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Harime Nui posted:So far it seems, we're going towards a situation where Allison will end up having to rescue Furnace, but I guess we'll see. Sonar talked about how without defensive abilities people with powers were still vulnerable to bullets and a lot of crime fighters died fighting regular criminals since superheroes had virtually no restraint when combating them so the crooks would go lethal almost immediatly since that was their only hope.
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What if she can only fly for, say, an hour at a time? And what if she discovers this while 30,000 feet up? She almost certainly wouldn't be injured by the fall, but whatever she crashed into would be demolished utterly.
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It would depend on what she hit, too. She's not super massive or anything. Unless the story needs her to be because Comics or something.
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This is an incredibly specific documentary segment for Allison to just stumble onto. And I don't understand the use of putting this clunky motive dump in the story right here. If it's for the audience's benefit, we already know Mary is targeting rapists. It's not like this is some subtle clue that'll finally reveal who the killer is. If it's so Allison knows why Mary is killing people, it's redundant. The structure of this arc is that Allison encounters different worldviews through tortuously long conversations, so Mary's reasoning will almost certainly be rehashed when they two women finally meet. And that's assuming Allison even remembers some random blurb that was on TV when she finally tracks Moonshadow down. I'm almost tempted to think it's a red herring, but after all that Patrick stuff I feel like the comic is way to shallow to have things be anything other than exactly what they appear to be.
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Jun 26, 2015 10:31
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Uh, we already know why Mary is killing people and it's not because she thinks it'll fix contemporary American culture. Remember the starfish speech? This baboon thing is real though. I could see Mary knowing about it and finding it interesting.
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Galvanik posted:This is an incredibly specific documentary segment for Allison to just stumble onto. Maybe Mary leaves her favourite documentary on a loop to cover her absence.
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Jun 26, 2015 12:34
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Mary's illusion will now give a monologue that takes weeks to cover and be inconsistent with previous characterization.
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Jun 26, 2015 16:21
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So we know how she was able to kill people while the government thought she was at home. We also now know the government (secretly?) monitors superpeople. Smart move for Allison would be to record her passing her hand through the illusion and going straight to her doctor/confidant.
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Gorilla Salad posted:So we know how she was able to kill people while the government thought she was at home. We also now know the government (secretly?) monitors superpeople. She ought to save the only relatable character left in the series instead.
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Jun 26, 2015 18:13
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Her dad?
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Jun 26, 2015 19:16
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The possum family.
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:She ought to save the only relatable character left in the series instead. That british guy isn't in this chapter though?
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I don't think the current pacing works with a twice a week comic.
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Jun 30, 2015 17:50
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Well, at least there was a lot of movement in this comic. We go straight to Allison investigating the mystery room. With luck the next page will show us what is inside as opposed to a dramatic door opening.
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Atmus posted:It would depend on what she hit, too. She's not super massive or anything. Unless the story needs her to be because Comics or something. She doesn't have to be. Alison's not heavy, but I'd imagine her invulnerability would count for the same as being a dense enough mass to resist atmospheric friction, which means she's theoretically the same as a kinetic orbital strike.
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It also depends a lot on how she;s propelled. She doesn't have to be massive to damage a plane (or a building) if she's an irresistible force. Hell, she doesn't have to be moving at all, as long as what holds her up holds her where she is regardless of the forces acting on her.
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Gorilla Salad posted:So we know how she was able to kill people while the government thought she was at home. We also now know the government (secretly?) monitors superpeople.
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Wanderer posted:She doesn't have to be. Alison's not heavy, but I'd imagine her invulnerability would count for the same as being a dense enough mass to resist atmospheric friction, which means she's theoretically the same as a kinetic orbital strike. Maybe because lol comics, but 'realistically' she's still only like 130lbs with the same terminal velocity as any other person of the same size and weight. She'd get up and walk away from it, but she shouldn't do any more damage than someone that fell out of a plane would. Invincibility shouldn't affect aerodynamics or gravitational acceleration, so she shouldn't be able to break 120-130mph unpropelled.
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tonberrytoby posted:Only if she really wants to arrest Moonshadow. I am not convinced she does. True. She did turn a blind eye to a mass murdering psychopath.
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Atmus posted:Maybe because lol comics, but 'realistically' she's still only like 130lbs with the same terminal velocity as any other person of the same size and weight. She'd get up and walk away from it, but she shouldn't do any more damage than someone that fell out of a plane would. Invincibility shouldn't affect aerodynamics or gravitational acceleration, so she shouldn't be able to break 120-130mph unpropelled. The problem isn't aerodynamics or gravity, the problem is her invincibility. When a person falls out of a plane and hits the ground, the shock of impact is absorbed by their body. Allison is invincible, so all the shock of the impact is transferred outwards. Look at what happens when she jumps out of a first-story window. Now imagine that at terminal velocity. She won't be nuking any cities, but she'll gently caress some building's day up.
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Atmus posted:Maybe because lol comics, but 'realistically' she's still only like 130lbs with the same terminal velocity as any other person of the same size and weight. She'd get up and walk away from it, but she shouldn't do any more damage than someone that fell out of a plane would. Invincibility shouldn't affect aerodynamics or gravitational acceleration, so she shouldn't be able to break 120-130mph unpropelled. the first time she did a big jump as a Teen she made a crater
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Captain Bravo posted:The problem isn't aerodynamics or gravity, the problem is her invincibility. When a person falls out of a plane and hits the ground, the shock of impact is absorbed by their body. Allison is invincible, so all the shock of the impact is transferred outwards. Look at what happens when she jumps out of a first-story window. Now imagine that at terminal velocity. She won't be nuking any cities, but she'll gently caress some building's day up. Pretty sure she just punched a hole in the side of the building there.
