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pfizerman posted:I know this is not exactly what the Paul camp had in mind, but this man is exactly my experience of libertarians I meet/avoid eye contact with on the street. The only way my Schadenfreude will be interrupted is if one of these fuckers actually beats Hillary in the general (I love Bernie Sanders too, but he's not wining the primary).
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Skwirl posted:I know it's been a minute since this was posted, but I'm glad to see the knives come out on the republican side. Where have you been? The GOP is nothing but knives at this point. Boehner can't even count on his loving whip to vote with him, and people have been poo poo-talking Jeb Bush since he started his run. There's a massive faction war on now that the base is realizing they can elect true-believer candidates directly rather than having lip-service candidates chosen for them in back room deals. People complain the GOP is not willing to negotiate with Democrats, but there's nobody in the GOP who can speak for the GOP solidly enough to be able to negotiate. They can't even agree on policy positions among themselves, and even the factions have factions within them. ErIog fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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ErIog posted:Where have you been? The GOP is nothing but knives at this point. Boehner can't even count on his loving whip to vote with him, and people have been poo poo-talking Jeb Bush since he started his run. There's a massive faction war on now that the base is realizing they can elect true-believer candidates directly rather than having lip-service candidates chosen for them in back room deals. I would advise against counting the GOP's chickens just yet. Early polling is largely meaningless and the odds that the establishment hack gets the nomination are still good. Remember that the 2012 primary had like 5 different "frontrunners" polling wise before settling on Mitt.
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republicans have a lot of money and will use that money to win local elections and prevent democrats from doing things just like theyve been doing for a while until gerrymandering is addressed, the republicans can still pretty much deadlock and drag democrats down with them.
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ErIog posted:Where have you been? The GOP is nothing but knives at this point. Boehner can't even count on his loving whip to vote with him, and people have been poo poo-talking Jeb Bush since he started his run. There's a massive faction war on now that the base is realizing they can elect true-believer candidates directly rather than having lip-service candidates chosen for them in back room deals.
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:republicans have a lot of money and will use that money to win local elections and prevent democrats from doing things just like theyve been doing for a while Bad news; the Supreme Court is likely to strike down independent redistricting committees this week as unconstitutional, so gerrymandering will get worse, and the most effective tool for fighting it will probably get worse. Skwirl posted:Have any Republican candidates come out in favor of the Confederate flag flying in South Carolina? Several, like Rubio and Walker, gave milquetoast support to it, saying it's a state's right issue. It seems like after the manifesto came out those candidates that have responded have changed their position and support Haley's call for removal of the flag, including Walker. http://www.businessinsider.com/confederate-flag-removal-gop-candidates-stances-2015-6
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A Bag of Milk posted:Then give the former Republic of Texas territory + the Mexican Cession back to Mexico, Cascadia declares independence. We're on the something here. We could offer Florida back to Spain but I doubt they'd want it. Offer Florida as tribute to Neptune. Rick Scott is doing his part to help.
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Jagchosis posted:I would advise against counting the GOP's chickens just yet. Early polling is largely meaningless and the odds that the establishment hack gets the nomination are still good. Remember that the 2012 primary had like 5 different "frontrunners" polling wise before settling on Mitt. I wasn't saying the primary process would necessarily produce a wingnut candidate or that the GOP is done for. I was mostly talking about what has been going on with congressional elections. The GOP can change and stay together if the political conversation changes. The issues that dominate political conversation right now are ones that divide the GOP, but if there were other new issues the GOP could come together over in the future then the GOP could be a real national party again. Also, just because the result of the primary process can still be an "establishment" candidate doesn't mean that the factions had no say on the road to getting to that result. What position was Mitt in when he finished winning the primary? Would you say the primary process had a good impact on his general election campaign? This is true for the Dem side too. Bernie Sanders wouldn't be running if party factions had no impact on the general election candidate.
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Jagchosis posted:I would advise against counting the GOP's chickens just yet. Early polling is largely meaningless and the odds that the establishment hack gets the nomination are still good. Remember that the 2012 primary had like 5 different "frontrunners" polling wise before settling on Mitt. Yes, but Mitt had to wade through a veritable forest of knives to get it, and by the time he got out the other side he was already dying of a thousand right-wing position cuts.
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Speaking of ol Huckabeequote:"I keep hearing people saying we need more conversations about race. Actually we don’t need more conversations. What we need is conversions [to Jesus] because the reconciliations that changes people is not a racial reconciliation, it’s a spiritual reconciliation when people are reconciled to God. When I love God and I know that God created other people regardless of their color as much as he made me, I don’t have a problem with racism. It’s solved!" - Mike Huckabee, speaking on Fox News. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hTKnUc8WtI
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"As scripture says: 'Red and yellow, black and white. They are precious in his sight.' Jesus: 1, Racism: 0. Case closed."
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Jun 23, 2015 16:25
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Fundamental attribution error and cognitive dissonance combine to form the perfect republican candidate: Superhuck!
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Speaking of ol Huckabee Lol only whitey would say something that ignorant. Shutup Fuckabee
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That Huckabee facebook "AMA" got kinda weird.     
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:republicans have a lot of money and will use that money to win local elections and prevent democrats from doing things just like theyve been doing for a while I'm not saying that's not their strategy, but it doesn't help that Democrats seemingly ignore local and even state level races.
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Jun 23, 2015 16:37
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New Suffolk NH poll shows a YOOOGE surge for one classy candidate.
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Jun 23, 2015 16:44
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When I worked on the NH/Mass border, all my NH coworkers would talk about how Trump was their candidate. When I asked why, their answers were mainly "he's just the right guy." I'd ask how and I'd never get a response. I have no idea why people love him.
