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Phlegmish posted:I can't imagine playing any game on a console. I've never owned a console. I barely understand consoles as a concept. Expand your mind, dude. 
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zooted heh posted:but will the game have tommy guns? yeah sure why not
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MAKE WAY NEW STARS posted:Dialogue wheels are bad because sometimes I just want to say "no thanks" but the dialogue wheel says "NO AND ALSO gently caress YOU YOU'RE A PIECE OF poo poo" What the wheel said: "This interview is over." What I expected: "This interview is over." *walks away.* What I got: *right hook*
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Jun 23, 2015 18:09
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*goes to a bar in Diamond City to get the feel of the place* *sit down next to a fellow wastelander, hoping to buy him a drink and he tells me about the place* [GLASS HIM]
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Jun 23, 2015 18:14
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> Yes "No." gently caress.
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Jun 23, 2015 18:16
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All melee will actually be wrestling moves taught to you by a ghoulified John Cena.
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Jun 23, 2015 18:20
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Lotish posted:What the wheel said: "This interview is over." Yeah actually if you say 'this interview is over' you walk away, if you say 'time to shut you up' you punch her. Also the paragon is always the top option, the renegade is the bottom option. If you pick 'time to shut you up' and were surprised when he hit her then idk. And in ME2 you punch her only if you click when the renegade thing pops up. Seems fine to me.
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Jun 23, 2015 18:20
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Lotish posted:What the wheel said: "This interview is over." You say that as if it's a bad thing
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Jun 23, 2015 18:21
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the entire "dialogue option results in completely unexpected result" thing is uncommon in practice but people apparently like the meme so it doesn't matter i guess
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Jun 23, 2015 18:22
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- - >gently caress YOU YOU FUCKIN gently caress, YOU ARE A LIAR NOW DIE. "No, I must regrettably decline your request sir. Now good day to you."
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Jun 23, 2015 18:23
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I can't begin to imagine the hellscape of social anxiety and misunderstandings you must navigate on a daily basis if the ME dialogue options confused you so drat much and so often.Moridin920 posted:Yeah actually if you say 'this interview is over' you walk away, if you say 'time to shut you up' you punch her. Also the paragon is always the top option, the renegade is the bottom option. If you pick 'time to shut you up' and were surprised when he hit her then idk. 'It's time to shut you up!' is so overtly aggressive on top of the option placement. Did anyone really think Shepard meant they would write a strongly worded letter to her boss and then organize a boycott of her news program? Magmarashi fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Jun 23, 2015 19:08
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You know what would have side stepped the issue? If the "punch him" button was labeled "[Punch him]." Just sayin'.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:15
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Lotish posted:You know what would have side stepped the issue? If the "punch him" button was labeled "[Punch him]." GET FOOD edit: Other than that VERY FIRST TIME in ME 1, every other "Punch Them" was telegraphed as gently caress, and then in the second and third game 90% of them became interrupts, which aren't part of the scope of the system we're talking about anyway. Magmarashi fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Jun 23, 2015 19:19
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Just so long as it doesn't go putting words in my mouth like "I could really go for a snack cake right about now. Do we still have any of those Fancy Lads?" because that is abhorrent to role-playing.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:22
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Lotish posted:Just so long as it doesn't go putting words in my mouth like "I could really go for a snack cake right about now. Do we still have any of those Fancy Lads?" because that is abhorrent to role-playing. Yeah, not like the limited, pre-written lines of The Good Old Days.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:24
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When I click "GET FOOD" I only want my character to shout the command like the Hulk and be rewarded with a generic FOOD that is deposited in my inventory.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:28
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Lotish posted:You know what would have side stepped the issue? If the "punch him" button was labeled "[Punch him]." I mean yeah okay but you have to be really socially dense to not understand 'Time to shut you up!' and the implications of that. Like, what did you *think* he was going to do with that option? It was going to get physical somehow.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:31
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Personally I was expecting to shoot him dead on the spot.  So disappointed.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:35
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Ah but in F4 apparently you can just pull out in the middle of any convo and blast away! Gonna be doing that a lot. Although I seem to remember something similar being promised in ME1 before it came out but maybe I just misread the article like the dumb kid that I was.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:45
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Lotish posted:When I click "GET FOOD" I only want my character to shout the command like the Hulk and be rewarded with a generic FOOD that is deposited in my inventory. 
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Jun 23, 2015 19:45
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Odobenidae posted:the entire "dialogue option results in completely unexpected result" thing is uncommon in practice but people apparently like the meme so it doesn't matter i guess It is uncommon, which makes summarised dialogue still inferior to just writing out the actual line.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:51
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GirlBones posted:This is awesome! Anyone know where I can see pictures like this for other games? Here's World Of Warcraft post Cataclysm with an almost infinite view distance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzTYvEBsghc Yaos fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Jun 23, 2015 19:55
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Can't they just meet everyone halfway and add that thing the new Deus Ex had where it pops up with what you're actually saying if you highlight the dialogue wheel option you want to choose?
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Jun 23, 2015 19:56
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Odobenidae posted:the entire "dialogue option results in completely unexpected result" thing is uncommon in practice but people apparently like the meme so it doesn't matter i guess
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Jun 23, 2015 19:58
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SunAndSpring posted:Can't they just meet everyone halfway and add that thing the new Deus Ex had where it pops up with what you're actually saying if you highlight the dialogue wheel option you want to choose? I thought this was a good compromise back when I thought Dragon Age Inquisition was going to do it, but then what they actually did was provide a summary of what you could expect to happen with certain critical story choices.