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Or at least threw a guy through it. I dunno, the art is low-detail enough that she could just be walking through landscaping/drainage features.Captain Bravo posted:The problem isn't aerodynamics or gravity, the problem is her invincibility. When a person falls out of a plane and hits the ground, the shock of impact is absorbed by their body. Allison is invincible, so all the shock of the impact is transferred outwards. Look at what happens when she jumps out of a first-story window. Now imagine that at terminal velocity. She won't be nuking any cities, but she'll gently caress some building's day up. A regular body doesn't absorb the energy of the fall. It is deformed by it, and spreads it out some, but all that force still goes to whatever it hit. Mega-Girl does (Well, Did.) the same thing, only with less splatter. I guess she could do more damage if she were intentionally cannonballing when she hit, but a steel rod of the same impact footprint, mass, and speed would probably do more. Outside of a comic book setting, anyway.
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Atmus posted:Or at least threw a guy through it. I dunno, the art is low-detail enough that she could just be walking through landscaping/drainage features.
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Ok guys, I'm not talking about the window she punched a guy through then jumped out, I'm talking about the small crater she's standing in after she hits the ground from jumping out the window she punched a guy through. I didn't think that needed to be specifically pointed out, but I guess I underestimated the  in this thread.
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Not much else to talk about as of late.
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This is a pile of pages that are telling us things that we already know: Mary is the killer, and she can create illusions. These pages are very well executed otherwise, and if we hadn't already seen Mary explicitly shown murdering those ex-military dudes they would be hitting way harder. This series is in bad need of an editor, it seems to have lost its stride.
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In the latest comic, is that a satellite picture of a dam in the second last panel?
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I think the purpose of the last three pages is really just to get Alison from point A to point B, where point A is "having no loving idea where Moonshadow is" and point B is "potentially punching her in the face". Overall they're fairly economical. She's found the secret lair with some kind of map which presumably shows where she is and a bunch of evidence showing she's the killer; we could cut right there as soon as the next page, although it might be one or two more depending. And yeah, looks like a dam to me.
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A damfull of water could probably kill a man of fire.
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So wait, she's been killing dudes around the country? All that travel is expensive and time consuming. You'd think that somebody would notice all of that.
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Uhh... she is invisible. She can just walk onto a plane and take an empty seat or stand around somewhere out of the way. Edit: Plus, as we've just seen, she has a decoy rigged in her apartment so it seems like she's there all the time.
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SlothfulCobra posted:So wait, she's been killing dudes around the country? All that travel is expensive and time consuming. You'd think that somebody would notice all of that. If I could turn invisible I wouldn't pay for plane tickets. If I could turn invisible I wouldn't pay for much, honestly.
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The next 5 strips are going to be the 5 pages of Moonshadow's written manifesto that Allison finds in lieu of a spoken monologue. No drawings except the edges of the paper, just 5 straight strips of pure text.
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Atmus posted:A regular body doesn't absorb the energy of the fall. It is deformed by it, and spreads it out some, but all that force still goes to whatever it hit. Mega-Girl does (Well, Did.) the same thing, only with less splatter. I guess she could do more damage if she were intentionally cannonballing when she hit, but a steel rod of the same impact footprint, mass, and speed would probably do more. Outside of a comic book setting, anyway. For all purposes related to the discussion, she is a 130-pound metal rod. It's an interesting thought experiment. We've seen that Alison's brand of invulnerability is sheer damage resistance through tissue density, rather than a post-Crisis Superman-style force field. You fire a bullet at her and it simply fails to penetrate. She doesn't appear to feel pain from such things, either; there's a bit towards the end of the arc with Feral where she's on fire and doesn't seem to notice. Thus, if she's moving at terminal velocity, she isn't going to deform or break the way that most other terrestrial objects would. She's effectively an armor-piercing round, and depending on the site she hit I could see her having a real problem getting back out of her impact crater. At the same time, if Alison was up high enough before she dropped, she's going to develop a heat envelope through atmospheric friction and have a lot of compressed air in front of her ("ram pressure"). The last time I checked, the leading theory on the Tunguska event was that a 30-foot-diameter asteroid hit Earth's atmosphere, but broke up before it hit the ground, and the explosion was the release of all that heat and air. Alison's not as big, but if she could produce even a measurable fraction of that impact, she's now essentially a nuclear power.
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Doesn't orbital velocity account for a fair bit (read: most) of the kinetic energy that goes in to the hypothetical "rods from god"? So it wouldn't be enough to just fly really high. She'd have to actually go into orbit, then dive down again without slowing down. Her new flight power is pretty cool, but it doesn't quite come across as "go 27600 km/h"-cool enough to reach orbital velocity. She's still missing an S from the FISS package. Slashrat fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jul 5, 2015 |
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Incredibly dumb thing I can't believe I just noticed in the large centre panel in the current comic. Light bulbs do not work that way.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Incredibly dumb thing I can't believe I just noticed in the large centre panel in the current comic. Light bulbs do not work that way. Er, yeah they do. Have you never been in a room with a single too weak light bulb? It'll only fully light a small area around it, and the rest of the room will be in shadow. The comic is simplifying that to only two light levels when in reality i would be more of a gradient, but I'm not seeing how that simplification is weird or wrong.
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