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quote:And that's the fault of the game's design, rather than the complete lack of advertising? If only they had advertised more everything would be ok
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WoW's massive jumble of stats in 2004 were both better named and more consistent. 
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Jun 25, 2015 18:34
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Gear also has secondary stats that also modify the same things as the base six stats, and then there's also the thresholds that give additional bonuses if you have a certain amount of a stat, and on top of that there's the rune system which can either modify base stats or the derived secondary stats
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Jun 25, 2015 18:35
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Gearing wasn't too bad considering it basically broke down to Stack one stat and maybe a second lesser priority. I do support simplifying the poo poo out of it though.
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Jun 25, 2015 18:46
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The Chairman posted:Gear also has secondary stats that also modify the same things as the base six stats, and then there's also the thresholds that give additional bonuses if you have a certain amount of a stat, and on top of that there's the rune system which can either modify base stats or the derived secondary stats what is the point of having all these powergamey stats when the game is supposed to be about 40 man blobs all wailing on a hitpoint sponge until it drops its lunch money? oh right HARDCOOOOOOOORRRRREEEEEE
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Jun 25, 2015 19:35
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Mormon Star Wars posted:This is what people are complaining about them changing: Where's the one for mysticality?
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Jun 25, 2015 19:48
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Which class has a high chutzpah?
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The Chairman posted:Gear also has secondary stats that also modify the same things as the base six stats, and then there's also the thresholds that give additional bonuses if you have a certain amount of a stat, and on top of that there's the rune system which can either modify base stats or the derived secondary stats and people are raising pitchforks to try and preserve this crap? What the heck did these players do before Wildstar? Vanilla/BC WoW wasn't even this bad. What games did these people play for the past 10 years and how were they satisfied? These are important questions!
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Jun 25, 2015 20:32
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strength, dexterity, charisma, intelligence, wisdom, stamina but it's super unique we only lifted the exact same stat spread as loving dnd
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Jun 25, 2015 20:39
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also WildStar China because that's what Carbine needs right now http://2p.com/34643759_1/Giant-Interactive-to-Publish-Wildstar-in-China-by-Aaron.htm
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"Hey, I got a piece of gear with Finesse on it, what does that do?" "Well let me consult this huge chart,"
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quote:Various quality-of-life improvements have also been implemented, from an always-on sprint (outside of combat) to moving Prime monsters — those mega group bosses — to their own lairs on the edges of maps so that players don’t unexpectedly roll into them while dodging regular mobs. Another very helpful feature is the sell junk button! Guys this is great, I can't wait until these cha quote:But these changes are not totally set in stone. Even though the game has launched, Donatelli emphasized that this new update will spend time in beta. In fact, the reason the conversion is happening in the fall is precisely to give players time to beta test and offer feedback. And the team plans incorporate that feedback into the final launch of the new F2P version to make sure the changes made were the right ones. And Donatelli says the team expects to make changes: “We expect people to test our transition and be like, ‘We like this more,’ or ‘If you guys do that it will be better,’ and we’re going to make those changes.” Hahahaha yes, listen to your existing playerbase that are howling to keep people from playing the game, this is a great idea.
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Jun 25, 2015 21:07
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Eye of Widesauron posted:It's like MMO's are just one big honeypot for this poo poo.
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Jun 25, 2015 21:16
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its like mmos are a huge pile of poo poo
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Mormon Star Wars posted:Guys this is great, I can't wait until these cha Hey don't worry about it. Even with the shittiest players in existence, you've got.their track record of listening to beta/public test realm to absolutely guarantee none of that will be heard or acted on at all.
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Eye of Widesauron posted:It's like MMO's are just one big honeypot for this poo poo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A21wxZKiao8
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I saw some people mention some of this stuff so here's the whole article about upcoming F2P things The thing I think is cool is the Neighborhoods feature, which is going to let five people combine their housing plots into a big Neighborhood plot so they're all physically there next to eachother in-game instead of being seperate instances. You get a communal central plot to customize together too and up to 20 people can have editing permissions for the whole neighborhood Wildstar's housing is still super fun and good and this is a really neat way to expand it Also the stat simplification sounds really good and I'm glad they're making big changes to the game, it needs them
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Mormon Star Wars posted:This is what people are complaining about them changing: What the gently caress am I looking at? What the gently caress does this even mean?
