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Production
Jun 11, 2001

Maxwell Lord posted:

Man, even if I saw this without any context I would assume this guy was some kind of douche. Why is it always so obvious?

Wesley Morganston, in character as a precocious but overly precious young Wes Anderson, in the Wes Anderson biopic, written and directed by Wes Anderson.

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Yeah but Wes Anderson isn't a reactionary rear end in a top hat.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Production posted:

Wesley Morganston, in character as a precocious but overly precious young Wes Anderson, in the Wes Anderson biopic, written and directed by Wes Anderson.

Let's be fair here. Wes Anderson graduated college. Wesley Morganston got kicked out of college for being too racist.

Said college let a guy who made bomb threats stay enrolled, incidentally.

Production
Jun 11, 2001

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Let's be fair here. Wes Anderson graduated college. Wesley Morganston got kicked out of college for being too racist.

Said college let a guy who made bomb threats stay enrolled, incidentally.

I like Wes Anderson. I was just saying that if you told me that picture was of a young Wes Anderson, I'd believe it, and that made me think: a boyish man with a different decade's suit and haircut who cultivates an aesthetic involving old colonial flags and racist memorabilia would probably fit into most of his movies, so it amazes me that they really exist.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



neonnoodle posted:

Yeah I phrased my post badly -- I didn't mean that LLR is a neoreactionary of the same movement, but rather that he's an example of what happens when people and their batshitinsane ideology become cults unto themselves. Like I could see Moldbug and his followers becoming similar. That certainly has happened to a degree with Paul Elam.

Every couple years around election season, the local LaRouche group get out their metal folding chairs and sit on the street corner near the post office with signs for a week or so, talking to anyone who walks by. Because of their Anti-Obama slant, they get a fair number of people who think they're going to be chatting with friends and Republicaning it up.

It's magical :allears:


Not my photo, but it looks pretty much like this

Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN

Production posted:

I like Wes Anderson. I was just saying that if you told me that picture was of a young Wes Anderson, I'd believe it, and that made me think: a boyish man with a different decade's suit and haircut who cultivates an aesthetic involving old colonial flags and racist memorabilia would probably fit into most of his movies, so it amazes me that they really exist.

I was going to say that it's hard to score a wistful but beautiful scene to German marching music, but then I remembered that Mo Tucker from the Velvet Underground is a Tea Partier now.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


divabot posted:

While we're here, enjoy Moldbug's poetry.



You would think someone who jerks off to CLASSICAL EUROPEAN CULTURE would use a loving rhyme scheme or some recognizable meter.

God drat the :words: is killing me, he just rambles on and on with no structure or rhythm.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Good news, you can hear him read it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aa2UJX_EpQ

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler

Woolie Wool posted:

You would think someone who jerks off to CLASSICAL EUROPEAN CULTURE would use a loving rhyme scheme or some recognizable meter.
Well he has shamelessly cribbed a bunch of lines from The Second Coming for his lovely poem. The center cannot hold! Anarchy! Gyre! I guess the idea is that the reader might be reminded of a better poem when reading it, but it just heightens the contrast between Yeats's good poem and whatever Moldbug's trying to do here. Like how your teeth look yellower in the mirror when you brush with white toothpaste, or the Casablanca references in Overdrawn at the Memory Bank.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

That was the 1997 Yarvin, who smiled and stuff. This is 2012 Srs Moldbug, who had those facial muscles severed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZluMysK2B1E

He actually looked less chinless with long hair.

Of course, he's got the eloquence of Dickens compared to his fans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNN1Saf4_rg

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:

Overdrawn at the Memory Bank.
Thank you for this. From now on I'm going to imagine that Moldbug is Aram Fingal, with an irrational hatred of anteaters.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

neonnoodle posted:

Thank you for this. From now on I'm going to imagine that Moldbug is Aram Fingal, with an irrational hatred of anteaters.

