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The Warszawa
Jun 6, 2005

Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.

mastershakeman posted:

It's kind of weird to see the catharsis people in D&D are getting out of 'winning' a SCOTUS opinion. I can see it if that person was receiving subsidies, but it's really just kind of strange. It's almost like the reaction to winning an election, but instead about a document they haven't read or understand.

The healthcare stuff has been a huge (and partisan) deal for so long that it makes sense. Also, a lot of people probably know people who benefit from PPACA generally if not the subsidies specifically.

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Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

I'm late on this one but loving lol at the Blarzgh troll thread on Dnd.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer
Warsawaza saving me from myself over in D&D.

The Warszawa
Jun 6, 2005

Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.

blarzgh posted:

Warsawaza saving me from myself over in D&D.

"And what about where there is only one set of footprints?"

"That, my son, is where I carried water for you."

But seriously if you do a Ronson thread it will be a hilarious shitshow.

The Warszawa fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jun 25, 2015

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
I really want to go argue that racism isn't bad in that thread but I'll just get probated.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Well, as far as the subsidies are concerned, this decision certainly makes my job easier.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

The Warszawa posted:

"And what about where there is only one set of footprints?"

"That, my son, is where I carried water for you."

But seriously if you do a Ronson thread it will be a hilarious shitshow.

I ordered "So You've Been Publicly Shamed." Can't wait.

The Warszawa
Jun 6, 2005

Look at me. Look at me.

I am the captain now.

blarzgh posted:

I ordered "So You've Been Publicly Shamed." Can't wait.

This poo poo. That ice cold.

Michelle Pffeifer. That white gold.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
A judge just blatantly misinterpreted a recent case in a way that's entirely in my favor, to a degree I wasn't even arguing since she's so wrong. But winning feels great

mikeraskol
May 3, 2006

Oh yeah. I was killing you.

The Warszawa posted:

This poo poo. That ice cold.

Michelle Pffeifer. That white gold.

You're out of control.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.
I don't understand this thread at all lately

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

mastershakeman posted:

A judge just blatantly misinterpreted a recent case in a way that's entirely in my favor, to a degree I wasn't even arguing since she's so wrong. But winning feels great

Julio! Get the sheriff! We going to evict some minorities!

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Monaghan posted:

I'm late on this one but loving lol at the Blarzgh troll thread on Dnd.

Link?

Alaemon
Jan 4, 2009

Proctors are guardians of the sanctity and integrity of legal education, therefore they are responsible for the nourishment of the soul.

blogging enthusiast posted:

That seems weird to me (Australia). If trial dates are allocated before the first hearing, what happens to all the cases that are resolved by a plea? What if new expert evidence needs to be obtained, or a complex legal question needs to be determined? Do trials fall over and get adjourned regularly?

Often, our status conferences are just short hearings where everyone agrees that the trial dates are still good, but it is also very common for the judge to notice a problem nobody has thought about yet. It seems like that saves a lot of time in the long run.

Our first "hearing" is a meeting between defense attorney and prosecutor. They confer and inform our scheduler if it needs to be set for plea or trial.

If the parties reach an acceptable plea bargain during the course of the case, we take the plea. Then the trial can come off the docket. If there's some reason for delay -- say a lab takes a long time with the evidence -- parties are free to seek adjournment.

From the court's perspective, having a firm trial date set helps keep the attorneys vaguely accountable for the case. We have a plea cutoff after which the judge won't accept any bargains. So there's a point at which defendants need to decide if they're going to trial or not.

We have two things driving our cases that I don't know are necessarily pressures in Australia. We have a constitutional right to a speedy trial that imposes some deadlines on prosecution. We also have oversight from state-level administration, which gives us performance measures we have to satisfy.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Here it is. Be warned, it goes from a semi-serious discussion on race and identity in American civil society to a interracial gay porn fantasy pretty quickly. Although that might be the result of blargzh's avatar.

TheAttackSlug
Aug 15, 2008

Alaemon posted:

We have a plea cutoff after which the judge won't accept any bargains.

Dang I've never heard of that before, it sounds sort of alarming.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
.

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jul 11, 2021

ActusRhesus
Sep 18, 2007

"Perhaps the fact the defendant had to be dragged out of the courtroom while declaring 'Death to you all, a Jihad on the court' may have had something to do with the revocation of his bond. That or calling the judge a bald-headed cock-sucker. Either way."

mastershakeman posted:

A judge just blatantly misinterpreted a recent case in a way that's entirely in my favor, to a degree I wasn't even arguing since she's so wrong. But winning feels great

Stand by for appellate loss.

sullat posted:

Although that might be the result of blargzh's avatar.

Your welcome.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

sullat posted:

Here it is. Be warned, it goes from a semi-serious discussion on race and identity in American civil society to a interracial gay porn fantasy pretty quickly. Although that might be the result of blargzh's avatar.

Its really become this super-meta, mostly-unintentional troll, where I go, "Why can't we talk realistically about whether we should remove the confederate flag without defaulting to 'because it's racist and you're racist'?" and the entire thread in unison responds, "Because its racist and you're racist!"

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

ActusRhesus posted:

Stand by for appellate loss.


Your welcome.

