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Is there a good human cleric? branwen is chaotic neutral and she'll leave when i get my rep crazy high as i plan to do. Gonna do a cleric/thief on my next run--how fast do you regen hps at 20 con? I generally do a dwarven cleric/thief with 19 con then get that buckler and push myself to 20 but that -2 dex hurts esp since i want to be a melee tank.
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Hey, Arghy. Here's a Marxo voice pack for ya.
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Jun 19, 2015 09:27
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Wait theres voice packs for this game?!
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Arghy posted:Is there a good human cleric? branwen is chaotic neutral and she'll leave when i get my rep crazy high as i plan to do. Gonna do a cleric/thief on my next run--how fast do you regen hps at 20 con? I generally do a dwarven cleric/thief with 19 con then get that buckler and push myself to 20 but that -2 dex hurts esp since i want to be a melee tank. Neutrals don't leave for high rep, only low rep. Dorn (and any other evil party member), however, will leave you when your rep hits 19. Any evil party members you recruit when your rep is already 19 or 20 will leave the first time xp is awarded. So if you're playing max-rep evil, Branwen is a perfectly solid cleric. 20 con gives you one hit point per turn, so 1 hit point per minute real-time. Also, keep in mind that cleric/thief has issues, in that the only weapons you'll be able to backstab with are clubs and quarterstaffs. http://playithardcore.com/pihwiki/index.php/Baldur%27s_Gate:_Dual_and_Multiclassing#Cleric.2FThief Taliesyn fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Jun 19, 2015 |
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Arghy posted:Is there a good human cleric? branwen is chaotic neutral and she'll leave when i get my rep crazy high as i plan to do. Gonna do a cleric/thief on my next run--how fast do you regen hps at 20 con? I generally do a dwarven cleric/thief with 19 con then get that buckler and push myself to 20 but that -2 dex hurts esp since i want to be a melee tank. Branwen is true neutral and will stay in your party with a 20 reputation. A 20 con will regenerate 1hp per TURN, not per round, so you get 1hp back per minute. That's too low to be reliable in combat but it still means you'll get a full heal from any area transition.
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Taliesyn posted:Neutrals don't leave for high rep, only low rep. I never backstab anyhow i just use thiefs as ranged units and trap finders/lock slaves. A melee thief is usually reloading the quick save repeatedly or spending 10 minutes setting up a fight i can normally just breeze through. I tried to make backstab work but holy gently caress the fail rate on hide in shadows just blows it for me and i got tired of getting killed by lucky hits. I don't know why backstab isn't a normal passive ability if your behind the target it would save so much micro. I like cleric/thief because that fills 2 extremely important roles in the group and i can then get really flexible with whoever else i want in my party. Well thats a good thing 20 con sucks so bad cause i can prolly rock a 18 wis/cha/dex cleric/thief though i might just go 16 cha and kill that dude and get his cloak. How is the dwarven defender?
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Jun 19, 2015 13:22
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With what Arghy said, how does one repeatedly backstab? I've heard of people doing this with specific builds but I don't remember how to pull it off. Gnome thief/illusionist, maybe?
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OregonDonor posted:With what Arghy said, how does one repeatedly backstab? I've heard of people doing this with specific builds but I don't remember how to pull it off. Gnome thief/illusionist, maybe? Misdirect apparently allows you to do exactly this.
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The assassination HLA turns all of your attacks for the round into backstabs. You can also cast Mislead, but keep in mind that using Mislead in any capacity is tantamount to cheating so I don't know if you wanna go there or not.
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You can also: Use an invisibility item on someone (eg Ring of Invisibility, the level 2 wizard spell, etc) Blind the thief and Hide in Shadows (the test is done on whether the thief can see someone, not vice versa) Just run away around the corner
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Yeah, easiest way to chain backstab is some sort of easy invisibility - usually potions. Dwarven Defender is a kit, which means single-class fighter since it's dwarf-only. As to how they play? Think of a brick wall.
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I'm around lv5-6 on all my party with -5 AC and 2 wizards, could i kill drizzt? I got 2 blackguards so if the life drain spells hit thats big and i can create a pretty big summoned army to face him. Seeing as i have 2 evil drow in my party atm this seems like an important thing.
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As others have said, you need to abuse wands of summoning and kill him with arrows. If he gets into melee with any of your characters, expect them to get chunked. That said, if you have a couple wands of summoning and a bunch of missile weapons and enough ammo, you can kill him at level 1. It just takes forever. Also, keep in mind that there will be (minor) repercussions in Shadows of Amn.
