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Criminal Minded
Jan 4, 2005

Spring break forever
Aside from the entirety of Titanic, I'll always hear this when I think of Horner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czwr9T_bPPo

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Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Not a fan of his quiet stuff, I think Horner's true calling is Panic Attack Music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbtvQUYXbQk

Even with a poo poo budget and tiny orchestra, I think his Star Trek II soundtrack was the best work he ever did.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
FUUUUCK. Horner was my favorite film composer aside from Williams. I even enjoyed his score from Troy! I really enjoyed some of the specific motifs he share between compositions even if it may have been because he was kind of lazy. His Avatar score was 1/3 Titanic and 1/3 Troy and 1/3 tribal singing but by god I still loved it.

Dammit

CelestialScribe
Jan 16, 2008
I always thought Apollo 13 had a great score. That was my favorite of his.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
The insane brass and steel drums of Commando, man. I love the poo poo out of that.

Terrible, terrible news.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
R.I.P James Horner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psbY8KaqUX4

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

I know you guys mentioned The Last of the Mohicans, because that OST is boss as gently caress, but James Horner didn't score that one. Still though, I'm pretty bummed out. I liked what he did on Avatar, even if he managed to use one of his repetitive themes in it.

RIP dude.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Xenomrph posted:

Instead of posting the usual Aliens soundtrack stuff you'd expect from me at a time like this, I'll just post this track from 'A Beautiful Mind' that I've always been a big fan of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDEx6tolC6w

Well, as is typical with Horner, if you loved that, you'll love this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I0pf-t08Jw

Horner might have been film scoring's biggest plagiarist ever, but I still am sad to see him go. His early stuff that he re-used over and over again was instrumental in the films they were used in.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


My favorite Horner score is probably The Land Before Time.

John Williams is getting old too, dang.

How is Danny Elfman doing these days? :ohdear:

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
The elevator theme in Aliens owns bones. RIP James Horner.

ComposerGuy
Jul 28, 2007

Conspicuous Absinthe
I expected Williams to be next. He is a generation ahead of everyone else working. He's in his 80s. Horner was only 61.

ComposerGuy
Jul 28, 2007

Conspicuous Absinthe

Darko posted:

Well, as is typical with Horner, if you loved that, you'll love this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I0pf-t08Jw

Horner might have been film scoring's biggest plagiarist ever, but I still am sad to see him go. His early stuff that he re-used over and over again was instrumental in the films they were used in.

Horner post-Titanic (really post-95) is where he really became the reuser that he is known as now. But he had a magical decade (mid-80s to mid-90s) of extremely good and important work.

Compared to most, that's more than enough.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

The elevator theme in Aliens owns bones. RIP James Horner.

The entire Aliens score owns. Futile Escape is probably my favorite track from it though.

teagone fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jun 23, 2015

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

ComposerGuy posted:

Horner post-Titanic (really post-95) is where he really became the reuser that he is known as now.

Didn't Star Trek II lift liberally from Battle Beyond the Stars, though? And of course so much of Aliens is note-for-note from Star Trek III.

Edit: Jesus, I had forgotten how much he lifted from BBtS for Trek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mSgqMOKJho

Timby fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Jun 23, 2015

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

ComposerGuy posted:

Horner post-Titanic (really post-95) is where he really became the reuser that he is known as now. But he had a magical decade (mid-80s to mid-90s) of extremely good and important work.

Compared to most, that's more than enough.

He was always a re-user, he just got terrible with it in the late 90s/2000s. For example, Aliens is a mix of Wolfen and Star Trek 2 (to be fair, Cameron rushed him on that).

My favorite of his is probably Legends of the Fall. He has some great ones in there (and his greats are often revisions of prior stuff, but that doesn't make them sound any less good) and he'll definitely be missed.

Darko fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jun 23, 2015

ComposerGuy
Jul 28, 2007

Conspicuous Absinthe
His work for Bluth is his best stuff to me.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Timby posted:

Didn't Star Trek II lift liberally from Battle Beyond the Stars, though? And of course so much of Aliens is note-for-note from Star Trek III.

Edit: Jesus, I had forgotten how much he lifted from BBtS for Trek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mSgqMOKJho

Thank god he did because no one should have to endure that trash movie just to hear that wonderful score.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Darko posted:

He was always a re-user, he just got terrible with it in the late 90s/2000s. For example, Aliens is a mix of Wolfen and Star Trek 2 (to be fair, Cameron rushed him on that).

