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Disco Infiva posted:This one? Yep, thanks, it's particularly topical today. Good job guys  (edit: or maybe  is more appropriate in this case)
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Guavanaut posted:Want to see what this looks like in 20 years time. Get your poo poo together Eastern Hemisphere.
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Jun 26, 2015 22:21
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Guavanaut posted:Want to see what this looks like in 20 years time. So, if dark blue is complete marriage equality, light blue is civil partnership and that brown yellow crap color is intends to legalize same-sex marriage.. What is that green-blue thing in Mexico?
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Jun 26, 2015 22:27
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Disco Infiva posted:So, if dark blue is complete marriage equality, light blue is civil partnership and that brown yellow crap color is intends to legalize same-sex marriage.. That means it's not performed in that place but recognized if performed elsewhere. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:World_marriage-equality_laws.svg
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Jun 26, 2015 22:30
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Get your poo poo together Eastern Hemisphere.  ). I'd laugh so hard if Syria and Iraq got it post ISIS.
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Jun 26, 2015 22:33
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Taiwan will probably have marriage equality within a decade, making it the first in Asia.
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Jun 27, 2015 06:29
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As I understand it, homosexuality is pretty well accepted in Japan but there's been no big push for marriage equality for whatever reason.
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Jun 27, 2015 07:58
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In East Asia the purpose of marriage is to produce children. That's an oversimplification but ideas of marriage are different and the idea of marriage as a desirable state in and of itself might not compute the same way.
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Jun 27, 2015 08:22
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Speaking of Asia, how popular China is globally, vs. the USA From the Pew Center, which has a lot of interesting map-based social data http://www.pewglobal.org
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Jun 27, 2015 08:47
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IntricoInutile posted:Speaking of Asia, how popular China is globally, vs. the USA It's a pretty predictable map. I guess China is not all that popular in many of these places, but the Argentinians, Russians and Pakistanis have more or less good reasons to dislike the USA, same with the Middle East countries besides Israel. I'm surprised by Turkey, and if you look up the numbers, 29% of the Turks have a favorable view of the USA, with 58% having an unfavorable view. What did China do to be disliked even more (18% positive, 59% negative)? Also, what's up with Malaysia bucking the trend and liking China more than the USA?
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Jun 27, 2015 09:02
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Torrannor posted:It's a pretty predictable map. I guess China is not all that popular in many of these places, but the Argentinians, Russians and Pakistanis have more or less good reasons to dislike the USA, same with the Middle East countries besides Israel. I'm surprised by Turkey, and if you look up the numbers, 29% of the Turks have a favorable view of the USA, with 58% having an unfavorable view. What did China do to be disliked even more (18% positive, 59% negative)? Turks see Uyghurs as closely related to them, and a number of Uyghurs fleeing China for political reasons seek refuge in Turkey. I'm gonna guess Turkey doesn't like China because of their ethnic tension with Uyghurs. No clue on Malaysia, though. I know they have a large Chinese minority, but so do most other countries in that region and that hasn't helped China's reputation in those countries.
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Jun 27, 2015 09:26
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Pakled posted:No clue on Malaysia, though. I know they have a large Chinese minority, but so do most other countries in that region and that hasn't helped China's reputation in those countries.
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Jun 27, 2015 09:40
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It's interesting that Vietnam thinks more highly of the US than of China. On the other hand, they were invaded by the latter as well and there is a lot of historical bad blood. Meanwhile, Argentina really is not taking their recent dispute with US creditors well.