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Even at your level a lot of your characters will only be hitting him on natural 20s. Takes about 10 minutes with a full party, one character running in circles and the others shooting
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Taliesyn posted:Also, keep in mind that there will be (minor) repercussions in Shadows of Amn. I think the repercussions only activate if you take his gear to shadows of amn.
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Iretep posted:I think the repercussions only activate if you take his gear to shadows of amn. True, but his gear is some of the best in BG, so it's overwhelmingly likely to be carried over.
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Arghy posted:I'm around lv5-6 on all my party with -5 AC and 2 wizards, could i kill drizzt? I got 2 blackguards so if the life drain spells hit thats big and i can create a pretty big summoned army to face him. Seeing as i have 2 evil drow in my party atm this seems like an important thing. He's such a lovely mary sue that he's like level 15 or something, so even at cap it's really hard to kill him without a bunch of dudes dying. I posted a spoiler way to kill him a few posts ago so you can do that, it's the easiest way. I think it's cool to carry it over into SoA too, that is one of the funnest fights in the game imo, killing all those shits is cathartic.
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Fiddling around with Icewind Dale: EE in EE Keeper, trying to get a playable Kobold that doesn't crash the game (I am a dork and want to recreate the evil Castle Arcania party). Near as I can figure, the easiest thing would be to just make a human Fighter and then swap him into being a Kobold with his appearance, race and such, as trying to put in a straight Kobold creature just crashes the game out when he gains a level...but for whatever reason his voice won't change to a Kobold, he keeps whatever voice I gave him at the character select screen. There appears to be no option to just change the voice in either the game itself (obviously, since there's no Kobold class), nor in EE Keeper...which is annoying since if I use it to just hack in a Kobold creature, *then* I have my Kobold chittering. So it's there, I just can't figure out how to transfer it to my Human nee Kobold.
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DeathChicken posted:Fiddling around with Icewind Dale: EE in EE Keeper, trying to get a playable Kobold that doesn't crash the game (I am a dork and want to recreate the evil Castle Arcania party). Near as I can figure, the easiest thing would be to just make a human Fighter and then swap him into being a Kobold with his appearance, race and such, as trying to put in a straight Kobold creature just crashes the game out when he gains a level...but for whatever reason his voice won't change to a Kobold, he keeps whatever voice I gave him at the character select screen. There appears to be no option to just change the voice in either the game itself (obviously, since there's no Kobold class), nor in EE Keeper...which is annoying since if I use it to just hack in a Kobold creature, *then* I have my Kobold chittering. So it's there, I just can't figure out how to transfer it to my Human nee Kobold. I would just change your sprite to a kobold and then put your stats where you think they should be and ignore what it says your race is in the game.
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HES DEAD! NO EXPLOITS EITHER! seriously just spam him with monster summoning and buff the ever loving crap outta some melee dudes--2 black guards helped immensely because thats 20 hps he can't resist then poisoned blades with haste and hes hosed!
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Right, I can change the appearance easily enough through EE, it's trying to swap his voice out for the in-game Kobold chittering that's the problem.
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You'd need to make a Kobold voice pack.
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Oh wow this is some BS one of drizzt's swords can't be wielded by anyone evil and my party is all loving evil and the chainmail barely helps because everyones got that green plate or full plate. It also doesn't stack with protection stuff which is stupid, why get that chainmail when i can get plate+protection? gently caress you drizzt now i'm gonna gun for you with my good party just because of your sword!
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Arghy posted:Oh wow this is some BS one of drizzt's swords can't be wielded by anyone evil and my party is all loving evil and the chainmail barely helps because everyones got that green plate or full plate. It also doesn't stack with protection stuff which is stupid, why get that chainmail when i can get plate+protection? I use that program....who's name I can't remember, to remove the alignment restrictions on his poo poo for exactly that reason.
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Jun 22, 2015 10:37
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My archer in BG1 just rains death on everything. 74% of party kills, 68% experience value, 679 kills. Thac0 of 4, 10-15 damage, 5/2 attacks a round. Level 6. My party is Coran (main tank with his -6 AC), Faldorn, Neera, Safana, Rasaad (for fun). I feel like I don't utilize my spellcasting enough, but my archer usually just wrecks things. I've about 70k gold and have no clue what to spend it on. I've just hit Baldur's gate. Not sure what I'm going to be doing next.
