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richardfun posted:That's it. Mandatory gay marriage for all! Holy crap. Congratulations America.
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xbilkis posted:Oh my god Scalia This broke his brain, didn't it?
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I'm expecting it Monday. your wish my command
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We are all gay Satan now
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Fuckin Thomas posted:The corollary of that principle is that human dignity wow
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So what's the one remaining case? I say Johnson.
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xbilkis posted:Oh my god Scalia , whined the man who was all too happy to join the majority in Bush v Gore
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Drone posted:"If you are among the many Americans--of whatever sexual orientation--who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today's decision. Celebrate the achievement of a desired goal. Celebrate the opportunity for a new expression of commitment to a partner. Celebrate the availability of new benefits. But do not Celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it." Oh, just cover me in this. Pour it onto me.
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alnilam posted:From the majority: Holy poo poo Equal Protection Null bomb!!!!
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^^^^^that part Does that bit referring to larger discrimination against gays imply strict scrutiny or did we not get that?
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Axel Serenity posted:loooool Roberts tears are delicious I will, Roberts. I will celebrate exactly that, I don't frankly give a poo poo if your view of the constitution gave me equal rights, all I care about is the fact that for the first time my government has no choice but to acknowledge that I was born the exact same kind of human being as my straight peers.
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Holy poo poo that's nutter even for Thomas.
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We need a board filter to replace Justice Thomas with ironicat.
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Jun 26, 2015 15:19
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Holy poo poo Clarence Thomas
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quote:Take, for example, this Court, which consists of only nine men and women, all of them successful lawyers who studied at Harvard or Yale Law School. Four of the nine are natives of New York City. Eight of them grew up in east- and west-coast States. Only one hails from the vast expanse in-between. Not a single Southwesterner or even, to tell the truth, a genuine Westerner (California does not count). Not a single evangelical Christian (a group that comprises about one quarter of Americans), or even a Protestant of any denomination. The strikingly unrepresentative character of the body voting on today’s social upheaval would be irrelevant if they were functioning as judges, answering the legal question whether the American people had ever ratified a constitutional provision that was understood to proscribe the traditional definition of marriage. But of course the Justices in today’s majority are not voting on that basis; they say they are not. And to allow the policy question of same-sex marriage to be considered and resolved by a select, patrician, highly unrepresentative panel of nine is to violate a principle even more fundamental than no taxation without representation: no social transformation without representation. Welp wrap it up fellow Californians I guess we are not genuine Westerners Also reading in between the lines I think Scalia wants affirmative action for under-represented populations on the SCOTUS
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SCOTUSblog posted:Scalia's dissent has an awesome footnote on page 7 (note 22): he says, "If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began: ‘The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,’ I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie." He is not happy with Justice Kennedy. Unnnnnnnnnghhhh
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 Scalia:If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began: ‘The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,’ I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I will, Roberts. I will celebrate exactly that, I don't frankly give a poo poo if your view of the constitution gave me equal rights, all I care about is the fact that for the first time my government has no choice but to acknowledge that I was born the exact same kind of human being as my straight peers. tbf Roberts' dissent from scotusblog doesn't sound like tears or frothing rage [helllloooo Scalia] as he thinks that the proper place for this was within the democratic process. It's a pretty measured dissent that clearly tells people to go celebrate that its over, but he doesn't like that it was the court that did it.
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Johnson 8-1 Scalia. Alito dissenting. Owning a sawed-off shotgun is not, in itself, a violent act. An obvious one.
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Roberts is a loving coward. He has the power and justification to make a positive impact on this country's civil rights, but instead he's content to wait out the status quo (remember how long it took every state to formally abolish segregation even after the court got involved?) despite the real harm coming to gay and lesbian couples. His response to this case is ignorant of history and is further proof that he's just an opportunist that wants to play to both sides of politics.
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Jun 26, 2015 15:22
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Cool, glad to hear promising signs from Kennedy! Looks like I might have been wrong about him. Time to dive in to the decision, I guess. Also holy poo poo Clarence Thomas. 