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Jun 23, 2015 16:47
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I wouldn't be surprised if Trump offered $25 to everybody that votes for him.
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Logikv9 posted:I wouldn't be surprised if Trump offered $25 to everybody that votes for him. More like $25 in chips to a bankrupt casino
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Jun 23, 2015 16:52
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Logikv9 posted:I wouldn't be surprised if Trump offered $25 to everybody that votes for him. Vs the $50 to go to the presser
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Jun 23, 2015 16:54
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There are an astonishing number of people who actually think Trump is an astute businessman and this somehow qualifies him to be president.
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Anorexic Sea Turtle posted:When I worked on the NH/Mass border, all my NH coworkers would talk about how Trump was their candidate. When I asked why, their answers were mainly "he's just the right guy." I'd ask how and I'd never get a response. I have no idea why people love him. It's that classy business acumen that you know is there because it's surrounded by marble and gold.
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Clinton looking in pretty good shape.NBC/WSJ poll posted:What's more, 92 percent of Democratic voters say they could see themselves supporting Clinton for the Democratic nomination, which is up six points since March. Just eight percent can't see themselves backing her in the current poll, which was conducted right after Clinton formally kicked off her presidential campaign with a rally in New York City. (By contrast, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush's score among Republicans is 75-22 percent and Sen. Marco Rubio's, R-Fla., is 74-15 percent.)
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Logikv9 posted:I wouldn't be surprised if Trump offered $25 to everybody that votes for him. Obviously this would be absurd but for fun I did some absurd math to go with this rate. Assuming Trump gave a poo poo about the popular election (and every american voted) in order to get roughly half of the country Trump would need to spend 3,750,000,000$
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ErIog posted:Where have you been? The GOP is nothing but knives at this point. Boehner can't even count on his loving whip to vote with him, and people have been poo poo-talking Jeb Bush since he started his run. There's a massive faction war on now that the base is realizing they can elect true-believer candidates directly rather than having lip-service candidates chosen for them in back room deals. The issue though is that even though they're bickering and fighting among themselves whatever candidate comes out ahead (eventually one of them will) is going to get all the R votes by default. Doesn't matter how much the Tea Party screeches about getting given a RINO they're going to vote for him anyway because we need to prevent that old witch from getting into office at all costs.
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Anorexic Sea Turtle posted:When I worked on the NH/Mass border, all my NH coworkers would talk about how Trump was their candidate. When I asked why, their answers were mainly "he's just the right guy." I'd ask how and I'd never get a response. I have no idea why people love him. It's like The Secret: he's rich, so he knows how to get rich, and when he becomes President, America's going to become rich!!!
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If there is a God with a sense of humor, we will get one poll with Trump as the leader.
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Anorexic Sea Turtle posted:When I worked on the NH/Mass border, all my NH coworkers would talk about how Trump was their candidate. When I asked why, their answers were mainly "he's just the right guy." I'd ask how and I'd never get a response. I have no idea why people love him. Well, you've seen the type of people who live and work on the NH/Mass border, right? Wait, I bet they're generally from Massachusetts but moved to NH for some reason. There's a reason they're called Massholes.
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I don't know where Preibus is at this particular moment, but one or two more of these and he's going to be drunk every day by noon.
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reignofevil posted:Obviously this would be absurd but for fun I did some absurd math to go with this rate. Assuming Trump gave a poo poo about the popular election (and every american voted) in order to get roughly half of the country Trump would need to spend 3,750,000,000$
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lookoutbelow posted:Well, you've seen the type of people who live and work on the NH/Mass border, right? Wait, I bet they're generally from Massachusetts but moved to NH for some reason.
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Skwirl posted:You can cut that in two, since about half the country doesn't vote,. The smart money would be only paying 51% of the people who vote in enough states to win the electoral college, which is likely even smaller. So to continue to be incredibly hefty with our estimates I will peg the vote at a conservative 2 Billion or less. Assuming 25 dollars is a sufficient motivator for the average person. Yay math 
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reignofevil posted:So to continue to be incredibly hefty with our estimates I will peg the vote at a conservative 2 Billion or less. Assuming 25 dollars is a sufficient motivator for the average person. By an amazing coincidence, that's actually about as much money was spent all together in 2012 by candidates and PACs if I remember correctly.
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neonnoodle posted:When a person from MA reaches a certain threshold of insanity, the state constitution requires them to move north of the border and get a satellite dish, above-ground swimming pool, and ATV to go with their AR-15s and fireworks. I wish we could send them all back.
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neonnoodle posted:When a person from MA reaches a certain threshold of insanity, the state constitution requires them to move north of the border and get a satellite dish, above-ground swimming pool, and ATV to go with their AR-15s and fireworks. you're not making this sound bad at all though
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reignofevil posted:So to continue to be incredibly hefty with our estimates I will peg the vote at a conservative 2 Billion or less. Assuming 25 dollars is a sufficient motivator for the average person. It's illegal to show proof of who you voted for in order to get compensation, and illegal to demand that proof. I'd gladly lie about voting for Trump to sucker $25 out of him.
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reignofevil posted:So to continue to be incredibly hefty with our estimates I will peg the vote at a conservative 2 Billion or less. Assuming 25 dollars is a sufficient motivator for the average person. A clever consortium that got their guy into office could make that 2 billion back in a week. 'Oh were not going to pursue x any more but do y instead'. 'I've instructed agency a not to enforce b any more.'
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Cross post: Trump and Rand have both called for the Confederate flag to be retired.
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Someone crunched the demographic numbers for a bunch of key states in 2016, and here's what they got. The de-whitening of America continues, and almost entirely to the benefit of the Democratic party.
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