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Geriatric Pirate posted:I'm really marveling here that QuarkJets managed to get like 6 left wing posters convinced that "fractional uncertainties" are a reason to avoid using detailed data I never said that; I said that the fractional uncertainties would be the same or worse. This is true. You said that the smaller sample would have smaller fractional uncertainties. This is wrong.
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geriatric pirate is only mad about this because he feels he was denied a chance to thrive by living in a welfare state which ensured that he would never have to make any of the hard decisions that the american poor have to face daily this makes him jealous and insecure, so he lashes out
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Jun 22, 2015 23:05
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Effectronica posted:Yes, and the conclusion in the paper is that the owners pay for 93% of it. *Sigh*. No, think again, the paper concluded (with some uncertainty) 100% pass through. I.E owners paid for none of it. EDIT: remember all those times myself and a few others said "don't compare those numbers". This is why. asdf32 fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jun 22, 2015 |
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Jun 22, 2015 23:06
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Effectronica posted:Yes, and the conclusion in the paper is that the owners pay for 93% of it. Seems quite at odds with the actual conclusion of the paper, and more in line with "Effectronica is confused because he doesn't understand that percentage increases in prices and wages are not directly comparable" Zeitgueist posted:Could you point me at some jobs in whatever US city you live in? Thx
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Jun 22, 2015 23:07
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Maybe instead of posting here 40 times per day complaining about how poor you are, you could, you know, get a job? I'm guessing most people don't do that, which is why, like the BLS says, working full time and being poor is quite an achievement. Just wanted to wade into this to say you're dumb as gently caress. People who can't get jobs don't get ones that allow them to post on the Internet, like I do.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:07
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I made four hundred and fifty dollars this week in tips. I immediately turned around and put 270 of that into my car because it needed new brakes and rotors. I have another hundred and something coming in tomorrow on my check (check was weird this pay period because of employment shenanigans) but I still have rent and utilities to pay in a week and I'm two months behind on my car insurance and I have a phone bill to pay But I'm doing just fine. Right.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:08
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Still don't know why I bother because you make up poo poo 
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Jun 22, 2015 23:08
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Radbot posted:Just wanted to wade into this to say you're dumb as gently caress. People who can't get jobs don't get ones that allow them to post on the Internet, like I do. Poster "Literally the Worst" has 40000 posts on these forums and also wants the government to give him more money. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 22, 2015 23:09
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Poster "Literally the Worst" has 40000 posts on these forums and also wants the government to give him more money. I don't know what you're talking about, just wanted to throw it out there since you don't understand literally anything about working in America. I post much, much, much more now that I have a better job.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:10
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Poster "Literally the Worst" has 40000 posts on these forums and also wants the government to give him more money. Poster Geriatric Pirate lives in a Scandinavian social democracy with decent health care, welfare and other things and also thinks he understands what its like to be poor in America.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:11
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Here's some back of the envelope, Effectronica style math: Literally the Worst has 41000 posts on these forums. Assume 5 minutes of browsing per post. Then assume that instead of posting, he made $10 per hour. If he had worked instead of posting, he'd literally have $34,000 more.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:11
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Radbot posted:I don't know what you're talking about, just wanted to throw it out there since you don't understand literally anything about working in America. I post much, much, much more now that I have a better job. There are no working poor in Swamp Sweden so therefor working poor don't exist at all!
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Jun 22, 2015 23:12
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asdf32 posted:*Sigh*. The paper concludes 100% pass-through in the formal conclusion. The data provided, however, shows that the increases in prices are much less than the increases in costs. Therefore, the costs must somehow disappear. But that doesn't change that only 7% of the actual increase in wages is transmitted as price increases. Which is minor, and likely to be weighted towards premium items and services.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:12
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Seems quite at odds with the actual conclusion of the paper, and more in line with "Effectronica is confused because he doesn't understand that percentage increases in prices and wages are not directly comparable" Again I am literally working 45-50 hours a week on a regular basis and something as simple as regular preventative maintenance on my car is throwing my finances off. I'm also not buying things just for shits and gigs.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:12
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Literally The Worst posted:Again I am literally working 45-50 hours a week on a regular basis and something as simple as regular preventative maintenance on my car is throwing my finances off. I'm also not buying things just for shits and gigs. I'm sorry you post on the internet, clearly you don't exist!