My favorite of his is probably Legends of the Fall. He has some great ones in there (and his greats are often revisions of prior stuff, but that doesn't make them sound any less good) and he'll definitely be missed.
The track from the end of Die Hard when Reginald saves McClane by shooting the last terrorist is an unused alternate track from 'Aliens', too. It was supposed to play when Ripley drops the Queen out the airlock and is climbing back up and closing the airlock, but Horner instead reused parts of Bishop's Countdown for that sequence. James Cameron felt the music as originally scored was too heroic and not nail-bitingly tense enough (and he was right).

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


James Horner made the same score over and over again, but it was a good score by god. Star Trek II and Aliens and who knows what else are practically the same score and they're amazing, part of my childhood.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
So, I was watching Man in the Iron Mask recently and couldn't help but notice how amazing the score by Nick Glennie-Smith is. I think this is my favorite piece from it :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9EdPe510uo

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Skoll posted:

So, I was watching Man in the Iron Mask recently and couldn't help but notice how amazing the score by Nick Glennie-Smith is. I think this is my favorite piece from it :

Nick Glennie-Smith did some really amazing stuff in the '90s. He was responsible for a lot of The Rock, Man in the Iron Mask was really great, he actually did some great work on Highlander Endgame of all things, and I've always been a fan of his work for We Were Soldiers.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Timby posted:

Nick Glennie-Smith did some really amazing stuff in the '90s. He was responsible for a lot of The Rock, Man in the Iron Mask was really great, he actually did some great work on Highlander Endgame of all things, and I've always been a fan of his work for We Were Soldiers.

Speaking of amazing scores from bad movies, I've always been amazed at how good Steve Jablonsky's work on the Transformers films were. I'll have to go through and re-watch We Were Soldiers now though because I haven't seen it in awhile and don't remember the score sticking out.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Jablonski's themes for the Transformers movies were all fantastic. I don't think I like ANY of his other stuff, though.

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

Darko posted:

Jablonski's themes for the Transformers movies were all fantastic. I don't think I like ANY of his other stuff, though.

The Pain & Gain score had a lot of character- Bay seems to elevate him somehow.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

Jablonsky's stuff is the same to me as Trevor Rabin's in that they do scores that are functional but completely soulless. There are a few decent themes here and there but pretty much all the Michael Bay movie scores were ruined for me by Harry Gregson-Williams' score for Team America which completely nails the music in Bay movies.

But on the topic of good music in bad movies, I stumbled upon Alan Silvestri's score for Judge Dredd, the 1995 Sylvester Stallone.. thing, and I'd forgotten how much I like it. The main theme is really awesome and I've had it stuck in my head for days now. And apparently Intrada just released a 2 CD remaster of it which even includes the theme Jerry Goldsmith wrote for the trailer.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
Alan Silvestri has done a LOT of good work. I actually have his Judge Dredd score as well.

He does a lot of action movie scores, including both Predator movies, Delta Force, Captain America, The Avengers, etc. He's also no stranger to bad movies. He did Super Mario Brothers.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
I made a last.fm group if any of you are :spergin: enough to have one.

http://www.last.fm/group/Goon+Film+Scores

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

James Horner made the same score over and over again, but it was a good score by god. Star Trek II and Aliens and who knows what else are practically the same score and they're amazing, part of my childhood.
Krull is the Horner-est early Horner score. I watched the film again a while back, and it was like his greatest hits cranked up to 11.

A Pale Horse
Jul 29, 2007

So I was listening to the London Philharmonic episode of Kermode and Mayo's Film Review Podcast and it made me think of two of my favorite pieces of film music ever. I won't make the case that they're the best or anything and they're not the most iconic but there's something about them that gives me shivers every time I listen to them.

The first is Paul Buckmaster's theme from 12 Monkeys which is absolutely mental and conveys the paranoia and schizophrenia of the movie extremely well. I was quite distressed to learn he hasn't done any movie scores since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNOzVkvRU1w

The second is probably my favorite piece of movie music ever from my favorite film ever. This theme can still give me goosebumps despite watching the movie at least once a year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4NCC0dUXks

I'm not very knowledgeable about movie music as I've never really listened to instrumental or orchestral music, but as I'm currently studying for my medical board licensing exam and sometimes find pop music too distracting I was hoping some of you folks could point me in the right direction for some instumental or orchestral music that could do the job. Just no Hans Zimmer please. :) I like weird and/or melodramatic music if that helps.