Let's be honest here, he's totally the Chairman

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
If I'm going to be the very model of a modern Dark Enlightenment pundit, I feel I should know more than I do about James A. Donald (JAD, http://blog.jim.com/ ), the guy so racist even Eric S. Raymond calls him a racist and such an rear end in a top hat even Slate Star Codex regularly bans him from commenting. He comes out with such gems as "National socialism kills people not because it is nationalist, but because it is socialist" and calls white nationalism "moderate leftism". And he has important information on the Jews. I don't think I've ever seen a non-rear end in a top hat word from him, though I will credit him with enough sense to realise Bitcoin was unscalable from day one. But I know nothing actually about him. What's his deal? What's the full Aurini on JAD?

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Merdifex
May 13, 2015

by Shine

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Conspiracy theorists are basically social-science/political-science creationists: they refuse to accept that any collective phenomenon could appear without an intelligent designer, in this case, some kind of hidden cabal pulling strings behind the scenes.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Conspiracy theorists are basically social-science/political-science creationists: they refuse to accept that any collective phenomenon could appear without an intelligent designer, in this case, some kind of hidden cabal pulling strings behind the scenes.

I mean in this case there even is a "designer" - all of these logos are carefully crafted, deliberate marketing moves made by cold, soulless marketing departments in response to the news. It's just that "we live in a consumerist hellscape where everything with any meaning can and will be boiled down to a marketing campaign to promote airline tickets and clickbait garbage" is a much less sexy idea than some secret conspiracy to control these poor companies and therefore control the world or whatever.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

I mean in this case there even is a "designer" - all of these logos are carefully crafted, deliberate marketing moves made by cold, soulless marketing departments in response to the news. It's just that "we live in a consumerist hellscape where everything with any meaning can and will be boiled down to a marketing campaign to promote airline tickets and clickbait garbage" is a much less sexy idea than some secret conspiracy to control these poor companies and therefore control the world or whatever.

That's my point, though. There isn't a designer, or coordination; instead, there's just several marketing/PR departments independently jumping on this using well-worn cliches. It's not some cabal turning one lever. But they are unable to move beyond ascribing unitary agency to related phenomena.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Nobody actually approves of gay marriage, this is all just propaganda. I'm just asking questions.

ClarkHat is the lesser Popehat. Has he explicitly come out neoreactionary yet, or is he still pulling an SSC and just spending all his time hanging out with them and talking about their ideas?

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


I was trying to get through my Schadenfreude backlog, and stumbled across the platonic form of the Dark Enlightenment. James Sears. He's an insane PUA who goes under the pseudonym 'Dmitri the Lover' when running seminars on how to sexually harass women. Aside from that, he's also some weird breed of Neo-Nazi. According to his political party's website (which is worth a read, because it's great.)

quote:

The New Constitution Party of Canada (NCP) is an all-inclusive federal party based on Libertarian doctrine, Christian values, and National Socialist ideology. Our political movement incorporates the intellect of Dr. Ron Paul, the heart of Chancellor Adolf Hitler, and the soul of Jesus Christ, into one powerful political Chimera that will crush the Marxist beast.

Our basic tenet is that we are one nation under God, composed of founders of many races and religions. God grants us Dominion over the Earth, including all plants and animals on it. In exchange, we must be responsible stewards of God’s project, and unite to protect his creation from the dark, Satanic armies of Marxism.

See more here and here.

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx
Cultural Marxism, cultural Marxism... It sounds so familiar, where have I heard that before...

Freudian
Mar 23, 2011


Sidenote, this is my favourite of the Slap A Rainbow On It logos:

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

neonnoodle posted:

Cultural Marxism, cultural Marxism... It sounds so familiar, where have I heard that before...

Here, get your cultural marxism straight from the vile pit of SJWs. With the original I BET THE JEWS DID THIS version of the "Cathedral" chart Anissimov posted so enthusiastically.

Haven't seen many NRx lamenting "sexual Bolshevism", they're leaving that to the most rabid of the neo-Nazis. Even Metapedia doesn't go for that one.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

divabot posted:

Nobody actually approves of gay marriage, this is all just propaganda. I'm just asking questions.

ClarkHat is the lesser Popehat. Has he explicitly come out neoreactionary yet, or is he still pulling an SSC and just spending all his time hanging out with them and talking about their ideas?