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Jun 22, 2015 23:13
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Here's some back of the envelope, Effectronica style math: Imagine 10,000 bullets, all fired into Geriatric Pirate. The benefits are literally infinite.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:13
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Poster "Literally the Worst" has 40000 posts on these forums and also wants the government to give him more money. No, I want my job to give me more money. You know, the one you keep insinuating I don't have.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:13
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Here's some back of the envelope, Effectronica style math: Over the course of eight years during which time I was going to school (high school and college) at various points for a grand total of an extra 2.5k a year. Wow. Wow. If only I hadn't wanted pesky things like days off, or had a job where I made ten bucks an hour.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:14
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Assume 5 minutes of browsing per post. like i said i appreciate that you post so often as every post discloses that you have some sort of chronic dissociative fugue which prevents you from being able to comprehend the world around you
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Jun 22, 2015 23:18
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americans are the most productive workers in the world. it may take you five minutes to craft a bad post according to strict labor regulations and international post agreements, but i can easily leverage my superior american intellect and posting skills to crank out stunnning burns with extremely rapid turnaround
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Jun 22, 2015 23:20
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Popular Thug Drink posted:like i said i appreciate that you post so often as every post discloses that you have some sort of chronic dissociative fugue which prevents you from being able to comprehend the world around you This malady also afflicts asdf32, sadly 
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Jun 22, 2015 23:22
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It's like a train wreck in slow motion, only the conductor is busy denying not only that it's a train wreck but that trains even exist. Please post forever Geriatric Pirate.  Literally The Worst posted:Again I am literally working 45-50 hours a week on a regular basis and something as simple as regular preventative maintenance on my car is throwing my finances off. I'm also not buying things just for shits and gigs. Yeah but think how much money you could make if you didn't spend so much time making GBS threads. Or sleeping. Or talking to relatives. Or eating. Or reading books, watching TV, cooking, listening to music, browsing the internet... you'd be Mo_Steel fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jun 22, 2015 |
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Jun 22, 2015 23:23
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Poster "Literally the Worst" has 40000 posts on these forums and also wants the government to give him more money. This is especially hilarious considering your contribution to society has almost certainly been to do nothing but suck up as much government resources as your hypocritical rear end can.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:26
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Who What Now posted:This is especially hilarious considering your contribution to society has almost certainly been to do nothing but suck up as much government resources as your hypocritical rear end can. Now now, he probably also votes for a Finnish right wing party that wants to cut off those resources from as many people as possible too.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:27
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Literally The Worst posted:Over the course of eight years during which time I was going to school (high school and college) at various points for a grand total of an extra 2.5k a year. Wow. Wow. If only I hadn't wanted pesky things like days off, or had a job where I made ten bucks an hour. 34/8 = 4.25, but I guess expecting someone who is running out of money for rent and car payments to work a few extra days is just asking way too much, all that for a measly 4.25k per year. I mean it's much easier to complain about how greedy your employer is and demand a law to make him pay you more (he'll probably fire you instead, but that'll be a fun surprise for you if the minimum wage ever increases!)
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Jun 22, 2015 23:29
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Geriatric Pirate posted:34/8 = 4.25, but I guess expecting someone who is running out of money for rent and car payments to work a few extra days is just asking way too much, all that for a measly 4.25k per year. I mean it's much easier to complain about how greedy your employer is and demand a law to make him pay you more (he'll probably fire you instead, but that'll be a fun surprise for you if the minimum wage ever increases!)  So do taxes not exist in your world??