Considering the case against me is a recent, horribly written one (overturns the mailbox rule and allows issues to be raised without waiver for the first time at summary judgment, even on a blank answer), I'd welcome it. But appeals don't really matter, as i'm always going to win in the end. The question is how long it takes.

Otoh I just had a couple in court that have been in their former house for two years after the final order. No one knows how. :shrug:

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

mastershakeman posted:

Otoh I just had a couple in court that have been in their former house for two years after the final order. No one knows how. :shrug:

Because "Property Managment" is code for "Pay me $1,200.00 a month to call some lawn guy."

Elotana
Dec 12, 2003

and i'm putting it all on the goddamn expense account

quote:

If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began: ‘The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,’ I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie.
so loving tasty

ActusRhesus
Sep 18, 2007

"Perhaps the fact the defendant had to be dragged out of the courtroom while declaring 'Death to you all, a Jihad on the court' may have had something to do with the revocation of his bond. That or calling the judge a bald-headed cock-sucker. Either way."
Yeah, the prose was a little over the top. But how do you rule against gay marriage on equal protection grounds when a fuckton of cases say marriage is a fundamental right.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!

Elotana posted:

so loving tasty



lol came here to post this and also this:


Scalia posted:

The opinion is couched in a style that is as pretentious as its content is egotistic. It is one thing for separate concurring or dissenting opinions to contain extravagances, even silly extravagances, of thought and expression; it is something else for the official opinion of the Court to do so. Of course the opinion’s showy profundities are often profoundly incoherent. “The nature of marriage is that, through its enduring bond, two persons together can find other freedoms, such as expression, intimacy, and spirituality.” (Really? Who ever thought that intimacy and spirituality [whatever that means] were freedoms? And if intimacy is, one would think Freedom of Intimacy is abridged rather than expanded by marriage. Ask the nearest hippie. Expression, sure enough, is a freedom, but anyone in a long-lasting marriage will attest that that happy state constricts, rather than expands, what one can prudently say.)

ActusRhesus
Sep 18, 2007

"Perhaps the fact the defendant had to be dragged out of the courtroom while declaring 'Death to you all, a Jihad on the court' may have had something to do with the revocation of his bond. That or calling the judge a bald-headed cock-sucker. Either way."
Scalia is apparently sleeping on the couch tonight.

Popero
Apr 17, 2001

.406/.553/.735
I think the state court opinions that did it on equal protection grounds are probably better opinions overall, but who cares in the end.

SlothBear
Jan 25, 2009

What is this strange feeling I have about the Supreme Court. It's like the opposite of shame. Is there a word for this?

Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.
lol at Scalia saying gays shouldn't be able to get married because being married sucks. el oh el

mikeraskol
May 3, 2006

Oh yeah. I was killing you.
lol at Scalia calling someone else pretentious and egotistic

mikeraskol fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Jun 26, 2015

Pook Good Mook
Aug 6, 2013


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Still more reasoned than Alito's dissent.

G-Mawwwwwww
Jan 31, 2003

My LPth are Hot Garbage
Biscuit Hider
gently caress yes, client base gets bigger.

I am already sponsoring a gay event to advertise. No loving joke.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
Scalia used the term "tall-building lawyer" which is cool and funnier than "white shoe"

mikeraskol
May 3, 2006

Oh yeah. I was killing you.
Seems like I need to read Alito's opinion too

mikeraskol fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jun 26, 2015

SlothBear
Jan 25, 2009

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Scalia used the term "tall-building lawyer" which is cool and funnier than "white shoe"

Also makes a lot more sense.

Look Sir Droids
Jan 27, 2015

The tracks go off in this direction.

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Scalia used the term "tall-building lawyer" which is cool and funnier than "white shoe"

I hope this starts a building dick measuring contest between big firms, assuming one doesn't already exist.

mikeraskol
May 3, 2006

Oh yeah. I was killing you.

Look Sir Droids posted:

I hope this starts a building dick measuring contest between big firms, assuming one doesn't already exist.

It exists already for sure. When we do interviews with prospective summers the location, style and accommodations of the office compared to other firms comes up all the time.

mikeraskol fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Jun 26, 2015

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

ActusRhesus posted:

Yeah, the prose was a little over the top. But how do you rule against gay marriage on equal protection grounds when a fuckton of cases say marriage is a fundamental right.

I thought it was decided on due process? And then I saw a Lochner reference and gave up trying to understand what's written because I'm pretty sure that no one, including the justices, knows how all that crap works.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

mastershakeman posted:

I'm pretty sure that no one, including the justices, knows how [Author'r note: or cares all that much] all that crap works.

The fact that every opinion isn't 9-0 is basically proof of this.

Omerta
Feb 19, 2007

I thought short arms were good for benching :smith:

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Scalia used the term "tall-building lawyer" which is cool and funnier than "white shoe"

It's my favorite phrase to gently caress with out of town attorneys. Always a good way to set the tone: "So, you one of them tall-building lawyers?"

Way better than white shoe.

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zzyzx
Mar 2, 2004

Roberts makes a reasonable sounding appeal to judicial restraint that I happen to disagree with, but holy poo poo, Scalia. Preach it, you crazy bastard.

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