The Time Dissolver
Nov 7, 2012

Are you a good person?

A Pale Horse posted:

So I was listening to the London Philharmonic episode of Kermode and Mayo's Film Review Podcast and it made me think of two of my favorite pieces of film music ever. I won't make the case that they're the best or anything and they're not the most iconic but there's something about them that gives me shivers every time I listen to them.

The first is Paul Buckmaster's theme from 12 Monkeys which is absolutely mental and conveys the paranoia and schizophrenia of the movie extremely well. I was quite distressed to learn he hasn't done any movie scores since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNOzVkvRU1w


Buckmaster may have arranged it but that's an Astor Piazzolla piece.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



I've been listening to Max Richter's "The Leftovers" soundtrack today.

It's quiet, but quite good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAodLtVPLT8&list=PLDuLJKLkYkG_dcIan6jYmmanY9kTIwhJl

The first track is pretty different from the rest of the album. The second track is probably the most commonly played song from the previews.

Sith Happens
Jun 7, 2005

You will find that it is you
who are mistaken.

About a great many things.
Seeing this thread again reminded me that I've enjoyed Christophe Beck's score from Ant-Man. The main theme is catchy, memorable, and hummable, and it's used enough throughout the score/movie that you have a chance to subconsciously get familiar with it.

Every single person I saw the movie with walked out with that tune stuck in their head. For a composer, I'd think that meant "mission accomplished"... and yet it's not something that many film composers accomplish much anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_5NwVy8L5M

true.spoon
Jun 7, 2012
I recently stumbled over this track from 2000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZnP1eAkcU
Part of it reminded me strongly of a very popular movie theme that came out a bit later. In fact so much so that I find this melody really irritating because it doesn't continue in the expected way (I wont say to which theme I think it's similar to not influence anyone).
Now my question is, do you hear it as well or am I going nuts?
And if you hear it too, is this just in the realm of coincidence or would you think one melody inspired the other?

Just out of curiosity.

Bread Enthusiast
Oct 26, 2010

Well, I hear two songs:

Oh Danny Boy, the pipes are smoked by hobbits.

But yeah, that can be annoying.

Droopy Goines
Aug 2, 2003

Presented in DTS ES 6.1 where available.

true.spoon posted:

I recently stumbled over this track from 2000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZnP1eAkcU
Part of it reminded me strongly of a very popular movie theme that came out a bit later. In fact so much so that I find this melody really irritating because it doesn't continue in the expected way (I wont say to which theme I think it's similar to not influence anyone).
Now my question is, do you hear it as well or am I going nuts?
And if you hear it too, is this just in the realm of coincidence or would you think one melody inspired the other?

Just out of curiosity.

I'm guessing it's this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEyCX9ExkFg

It's most likely just a coincidence.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

Yeah, this is exactly what I was expecting to hear listening to that.

true.spoon
Jun 7, 2012
At least I am not crazy. I would also think that it is a coincidence because it's just a couple of notes and what are the chances that Howard Shore would listen to some random anime soundtrack?
On the other hand the timing is pretty close and Yoko Kanno is a pretty respectable composer in her own right.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Wow I feel bad for not knowing who James Horner was considering he scored four movies that really marked my childhood: Jumanji, Land Before Time, Balto and Casper.

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

So I watched The Thin Red Line all the way through for the first time yesterday and one of Zimmer's pieces in it kept bugging me because it sounded so familiar. I thought maybe I'd heard it in a trailer or something but it turns out it reminded me of a track from a completely different movie by a different composer. Going by the comments I'm not alone there.

For comparison:

"Journey to the Line" by Hans Zimmer, from The Thin Red Line (1998)
"Unravelling" by Harry Escott, from Shame (2011)

Could be a coincidence but that's pretty drat close.

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VaultAggie
Nov 18, 2010

Best out of 71?
I rewatched candy man last night and god drat, that score is just fantastic. It's just so creepy and really compliments the candyman.

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