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Jun 27, 2015 12:33
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Mystic_Shadow posted:Doggerland Oh hey, here's a fresh new article about population density during the ice age: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2015/06/17/1503784112.abstract People/100km² - 13000, 23000 and 30000 years ago: 
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Jun 27, 2015 12:51
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Kennel posted:People/100km² - 13000, 23000 and 30000 years ago:  e: Or to put it in a politically loaded map format:  The Finnish language scares me 
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Jun 27, 2015 12:59
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Guavanaut posted:
So why does the first one suggest that Danish and Norwegian are more closely related whereas the second one puts Danish and Swedish as more closely related with Norwegian instead being paired with Icelandic? Phlegmish posted:It's interesting that Vietnam thinks more highly of the US than of China. On the other hand, they were invaded by the latter as well and there is a lot of historical bad blood. My guess would be that unlike China the US doesn't actually occupy any lands that used to be part of/ are claimed by Vietnam. a pipe smoking dog fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Jun 27, 2015 |
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Jun 27, 2015 13:59
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Guavanaut posted:
Ha! I always said that our version of German in Saxony-Anhalt was a pure version of High German, thanks for confirming it.
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Jun 27, 2015 14:10
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Phlegmish posted:It's interesting that Vietnam thinks more highly of the US than of China. On the other hand, they were invaded by the latter as well and there is a lot of historical bad blood. Most countries dislike neighbors more 
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Jun 27, 2015 14:32
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re: Doggerland post Really good. I'm super interested in changing sea levels and their effects on human history and pre-history. Thanks for posting, looking forward to anything else you want to do (more of this!).
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Jun 27, 2015 14:33
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a pipe smoking dog posted:So why does the first one suggest that Danish and Norwegian are more closely related whereas the second one puts Danish and Swedish as more closely related with Norwegian instead being paired with Icelandic? History. Icelandic is basically medieval Norwegian so they originate from the same West Norse family, while modern Norwegian is heavily influenced by its Scandinavian neighbor languages.
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Jun 27, 2015 14:41
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a pipe smoking dog posted:So why does the first one suggest that Danish and Norwegian are more closely related whereas the second one puts Danish and Swedish as more closely related with Norwegian instead being paired with Icelandic? The map of Germany has a similar situation going on, vastly exaggerating the level of dialectal variation, since Prussia did a pretty fine job at standardizing High German across its territories. The Low German dialects were basically reduced to the North Low German area, and even there they're a clear minority.
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Jun 27, 2015 14:53
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a pipe smoking dog posted:So why does the first one suggest that Danish and Norwegian are more closely related whereas the second one puts Danish and Swedish as more closely related with Norwegian instead being paired with Icelandic? It might be that Norwegian and Swedish are more closely related in a genealogical sense, while Danish has had a bigger direct influence on Norwegian in the past five or six centuries. Denmark-Norway used to be a thing and Norway's urban elites were heavily Danified in this period, which contributed to that country's current linguistic issues. You have two written standards in Norway: Bokmål, which is very similar to Danish and dominant in most of the country, and Nynorsk, which is a more 'pure' Norwegian preferred mostly in rural areas of Western Norway. Here is the officially used standard per municipality, where blue is Nynorsk, red is Bokmål and grey is neutral:  I'm not Norwegian, but I get the impression that Bokmål has always had the sociological upper hand while Nynorsk was developed as a nationalist, working-class reaction against this. The result is that you end up with the slightly absurd situation of a modern nation-state of barely five million people whose inhabitants nearly all speak dialects or variants of Norwegian yet which lacks a single unified standard for that language.
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Jun 27, 2015 14:54
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Phlegmish posted:It's interesting that Vietnam thinks more highly of the US than of China. On the other hand, they were invaded by the latter as well and there is a lot of historical bad blood. I think it's a bit dangerous to just wave it away as history, especially when it's to do with current events. There is (perhaps surprisingly) little animosity from the Vietnamese to the US due to the Vietnam War. because they won
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Jun 27, 2015 15:27
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IntricoInutile posted:Speaking of Asia, how popular China is globally, vs. the USA I was interested to see Australia in gray, rather than blue. It turns out they just like both countries: 63-28 favorable/unfavorable split for US, 57-33 for China. High fives for everybody from Australia. May have something to do with seeing China as an export market in a way most of the first world does not, I dunno. Not surprising at all, but still kind of funny, is China's 9-89 split in Japan.