He's WAY more into it than even SSC guy is.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Tiberius Thyben posted:

I was trying to get through my Schadenfreude backlog, and stumbled across the platonic form of the Dark Enlightenment. James Sears. He's an insane PUA who goes under the pseudonym 'Dmitri the Lover' when running seminars on how to sexually harass women. Aside from that, he's also some weird breed of Neo-Nazi. According to his political party's website (which is worth a read, because it's great.)


See more here and here.

LOL "the intellect of Dr. Ron Paul."

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

The Vosgian Beast posted:

He's WAY more into it than even SSC guy is.

Oh, I know he is - at least with Scott Alexander it's 'cos NRx are linked to his real-life social circle. ClarkHat keeps spouting NRx-isms and things that would be dog whistles except we can hear them just fine, then flatly denying being NRx.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Today we learned that social media interns believe in marriage equality.

DEKH
Jan 4, 2014

divabot posted:

Nobody actually approves of gay marriage, this is all just propaganda. I'm just asking questions.

ClarkHat is the lesser Popehat. Has he explicitly come out neoreactionary yet, or is he still pulling an SSC and just spending all his time hanging out with them and talking about their ideas?

He's an anarchist capitalist who thinks Abraham Lincoln was our worst US president. Also Vox Day is just misunderstood. Make your own conclusions.

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment
Most of their objections to feminism boil down to: "Women have agency and rights in modern society and they exercise those rights solely to avoid sleeping with me and it can't be because I smell and look like a beached whale that's been rotting in the sun for a month, so feminism is one of the worst things to ever exist!" :qqsay:

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

divabot posted:

Here, get your cultural marxism straight from the vile pit of SJWs. With the original I BET THE JEWS DID THIS version of the "Cathedral" chart Anissimov posted so enthusiastically.

Haven't seen many NRx lamenting "sexual Bolshevism", they're leaving that to the most rabid of the neo-Nazis. Even Metapedia doesn't go for that one.

Someone described it to me as "Cultural Marxism is what you call it when capitalism and democracy are still the law of the land, but they don't work exclusively for you anymore" and that makes sense to me.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Tiberius Thyben posted:

I was trying to get through my Schadenfreude backlog, and stumbled across the platonic form of the Dark Enlightenment. James Sears. He's an insane PUA who goes under the pseudonym 'Dmitri the Lover' when running seminars on how to sexually harass women. Aside from that, he's also some weird breed of Neo-Nazi. According to his political party's website (which is worth a read, because it's great.)


See more here and here.

These guys HQ is really close to where I live. I used to go by it all the time on the bus, and could see the stuff they posted in the widows, which was all kinds of crazy. They are also anti-vaxxers and for a few days had a picture that literally said "Hitler did nothing wrong, Zionists blame him for what they did". That was gone really quickly, probably because people in the Upper Beaches area of Toronto didn't want litearlly Neo-Nazi's being that blatant. They must have some members who have money, because their HQ is pretty large and in a good area of Toronto, which isn't a cheap city to rent store space.

A few months ago they put a flyer that was all full of crazy in my neighborhoods mail boxes. I took a picture of the cover
http://i.imgur.com/j2ItsPU.jpg Just read that.

I wish I had taken some pictures of the inside, because it just got crazier from there. Wonderful articles claiming "We don't hate Jews, we just hate the COMMIE ZIONISTS who control the banks!" and "we're not racists, we just think white people deserve to be recognized for their contributions to world". Also about the Beaches Jazz fest about how the COMMIE FAT CATS bring in too many musicians that aren't local to squeeze out the local musicians, who always get screwed because the ZIONISTS won't let their music be heard". The craziest was this picture of all these saintly old people and the caption "These are the leaders of White Pride, they're called racists, but they'd never hurt anyone". I capitalized because that's what the writers did in the articles with those phrases.

It spun out of something called Your Ward News, which was known as being extremely racist, homophobic, misogynist and anti-Semitic.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

DarklyDreaming posted:

Someone described it to me as "Cultural Marxism is what you call it when capitalism and democracy are still the law of the land, but they don't work exclusively for you anymore" and that makes sense to me.

