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Raskolnikov38 posted:Really want to know how those two were picked to package together for a honorary dinner name They started the Democratic party.
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Jun 27, 2015 01:56
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alliteration.
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Joementum posted:They started the Democratic party. I was going to argue about Jefferson but I think a much better point is why the post 1960s DNC didn't start pretending it was a whole 'new' party after the civil war.
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Jun 27, 2015 01:58
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I was going to argue about Jefferson but I think a much better point is why the post 1960s DNC didn't start pretending it was a whole 'new' party after the civil war. Name recognition. It's basically the reason the GOP isn't calling themselves the Tea Party this year.
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Jun 27, 2015 02:01
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I imagine maintaining some connection to old Founding Fathers is also considered valuable, at least at some level. Even the Communist Party had "Lincoln-Lenin days"!
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Jun 27, 2015 02:18
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Everything most Americans know about Jackson is on the $20 bill.
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Jun 27, 2015 02:51
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Joementum posted:Yeah, the founders of the Democratic party would probably not vote for its current candidates. I'd like to think the same about the original Republicans, but they did shelter any number of former Know-Nothings among their ranks.
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Sir Tonk posted:Everything most Americans know about Jackson is on the $20 bill. And that he chased down an assassin and beat him with a cane.
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Jun 27, 2015 03:47
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I was going to argue about Jefferson but I think a much better point is why the post 1960s DNC didn't start pretending it was a whole 'new' party after the civil war. Because a whole lot of white dems in the south still stuck with the party despite the civil rights realignment.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I was going to argue about Jefferson but I think a much better point is why the post 1960s DNC didn't start pretending it was a whole 'new' party after the civil war. It's not like Woodrow Wilson was much better either. I guess Grover Cleveland was okay except "welp we own Hawaii now so I guess I can't do anything about it".
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Jun 27, 2015 06:50
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Weird they're celebrating Andrew Jackson, when the GOP is the one in tears.
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Jun 27, 2015 09:17
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Christie's site is up https://www.chrischristie.com/
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I think we've found the campaign website equivalent of the Myspace angle
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Jun 27, 2015 14:18
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 So wait, is this a standup special or a presidential run?
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Jun 27, 2015 14:21
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Useless Shotgun posted:
You really think there's a difference? 
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Jun 27, 2015 14:22
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I hope that's his campaign logo. He's such a rebel 
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Jun 27, 2015 14:38
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What is the deal with airline industry regulation? They say do this and don't do that and yada yada yada...can't we just get government out of the way so they can just build the planes out of the same material as the black boxes?
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FuriousxGeorge posted:What is the deal with airline industry regulation? They say do this and don't do that and yada yada yada...can't we just get government out of the way so they can just build the planes out of the same material as the black boxes? Some Common Sense at last!
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Jun 27, 2015 14:57
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Okay, with a slogan like this, he better loving deliver.
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Jun 27, 2015 17:23
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So can we get this embedded into the thread yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0
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Jun 27, 2015 17:24
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So what's the deal with food? /seinfeld
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Useless Shotgun posted:
Is Lewis Black going to open for him?
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Personally I can't wait for Christie to start up some 'straight talking.' Repulsion guaranteed.
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Christie soured all of his Sandy goodwill almost immediately. I'm not sure he could even win here in Jersey just two years later.
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Useless Shotgun posted:
*Curb Your Enthusiasm theme plays*
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Honest to God, I've thought about it, and what the gently caress does Chris Christie think he brings to the table that none of the other clownshows already in the race bring? Trump's in, so the role of "idiot blowhard" is even taken. What's Christie's niche?
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Useless Shotgun posted:
he's a perfect example of fat america i like it
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Alter Ego posted:Honest to God, I've thought about it, and what the gently caress does Chris Christie think he brings to the table that none of the other clownshows already in the race bring? Trump's in, so the role of "idiot blowhard" is even taken. What's Christie's niche? Attitude.
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Alter Ego posted:Honest to God, I've thought about it, and what the gently caress does Chris Christie think he brings to the table that none of the other clownshows already in the race bring? Trump's in, so the role of "idiot blowhard" is even taken. What's Christie's niche? I think he's entering to suck up votes (or polling, since neither will make it that far) from Trump in NH. If Christie can bump Trump from #2 in NH to #4 or so, Trump may take his ball and go home. That'll earn him some party favors.
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Alter Ego posted:Honest to God, I've thought about it, and what the gently caress does Chris Christie think he brings to the table that none of the other clownshows already in the race bring? Trump's in, so the role of "idiot blowhard" is even taken. What's Christie's niche? That's the hosed up thing. The more people that enter the race the more attractive it is to join. Christie's probably thinking" I only need another 15% and I'll be the frontrunner". Its quite possible he'll start heading the pols in the days after his announcement. Dont forget, a 5% chance of winning the primary is huge. If you had 5% chance of winning the lottery you'd be pretty excited right?
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Jun 27, 2015 18:13
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Alter Ego posted:Honest to God, I've thought about it, and what the gently caress does Chris Christie think he brings to the table that none of the other clownshows already in the race bring? Trump's in, so the role of "idiot blowhard" is even taken. What's Christie's niche? All important feeder demographic.
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Alter Ego posted:Honest to God, I've thought about it, and what the gently caress does Chris Christie think he brings to the table that none of the other clownshows already in the race bring? Trump's in, so the role of "idiot blowhard" is even taken. What's Christie's niche? Moxie :iamafag:
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Alter Ego posted:Honest to God, I've thought about it, and what the gently caress does Chris Christie think he brings to the table that none of the other clownshows already in the race bring? Trump's in, so the role of "idiot blowhard" is even taken. What's Christie's niche? They're different kinds of idiot blowhards. Trump bangs his silver spoon on the table and shouts racist slurs and says "I started many a successful business, you jelly?" whereas Christie has more of an incompetent mob boss thing for him.
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Aliquid posted:I think he's entering to suck up votes (or polling, since neither will make it that far) from Trump in NH. If Christie can bump Trump from #2 in NH to #4 or so, Trump may take his ball and go home. That'll earn him some party favors. I think you're overestimating the organization of the GOP and the extent to which major politicians would make decisions about their own careers for some nebulous long-term gain with the party.
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Christie/Trump
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Well poo poo, Ted Cruz better catch up and get his gratuitous eagle glamour shot ASAP
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Trump Place, Manhattan: you're fired!
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