent on Spider-Man? Design patent or something?
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"The Court was encouraged to overrule that precedent because it doesn't make much economic sense. The Court said it would adhere to its old rule anyway." SupremeCourt.txt
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That's weird I figured they'd go against the old rule there, interested to hear their reasons.
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dpbjinc posted:Ronald Mann writing up the Spider-Man case is a great coincidence. disney owns marvel
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Riptor posted:disney owns marvel I knew that much, but how is Spider-Man patentable?
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