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ohsosad posted:It did however run aground and get wrecked having achieved nothing of value which is highly symbolic of low level DD combat.
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cheese posted:Low level destroyer combat is hilarious, especially when you get destroyer brawls at point blank range. Its like taking a bunch of ADHD 8 year olds, getting them drunk, putting them in go karts and giving them bazookas. so whats the problem again?
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Jun 22, 2015 23:04
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My best game so far.  Got a hail mary torp fired into smoke for devastating strike. Then took out a cruiser with an old fashioned slugging match. There the dude stuck to HE while I HE'ed him up a bit then switched to AP. Have to remember to do that more often. And the last kill when I found a carrier and smoked him. Love how fast those go down. Was a nail biter as they had more capture points for most of the match but we chewed them up just quick enough. Think I'm hooked now.
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Jun 22, 2015 23:10
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tater_salad posted:so whats the problem again? It's the higher tiers where there's problems. Torpedo reload times increase, visibility increases, firepower directed at DDs increases faster than their ability to take hits and people learn to deal with long-range torpedo attacks.
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Magni posted:It's the higher tiers where there's problems. Torpedo reload times increase, visibility increases, firepower directed at DDs increases faster than their ability to take hits and people learn to deal with long-range torpedo attacks. This new cruiser skill that sees through smoke screens sounds like a riot
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Jun 22, 2015 23:27
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Magni posted:It's the higher tiers where there's problems. Torpedo reload times increase, visibility increases, firepower directed at DDs increases faster than their ability to take hits and people learn to deal with long-range torpedo attacks. NTRabbit posted:This new cruiser skill that sees through smoke screens sounds like a riot
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Jun 22, 2015 23:57
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Aesis posted:How does it work? As long as it only sees stuff inside smoke within certain radius it should be fine imo. Nothing frustrating like not spotting DDs inside 1 km just because of smoke tbh. Sounds like it's just a spotting radius around the ship within which smoke is negated, but since Wargaming hosed up the account transfers I wasn't able to login to test and find out
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Jun 23, 2015 00:24
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Aesis posted:Torps hit harder, visibility is like 5~6 km with module/skill, DDs have maneuverability/smoke to dodge shells (in fact less firepower directed if you remove Cleveland/Atlanta/Des Moines) and dumb pubbies still get hit by long range torp attacks. Torps do not hit much of any harder in relation to how much cruiser and BB hitpoint pools grow. Visibility remains worse even with the module (which, mind you, is only avaiable from T8 on) and skill (which is a mere what, 14 points into the tree if you skip either upgrade smoke or situational awareness - and is just as avaiable for low-tier DDs anyway). Maneuverability on later DDs is no better than at the lower tiers and frequently somewhat worse as they're bigger. Removing the Cleveland, Atlanta and Des Moines does not reflect actual in-game reality and doesn't remove the increased firepower DDs receive from all the high-accurracy, high-velocity 8in guns everywhere or the increasingly longer-ranged and more lethal secondary batteries. *Dumb enough* pubbies meanwhile grow increasingly rarer as you go up and many of the faster or more maneuverable BBs are quite capable of turning into the spread on time even if you catch them going a straight line for a minute or more.
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Jun 23, 2015 00:48
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Aesis posted:Torps hit harder They don't, the listed damage goes up but the things you're shooting have more health and your torpedoes do a smaller fraction of their listed damage. Relative to the health pools of their targets torpedoes are probably strongest around tier 4. If you shoot a few different ships with the same torpedoes you'll notice that higher tier ships consistently take less damage.
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Jun 23, 2015 00:59
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They just need to improve the tier 6 to 8 torpedos to make the ramp up more gradual. Right now its like roughly the same torpedo very tier until you get the own zone torpedos at tier 9 and 10. At which point you can deny half the map and ambush slaughter people at will.
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Jun 23, 2015 01:25
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are they still giving out beta keys or do i have to buy into this
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turinator posted:are they still giving out beta keys or do i have to buy into this Open Beta is just around the corner, but I guess you can buy in if you want to try and get a decidedly mediocre battleship.
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Jun 23, 2015 02:00
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So it seems I hobbled myself when I decided to use a custom crosshair over the stock, since every single "I'm good at boats" Youtube video seems to demonstrate that the stock crosshair can be better used to bracket shots.
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Jun 23, 2015 02:12
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This game is pretty fun to play, but I could use some newbie tips. Maybe I should head over to the official forums for some help:     drat. I only wanted to learn how to lead shots. 
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Jun 23, 2015 03:42
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Jun 23, 2015 03:46
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I've had good success pretending to actually be an escort in a destroyer. Basically I'm sticking to a chunk of ships, staying ahead of them to scout out targets and fog plus some AA defense... with a few potshots here and there.
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Jun 23, 2015 03:59
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tater_salad posted:Um maybe I dont want to play anymore  Oh Tater-san! That's no way to talk in the presence of Onee-Sama!
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Jun 23, 2015 04:02
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I kind of wish they'd make an accurate to the war Kantai Collection anime. Seeing those people's reaction to a spiritual successor to Hostel or something like that would be priceless.
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Jun 23, 2015 04:06
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Wasn't that boat mostly known for being the first one in history to get smoked by an ASM?
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Jun 23, 2015 04:11
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Honestly, if you tried to avoid every game where pubbies are awful and/or watch anime you should just stop playing video games. I'll never understand the goons that venture into the official forums of any game and come back shocked, shocked!, that there are anime-loving manchildren in there.
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Jun 23, 2015 04:14
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I really should have known better. I don't know what I was thinking.