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JesusSinfulHands posted:Welp wrap it up fellow Californians I guess we are not genuine Westerners Shorter Scalia: "This Court and its New York sense of humor..."
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Slate Action posted:Unnnnnnnnnghhhh Was about to post that.
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Jun 26, 2015 15:23
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Scalia wrote the 8-1 majority opinion on Johnson v. United States. Owning an illegal weapon is not a violent crime. Consistent with the principles of his dissent on the ACA case yesterday.
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Scalia footnote:quote:If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began: “The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,” I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie. Scalia on marriage and "hippies" quote:The opinion is couched in a style that is as pretentious as its content is egotistic. It is one thing for separate concurring or dissenting opinions to contain extravagances, even silly extravagances, of thought and expression; it is something else for the official opinion of the Court to do so. Of course the opinion’s showy profundities are often profoundly incoherent. “The nature of marriage is that, through its enduring bond, two persons together can find other freedoms, such as expression, intimacy, and spirituality.” (Really? Who ever thought that intimacy and spirituality [whatever that means] were freedoms? And if intimacy is, one would think Freedom of Intimacy is abridged rather than expanded by marriage. Ask the nearest hippie. Expression, sure enough, is a freedom, but anyone in a long-lasting marriage will attest that that happy state constricts, rather than expands, what one can prudently say.)
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Schnorkles posted:tbf Roberts' dissent from scotusblog doesn't sound like tears or frothing rage [helllloooo Scalia] as he thinks that the proper place for this was within the democratic process. It's a pretty measured dissent that clearly tells people to go celebrate that its over, but he doesn't like that it was the court that did it. That's cool, he's less of a bitter poo poo than utterly hateful men like Scalia, but he's still straight up wrong what the constitution holds wrt equal protection for minority groups under federal law, and him basically pulling the salty fighting game community "YOU DIDN'T WIN, YOU DIDN'T WIN" owns.
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Forever_Peace posted:Cool, glad to hear promising signs from Kennedy! Looks like I might have been wrong about him. Time to dive in to the decision, I guess. Can you link to his dissent or is it not out yet?
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This is the best day. I wish I could send a giant 'Deal With It' .gif to every #tcot on twitter.
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SedanChair posted:Can you link to his dissent or is it not out yet? http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf
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quote:Expression, sure enough, is a freedom, but anyone in a long-lasting marriage will attest that that happy state constricts, rather than expands, what one can prudently say.
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quote:but anyone in a long-lasting marriage will attest that that happy state constricts, rather than expands, what one can prudently say take my wife... please
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Jun 26, 2015 15:27
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I don 't like guns but what the hell is there to dissent to in Johnson?
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Jealous Cow posted:^^^^^that part Man who knows. Still haven't read the opinion, but if there aren't a thousand lawyers rewriting their gender discrimination briefs I'll eat my hat. The fact we didn't go this path 30 years ago is a loving travesty. Oh I am getting wasted this weekend!!!!!!
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Oh my god this Scalia dissent is incredible. I am so incredibly overjoyed that this will be his legacy. In 20 years, the history books will include a single paragraph about an abrasive old fart who shouted about hippies and the war on Christians while gay marriage was finally made legal.
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Chamale posted:Scalia wrote the 8-1 majority opinion on Johnson v. United States. Owning an illegal weapon is not a violent crime. Consistent with the principles of his dissent on the ACA case yesterday. Not only that but they ruled that portions of the ACCA are unconstitutional.
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Schnorkles posted:tbf Roberts' dissent from scotusblog doesn't sound like tears or frothing rage [helllloooo Scalia] as he thinks that the proper place for this was within the democratic process. It's a pretty measured dissent that clearly tells people to go celebrate that its over, but he doesn't like that it was the court that did it. On the other hand, adjudicating the rights of minority groups in a representative democracy is one of the most rock-solid reason to have an institution as counter-majoritarian as a life-tenured federal judiciary, so if this isn't the role of the Court I'm not sure what the gently caress he thinks it is. (They're better disguised tears, but don't mistake them for some other form of saltwater.)
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