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Jun 27, 2015 15:41
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Phlegmish posted:It's interesting that Vietnam thinks more highly of the US than of China. On the other hand, they were invaded by the latter as well and there is a lot of historical bad blood. I think I read on this very forum about someone visiting the Vietnamese museum about the Vietnam war and he described the Vietnamese attitude towards the war and America as very laconic: "they invaded us, we fought em, then we beat them and they left". Apparently there really isn't much bad blood from Vietnam towards the US over the whole thing, probably because they won.
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Jun 27, 2015 16:20
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They also don't really view it as a specific US war the way the US does. For Vietnam it was one continuous war for independence, first against France, then the US, and finally China.
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Jun 27, 2015 16:26
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Kennel posted:Oh hey, here's a fresh new article about population density during the ice age: I'm not an expert on this particular topic, but I know there was a wide variance in the population density amounts presented in those sources I gave. I went with the more conservative figures, though the dissertation source does mention Doggerland could have supported way more than 1 person per kilometer squared. From a climate angle, the distribution of those populations in the figure you showed seems about right.
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Jun 27, 2015 16:29
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Wow I always forget just how few people there were alive in prehistoric times. Are there any maps like that for other parts of the world?
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Jun 27, 2015 16:31
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Koramei posted:Wow I always forget just how few people there were alive in prehistoric times. Are there any maps like that for other parts of the world? 
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Jun 27, 2015 16:42
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I did not know southwest Africa is so sparsely populated.
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Jun 27, 2015 17:04
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Orange Devil posted:I did not know southwest Africa is so sparsely populated. It's a desert.
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Jun 27, 2015 17:11
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Orange Devil posted:I did not know southwest Africa is so sparsely populated. Most deserts are. Isn't the Kalahari one of the driest?
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Well, the Kalahari is larger than I was aware of then. I learned something, a good map.
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Jun 27, 2015 17:15
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Orange Devil posted:I did not know southwest Africa is so sparsely populated. 
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Jun 27, 2015 17:33
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Guavanaut posted:With that username and flag, I had to double check you weren't using a loaded term for Namibia Hah, I'd think that'd apply more if I were German no? Also apparently there are 2 deserts which pretty much border each other and Wikipedia makes Namibia read like a pretty cool place which, if it gets HIV and malaria under control, could really do quite well for itself. Please nobody crush my spirit here with either tales of incredible government corruption and/or neocolonial fuckery.
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Jun 27, 2015 17:37
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Orange Devil posted:Hah, I'd think that'd apply more if I were German no? 
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Jun 27, 2015 17:43
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Guavanaut posted:Well, there was that whole thing from 1915–1990. Ah well you see the orange white blue flag displayed in my avatar is the Prinsenvlag used by the Dutch fascist party in the 30s and 40s over which is displayed a contemporary Dutch fascist also seen laughing it up with the liberal PM he had been helping keep in power during a broadcast of a 'youth news' episode last elections. So clearly those are totally different things which for whatever reason have seized on to the same colonial symbolism of my country's past. Avatar brought to you by the kindly purchase of an ironic Dutch Thread (over in SAL) poster.
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Orange Devil posted:Also apparently there are 2 deserts which pretty much border each other and Wikipedia makes Namibia read like a pretty cool place which, if it gets HIV and malaria under control, could really do quite well for itself.
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Orange Devil posted:Hah, I'd think that'd apply more if I were German no? Also apparently there are 2 deserts which pretty much border each other and Wikipedia makes Namibia read like a pretty cool place which, if it gets HIV and malaria under control, could really do quite well for itself. It's still a resource extraction country and employment's apparently pretty bad but it's got the "low population, natural protection, and close to a major economic power" factors checked so if/when Subsaharan Africa industrializes in a major way it'll probably be one of the notable success stories.
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computer parts posted:It's still a resource extraction country and employment's apparently pretty bad but it's got the "low population, natural protection, and close to a major economic power" factors checked so if/when Subsaharan Africa industrializes in a major way it'll probably be one of the notable success stories. 
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