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Jun 23, 2015 04:16
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It has died down now, but back when the closed beta started in March, every match started with a chorus of "Poi!" that devolved into a ten minute argument about anime. Those Fog people are really awful, in game and on the forum. I always go out of my way to sink them, even if they are "friendly."
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ArchangeI posted:Honestly, if you tried to avoid every game where pubbies are awful and/or watch anime you should just stop playing video games.
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Five games in a row the only thing to hit me has been a torpedo. Planes, ships... doesn't matter. I seem to be the only target.
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My search for decent newbie tips on the official forums was a complete disaster. I went looking for tips, and I got battleship animae waifus. So instead, here are some of the things I learned over the last few days of playing this game. I hope these things are helpful:
Guns take a while to swing around to where you're pointing at. When those tiny orange circles finally light up green, that means your gun is pointing where you told it to point at. Fire away! (You'll still miss) Tap the shift key to zoom in. Use the mouse wheel to zoom in even more. Tap the shift key once again to zoom back to your ship and avoid that island you're about to run into. Ships often have guns on either side. Sometimes it's worth it to fire one side, then turn around and fire the opposite side while the first reloads. If you want to look around without making your guns move all over the drat place, hold down the right mouse button. Don't visit the official forums. You get a asthmatic repair team. They are really good, and will repair Bad Things when you tell them to, but after that they get winded and need to lie down a bit. Unless you are near death, don't waste them with putting out a simple fire. If you do, they'll be off looking for their inhalers while your rudder-locked ship is stuck moving in circles. I'm not sure about higher tiers, but in the lower brackets destroyers are shitloads of fun. On the opposite end of the scale, aircraft carriers suck. They suck to play, and the players on your team also suck at them. Suck suck suck. Torpedos have a lead indicator. It's that grey cone thingy. If the enemy ship doesn't change its heading, it will cruise right into where the grey cone is pointing at. Speaking of torpedos, you can change the spread of your salvo. Tap the number key assigned to the torpedos to switch between wide and narrow. If you're going to go through a tight spot with some other pubbie destroyers, make certain you are not in front. 
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tater_salad posted:so whats the problem again? Evil_Greven posted:I've had good success pretending to actually be an escort in a destroyer. cheese fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Here's a newbie tip I wish I knew when I started: Ctrl-X will lock your guns to a relative bearing. It is great while waiting for battleship guns to reload. Lock guns in position and angle your ship while reloading then when you turn back to unmask your guns they are already in position. Boo to whoever was saying get rid of the Nicholas. This was one of my highest base exp games ever. Sunk a Phoenix, Myogi, and New York with torps and two Minekazes with guns. I guess I should feel guilty for picking on humble bundle newbies.   
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Did they give out a free Aurora for something? I have one and I definitely never bought it.
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weekend web this poo poo
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James Garfield posted:Did they give out a free Aurora for something? I have one and I definitely never bought it. I don't have one, sure you didn't drunk buy it?
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James Garfield posted:They don't, the listed damage goes up but the things you're shooting have more health and your torpedoes do a smaller fraction of their listed damage. Relative to the health pools of their targets torpedoes are probably strongest around tier 4. Armor also affects torpedoes. So a hit against something with weak armor will do more absolute damage than a hit with the same torpedo against a better armored ship.
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NTRabbit posted:I don't have one, sure you didn't drunk buy it? I haven't even bought gold. It showed up in my account after I entered the bundle code, but I hadn't logged in for a while before that so maybe they were separate. El Disco posted:Armor also affects torpedoes. So a hit against something with weak armor will do more absolute damage than a hit with the same torpedo against a better armored ship.
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James Garfield posted:If I remember right there's also dedicated anti torpedo armor on battleships at least, and it just continually improves as you go up on tier. You can see the anti-torpedo bulges on the mid tier ships like Kongo and Warspite, while the later battleships have dedicated anti-torpedo belt armour
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NTRabbit posted:You can see the anti-torpedo bulges on the mid tier ships like Kongo and Warspite, while the later battleships have dedicated anti-torpedo belt armour Belt and TDS are very different things. Basically the bulges are the same thing just scabbed on later and narrower. Torpedo defense is basically a big old crumple zone with some oil filled chambers to absorb shock. Adding armor actually makes it more likely the armor will tear off the more flexible hull and cause floods.
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James Garfield posted:I haven't even bought gold. It showed up in my account after I entered the bundle code, but I hadn't logged in for a while before that so maybe they were separate.  Its true, this is the shot from a game where an iowa and izumo turned the corner into my kitakami, took 18 torpedo hits to sink them both, high tier battleships are tough as poo poo against torps.
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xthetenth posted:Belt and TDS are very different things. Basically the bulges are the same thing just scabbed on later and narrower. Torpedo defense is basically a big old crumple zone with some oil filled chambers to absorb shock. Adding armor actually makes it more likely the armor will tear off the more flexible hull and cause floods. Yes, but they still called it the anti-torpedo belt armour, presumably so it rhymed with the real belt armour in the documentation, with the anti-torpedo belt and anti-torpedo bulges being late and early examples of TDS NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Insert name here posted:Official forums are great for finding posts about how BBs are underpowered and Wargaming should nerf torpedoes and CVs though. Never not funny. I keep seeing this being parroted in game. I had 3 games in a row yesterday with a guy who kept spouting off about how the game is awful and broken until they let BBs fire secondaries at torpedoes. Also I am terrible at this game and can't seem to improve.
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One thing I noticed and am still playing with is the new visibility skills/modules and camo. I think I can get a Baltimore down to about 11 km visibility without too many problems. Which is hilarious.
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Lonjon posted:
Holy poo poo, thanks! I was just guessing and rarely hit anything + 3km  e: just sunk 2 ships in a match with this new torpedo magic 
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