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bunnielab posted:I use that program....who's name I can't remember, to remove the alignment restrictions on his poo poo for exactly that reason. Dunno if it works for EE but NearInfinity is super easy to use and make modifications with. Like seriously Baldur's Gate is incredibly easy to mod so long as you aren't inserting spell graphics and poo poo. Just about everything you can do with everything else is cleanly and clearly labelled and it;s all very self explanatory.
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Quantumfate posted:My archer in BG1 just rains death on everything. 74% of party kills, 68% experience value, 679 kills. Thac0 of 4, 10-15 damage, 5/2 attacks a round. Level 6. My party is Coran (main tank with his -6 AC), Faldorn, Neera, Safana, Rasaad (for fun). I feel like I don't utilize my spellcasting enough, but my archer usually just wrecks things. I've about 70k gold and have no clue what to spend it on. I've just hit Baldur's gate. Not sure what I'm going to be doing next. Archers in BG1 are like that, you're bringing an assault rifle to a knife fight. Later games this dies down a bit with the proliferation of magic users, but archer is still viable for the trilogy.
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BG2 is also much more generous with healing and less restrictive on resting, so staying back and taking no damage, while still effective, isn't the dominant strategy anymore.
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Quantumfate posted:I've about 70k gold and have no clue what to spend it on. I've just hit Baldur's gate. The answer is: "Arrows of Detonation", with a side order of Arrows of Dispelling. Just keep clear of the blast radius.
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Those arrows seem to be a great investment, thanks! Anything else to piss my money away on?
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Quantumfate posted:My archer in BG1 just rains death on everything. 74% of party kills, 68% experience value, 679 kills. Thac0 of 4, 10-15 damage, 5/2 attacks a round. Level 6. My party is Coran (main tank with his -6 AC), Faldorn, Neera, Safana, Rasaad (for fun). I feel like I don't utilize my spellcasting enough, but my archer usually just wrecks things. I've about 70k gold and have no clue what to spend it on. I've just hit Baldur's gate. Not sure what I'm going to be doing next. Your archer will plateau in mid BG2. Only in the sense that they'll be making 3 attacks per round and hitting every single one, which is a pretty loving high plateau, but past that point theyre really only gaining HP with each level, and an extra +1 damage every few levels. Meanwhile fighters will be doing 5APR and hitting every one by the end of BG2 and your mages will be casting timestop, abi dalzim's horrid wilting, dragon's breath etc voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Sometimes one forgets that an archer is still an extremely capable melee fighter. They have warrior HP, THAC0 and bonus attacks per round, they're just limited to 1 pip in melee weapons. The first character I went through the whole saga with was an archer. By the end of ToB he was mostly meleeing with everyone else who wasn't an arcane caster.
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Suspicious posted:Sometimes one forgets that an archer is still an extremely capable melee fighter. They have warrior HP, THAC0 and bonus attacks per round, they're just limited to 1 pip in melee weapons. Also, having a bow as your first weapon makes a good excuse to use Halberds and Great Swords instead of Sword and Shield. When I modded Valgyr into an archer he got most of his kills with Dragon's Bane and The Wave.
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I haven't played an Infinity Engine game in about 12 years and picked up Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition in the Steam sale. This is the party I was thinking of using: Paladin (Cavalier, maybe?) Fighter Fighter/Thief Ranger/Cleric Mage Bard Is this a pretty decent setup? I remember Bards being pretty good in IWD and having a cleric, thief, and mage seemed essential.
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gullah jack posted:I haven't played an Infinity Engine game in about 12 years and picked up Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition in the Steam sale. This is the party I was thinking of using: You should be fime, if you want to break the game in half make your paladin an inquitor.
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Skwirl posted:You should be fime, if you want to break the game in half make your paladin an inquitor. Is inquisitor that game breaking in Icewind Dale? Unlike BG 2 mages are fairly sparse in the dales which is what made inquisitors so drat nuts in 2.
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Metal Meltdown posted:Is inquisitor that game breaking in Icewind Dale? Unlike BG 2 mages are fairly sparse in the dales which is what made inquisitors so drat nuts in 2.
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Metal Meltdown posted:Is inquisitor that game breaking in Icewind Dale? Unlike BG 2 mages are fairly sparse in the dales which is what made inquisitors so drat nuts in 2. Dispelling all buffs/debuffs and free True Sight are pretty good. There aren't a ton of mages, but there's a good number of spell casting monsters. I honestly can't remember what Cavaliers get, But unless it's better than some situational plus 1's or 2's on to hit rolls I stand by my original statement.
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