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Jun 23, 2015 19:59
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Lotish posted:When I click "GET FOOD" I only want my character to shout the command like the Hulk and be rewarded with a generic FOOD that is deposited in my inventory. Low intelligence run.
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Jun 23, 2015 20:26
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Moridin920 posted:Ah but in F4 apparently you can just pull out in the middle of any convo and blast away! I plan to shoot anyone who asks me to kill an innocent. I bet you didn't expect that when you called me over to talk. And they did promise a mechanic in Mass Effect where the game would register if you interrupted people or just straight up left a conversation as rudeness. They stated later that they couldn't get it fun so decided to ditch it in one and went with the "right hook, left hook" options of 2 and 3.
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Jun 23, 2015 20:28
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2house2fly posted:It is uncommon, which makes summarised dialogue still inferior to just writing out the actual line. It is definitely worse than dialogue choices in all of the previous fallout games, don't get me wrong. There's just no point in people being hyperbolic about it or being unfunny idiots with their hilarious take on Dialogue Choices Gone Wrong. Besides, i'm sure it will be fine, people (gamers in particular) are just adverse to change. Sooner or later we'll all be talking about how It Just Works.
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Spikeguy posted:I plan to shoot anyone who asks me to kill an innocent. I bet you didn't expect that when you called me over to talk. the best part is that in the previous games your conversations with NPCs took place in some kind of sound and time vacuum of extra-dimensional space, so you have situations where the bad guy in the megaton bar asks you to nuke the place and no one else is concerned at all, and if you cap him in the bar everyone else gets mad at you guys, i just put a 9mm between the eyes of a guy who was soliciting strangers to nuke your entire town. i find your hostility misplaced and overall judgement capabilities to be extremely lacking Freaking Crumbum fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Jun 23, 2015 20:52
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homeless poster posted:guys, i just put a 9mm between the eyes of a guy who was soliciting strangers to nuke your entire town. i find your hostility, and overall judgement capabilities, to be extremely lacking Who are you to dispense justice when the town has a sheriff for it 
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Jun 23, 2015 20:58
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frajaq posted:Who are you to dispense justice when the town has a sheriff for it uh i'm a lone wanderer with a mysterious past who hails from parts unknown. clearly my every move is destined to become legend, and you should be so fortunate as to watch me write my grand narrative across the canvas of your town
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Jun 23, 2015 21:00
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Look you can't just go blasting every stimhead talking nonsense alright? There's due loving process here in Megaton. I don't know where you're from but around here we are civilized. Spikeguy posted:I plan to shoot anyone who asks me to kill an innocent. I bet you didn't expect that when you called me over to talk. I'm definitely planning on shooting people who offer me a quest I want to turn down. That was something I absolutely hated in Skyrim; no matter what the quest appears in your log. Playing as a good character and some Argonian asks you to orchestrate a shipwreck so you can loot the corpses together? No option to tell him to gently caress off or report him to the guards or anything. Hopefully F4 lets me shoot the quest giver in the face. It'd also be cathartic. Being able to shoot Caesar in the middle of his speeches in NV would have been great.
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Or that quest where they want you to become a cannibal. Skyrim was so loving bad at this, just give me failstates for quests I don't want. If Todd Howard is reading this, I hope he's taking note.
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Jun 23, 2015 21:18
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Attacking quest givers will only work if they don't make every NPC with a unique name essential. Oooh! Unless they implement procedurally generated quests you can get from anybody! "Help! My [child|brahmin|heirloom] was stolen by [raiders|ghouls|soldiers], they were heading towards the old abandoned [schoolhouse|mine|drive-in]. If you help me I can pay you [level*25] bottlecaps."
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Jun 23, 2015 21:38
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Lotish posted:You know what would have side stepped the issue? If the "punch him" button was labeled "[Punch him]." This reminds me of an Aldmeri Dominion quest in ESO. There's an NPC who's causing a shitstorm (and a literal storm) about being constantly pushed around. When you find him atop a tower and try to speak to him he screams about no longer being pushed around and one of your response options is quote:[Push him over the edge] (NPC Dies) Pretty much the only entertaining moment in ESO
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Jun 23, 2015 21:43
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Nevets posted:
I mean, that's basically what they did for Skyrim.
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Jun 23, 2015 21:51
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Want a perk where your character is mute, and communicates through your dog which barks each word you would otherwise say aloud in succession.
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Bicyclops posted:I mean, that's basically what they did for Skyrim. But only after you were Guildmaster were you rewarded with such epic quests as "Guy is talking poo poo we're getting paid to punch him" or "Get me six firesalts."
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Jun 23, 2015 21:58
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Scyantific posted:This reminds me of an Aldmeri Dominion quest in ESO. There's an NPC who's causing a shitstorm (and a literal storm) about being constantly pushed around. When you find him atop a tower and try to speak to him he screams about no longer being pushed around and one of your response options is Okay, I like that.
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SirDan3k posted:But only after you were Guildmaster were you rewarded with such epic quests as "Guy is talking poo poo we're getting paid to punch him" or "Get me six firesalts." As Guildmaster, I won't abide anybody talking poo poo on me
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