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Jun 22, 2015 23:30
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Raskolnikov38 posted:
Sorry, didnt realize people making under 20k in America paid 40% taxes.
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"if the minimum wage increases, thousands of businesses will fire all their workers and close their doors" -a man who has to remind himself to breathe
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Jun 22, 2015 23:33
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Sorry, didnt realize people making under 20k in America paid 40% taxes. oh so NOW you start clarifying the things you don't realize about poor people in america that train has sailed, brother
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Jun 22, 2015 23:34
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Sorry, didnt realize people making under 20k in America paid 40% taxes. state taxes and social security deductions???? What are these???? - a swamp swede who knows how America works
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Jun 22, 2015 23:36
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Geriatric Pirate posted:34/8 = 4.25, but I guess expecting someone who is running out of money for rent and car payments to work a few extra days is just asking way too much, all that for a measly 4.25k per year. I mean it's much easier to complain about how greedy your employer is and demand a law to make him pay you more (he'll probably fire you instead, but that'll be a fun surprise for you if the minimum wage ever increases!) "A few extra days" meaning seven days a week, since I'm already working five days a week, often for longer than eight hours at a stretch, and then paying taxes on that money Also I literally make less than minimum wage most of the time and survive on tips so Also oh boy you got me I made a typo on my phone, my argument (which as a reminder is that you, as someone who lives in a country with a functioning welfare state, have no loving business telling people in america that they don't have it that bad) is a shambles whatever shall I do
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Jun 22, 2015 23:38
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if you can afford luxuries like days off then you're not really poor *waves a sheaf of official government numbers*
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Also I'm still making more than I was working 40/wk at 10/hr because a good chunk of my money comes to me tax free and I'm still barely getting by But shame on loving me, for daring to not want to work seven days a week.
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Fun fact about tips in America: Never tip your server/driver/bartender/whatever on your credit card receipt unless you're too drunk to recognize denominations on your paper money. We get taxed on tips that go on your card, because they go into the system when you get charged for it. Always tip cash, 100% of that will go in your server's pocket
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Jun 22, 2015 23:41
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Raskolnikov38 posted:state taxes and social security deductions???? What are these???? - a swamp swede who knows how America works Literally The Worst posted:"A few extra days" meaning seven days a week, since I'm already working five days a week, often for longer than eight hours at a stretch, and then paying taxes on that money The typo isn't a big deal, though it did bring out another poverty expert (raskolnikov38) who thinks that poor people are paying 42% tax rates.
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Geriatric Pirate posted:poor people in america literally pay 42% tax and are literally starving on the street - an american who really knows what its like to be poor and thinks MMT is mainstream economics Still waiting for those MMT papers that state what you think MMT is (hint it isn't).
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Jun 22, 2015 23:47
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Fun tip about america, pay your loving taxes you leech.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:48
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I make $15 an hour and about 30% percent of each paycheck goes to taxes and deductions so I'm not seeing where assuming LTW's typo was a little bad math with taking taxes into account is blowing your mind. oh wait I see it now, you don't understand math or language.
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Literally The Worst posted:Fun fact about tips in America: Never tip your server/driver/bartender/whatever on your credit card receipt unless you're too drunk to recognize denominations on your paper money. We get taxed on tips that go on your card, because they go into the system when you get charged for it. Always tip cash, 100% of that will go in your server's pocket Higher taxes are good, unless I'm paying them Raskolnikov38 posted:Still waiting for those MMT papers that state what you think MMT is (hint it isn't). I wasnt the person who said the infinity debt stuff, I just said it's fringe heterodox stuff and think it's funny that you pretend it isn't
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Geriatric Pirate posted:I wasnt the person who said the infinity debt stuff, I just said it's fringe heterodox stuff and think it's funny that you pretend it isn't Oh whoops i mixed up the idiots that don't understand algebra or what a null hypothesis means in this thread, please forgive me.
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