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Jun 25, 2015 23:24
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They should make a Breakout style mini game out of that chart
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Spookyelectric posted:What the gently caress am I looking at? It was their bright idea for designating who gear of a specific weight class belongs to. For example, both stalkers and medics wear medium armor -- if a piece of gear with Brutality as its primary stat drops, it's intended for a DPS stalker, because Brutality (= assault) is more useful to them than to support stalkers (whose abilities key off Tech instead) or either medic spec (where Brutality = crit severity and armor penetration). This is better than just making gear class-specific because The Chairman fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jun 25, 2015 |
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Jun 25, 2015 23:39
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It's not truly hardcore raiding if you don't need a spreadsheet with primary / secondary stats involved for multiple classes. How else is loot council going to distribute the loot?
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onesixtwo posted:It's not truly hardcore raiding if you don't need a spreadsheet with primary / secondary stats involved for multiple classes. How else is loot council going to distribute the loot? Easy, guild leaders first, then their girlfriends, siblings, and cousins, whatever is left is purchased using DKP.
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cthulhoo posted:its like mmos are a huge pile of poo poo But vrmomorpergers are the future of gaming
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Mayostard posted:Easy, guild leaders first, then their girlfriends, siblings, and cousins, whatever is left is purchased using DKP. Dont forget the Tank or healer getting a random item and leaving the guild 1 hr later.
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The Chairman posted:It was their bright idea for designating who gear of a specific weight class belongs to. For example, both stalkers and medics wear medium armor -- if a piece of gear with Brutality as its primary stat drops, it's intended for a DPS stalker, because Brutality (= assault) is more useful to them than to support stalkers (whose abilities key off Tech instead) or either medic spec (where Brutality = crit severity and armor penetration). This is better than just making gear class-specific because 
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It's better if it can cut down on one piece of loot being greatly desired by a lot of different classes, but WS only has like 5 classes split among 3 armor weights AND weapons are only usable by their specific class so...
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...and then they hosed up their stat tables so bad that level 48 blue crafted gear dumping every possible point into one stat was the best you could get until raid-gear which was long, long after people quit the game in droves. HARDCORE.
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SumYungGui posted:...and then they hosed up their stat tables so bad that level 48 blue crafted gear dumping every possible point into one stat was the best you could get until raid-gear which was long, long after people quit the game in droves. Taking advantage of developer idiocy and abusing unintended mechanics is like Classic Raiding 101.
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Wildstar is adding some new facial styles, a panda themed armor set and mount, and like 20 new pets that are baby versions of existing animals for the Chinese launch of the game. All of that stuff is going to be added to the US version too. New faces will be nice to have.
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how much do you get paid per post
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wb Thunderbro hope youre not gonna have another meltdown over animes itt 
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This thread is getting a little too hardcore for my tastes.
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too many words spent trying to defend naming a stat "moxie"quote:But in a game where you can actively dodge attacks, agility doesn't mean poo poo. Everyone is agile. Scientist paths are also wicked intelligent, that's their thing. Intelligence or intellect would be redundant, but insight isn't.
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The Chairman posted:too many words spent trying to defend naming a stat "moxie" cthulhoo posted:wb Thunderbro hope youre not gonna have another meltdown over animes itt you've made more posts about it, please show me where japanese cartoons bad touched you
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Thunderbro posted:how much do you get paid per post playing bad games with some promise until they get made good is what i do it worked for Marvel Heroes it didn't work for Super Monday Night Combat so i figure i've got a 50/50 shot at wildstar
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Kelp Plankton posted:playing bad games with some promise until they get made good is what i do I'm sorry friend, may you find peace (it won't get good)
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So last night I had a nightmare that I was playing Wildstar. I was tanking some big fish monster or something, and every few seconds one of my abilities disappeared from my action bar until all that I had left was my basic engineer shooty-power. We died and everyone yelled at me. I hate this loving game so much!
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The Chairman posted:too many words spent trying to defend naming a stat "moxie" No, let me tell you about Moxie. 
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Mormon Star Wars posted:This is what people are complaining about them changing: I don't understand why they felt the need to change the names of stats to be such a mess, EQ and vanilla WoW and all those old games they revered just used strength intellegence dexterity or whatever, right?
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space hamsters own
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