See also the anger every time a Pax Dickinson or Chuck C Johnson sees any kind of penalty for spewing bullshit.

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

Klaus88 posted:

Most of their objections to feminism boil down to: "Women have agency and rights in modern society and they exercise those rights solely to avoid sleeping with me and it can't be because I smell and look like a beached whale that's been rotting in the sun for a month continually get pissbaby buttmad about how much I hate the vapid whores, so feminism is one of the worst things to ever exist!" :qqsay:
Because to be fair, they don't ALL look like whale carcasses, but there's definitely a unifying feature going on here

edit: theoretically they might not look like whale carcasses, I try to avoid storing any concept of what these people look like in my memory

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx
"All those frigid sluts won't appreciate how much I respect them, those cunts!"

No contradictions in that ideology, sir. Five stars.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

InediblePenguin posted:

Because to be fair, they don't ALL look like whale carcasses, but there's definitely a unifying feature going on here

edit: theoretically they might not look like whale carcasses, I try to avoid storing any concept of what these people look like in my memory

They can also look like Borat or twink Anton LaVey. Sometimes just like older dads or uncles in polos with grey beards, if you expand it to include men mad about their divorces.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Be careful though, making fun of the appearance of people like the dude above, who, it should be noted, wrote a blogpost about how women who suffer domestic abuse always deserve it, instantly makes you much worse than them.

Scott Alexander says so.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

twistedmentat posted:

A few months ago they put a flyer that was all full of crazy in my neighborhoods mail boxes. I took a picture of the cover
http://i.imgur.com/j2ItsPU.jpg Just read that.

it "offended" him as a "Jew"

EDIT: Mods please change my name to "ZioMarxist Deprogramming" tia

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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


You know how serial killers are always the nice friendly quiet guy nobody ever suspected?

Every single person's picture in this thread is like the opposite of that, they look exactly like I'd expect.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Be careful though, making fun of the appearance of people like the dude above, who, it should be noted, wrote a blogpost about how women who suffer domestic abuse always deserve it, instantly makes you much worse than them.
Scott Alexander says so.

I met Scott Alexander a few years ago. Despite the increasingly unremitting awfulness of his blog, he's actually ridiculously nice in person. He projects a Niceness Field that increases the surface tone of all conversations around him, and makes you feel bad about calling him out unless you can make a really good argument right then and there in real time. This may explain how his blog got like it did: I hypothesise that nobody he's on speaking terms with will tell him to his face when he's full of it, so he assumes the Internet response is an aberration.

You wouldn't have a link handy to the precise post where Scott says that, perchance? Does he say it about Forney specifically, or just nerdy-looking misogynists in general? I could dredge through SSC for it myself, but you understand I'd rather stab myself in the face. Also feminism is literally Voldemort, per this Tumblr post Scott thought was mean.

DarklyDreaming posted:

Someone described it to me as "Cultural Marxism is what you call it when capitalism and democracy are still the law of the land, but they don't work exclusively for you anymore" and that makes sense to me.

Yeah, but that doesn't explain the Beatles, at all. DOES IT NOW Mr Marxist-Zionist-APOLOGIST!!

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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

divabot posted:

I met Scott Alexander a few years ago. Despite the increasingly unremitting awfulness of his blog, he's actually ridiculously nice in person. He projects a Niceness Field that increases the surface tone of all conversations around him, and makes you feel bad about calling him out unless you can make a really good argument right then and there in real time. This may explain how his blog got like it did: I hypothesise that nobody he's on speaking terms with will tell him to his face when he's full of it, so he assumes the Internet response is an aberration.

You wouldn't have a link handy to the precise post where Scott says that, perchance? Does he say it about Forney specifically, or just nerdy-looking misogynists in general? I could dredge through SSC for it myself, but you understand I'd rather stab myself in the face. Also feminism is literally Voldemort, per this Tumblr post Scott thought was mean.

He seems nice in a Into The Woods "You're not good, you're not bad, you're just nice" way.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/23/links-1114-i-link-therefore-i-am/ Here it is. Scott gets angry at people for making negative comments about a guy who jumped on the gamergate bandwagon to promote his political goals.

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