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Shimrod posted:They have an additional digital one mate, generally shows instead of the Odo. At the time this happened (1999) that was how it worked for UK police - they had a calibrated speedo driven off the wheels, which measured average speed point-to-point, and that was the speed they had to charge you with (they selected a point and pressed a button as you passed it, then as they passed it, then did the same as you and they passed a second point, so it got rid of the "I had to do x to catch up" problem although obviously it was still fairly inaccurate). However the speedo was supposed to be calibrated at the beginning of every shift and they *never* did it, so it was trivial to get off, which is what happened for me. The other way was that if two officers agreed on what speed you were doing that, legally, was the same as a properly calibrated speed reading. Yeah.Now they let just one copper estimate the speed and although you're allowed to challenge that estimated speed they will royally gently caress you if you challenge and they win. Also speed cameras operated by local authorities rather than plod not only ignore ACPO guidelines (10% + 7mph), but also the MOT guidelines for speedo accuracy (5%) but even the allowed margin of error of the speed cameras. If they clock you at 30.1 mph they'll try and prosecute, and even though it's trivial to get it thrown out it's a loving pain in the arse.
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Here they have a xkm/h tolerance which is induced to become lower for holiday seasons, where cops with speed guns/in roving squad cars will ticket you for exceeding the limit by more than 4km/h, no exceptions. They also have other times that are emphasized as zero tolerance for any infraction. Usually extra cop cars are deployed on weekends with historically high road tolls and they all drive around watching everyone like hawks for the slightest infraction, dealing out a tremendous amount of tickets, none of which has any effect on road deaths (surprise!) whatsoever. Stationary cameras are just assumed to be reasonably accurate but their ability to successfully capture a speeding car is still hit-miss for the majority of them and the penalties are less (no instant license loss, no demerit points accrued). Plus they can't give you tickets for other stuff like out of date tax etc. When I read what I've just written it feels vaguely orwellian somehow.
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Jun 29, 2015 10:01
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Vaguely? This and your other posts make your land sound like a nanny state nightmare.
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Jun 29, 2015 10:42
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It's the price we pay for not shooting black people on sight I guess. Cops gotta have something to do.
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Jun 29, 2015 11:03
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I drive about 300 miles a week on average and I see ONE cop a week. We apparently have 3k officers in this city, but drat you never ever see them out. I saw a state trooper pull someone yesterday. First time I've seen a state trooper in probably six months.
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Jun 29, 2015 13:00
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Ola posted:A 1:85 scale Tesla Model S? Well it does involve a hand built 4HP samarium cobalt brushless motor 
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Jun 29, 2015 13:05
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Answer: McVeigh, Berkowitz, Bundy, Ramirez (almost) and a really long list of similar psychopaths. Question: Name a criminal brought down by cops of average intelligence through routine traffic stops and tickets.
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Jun 29, 2015 13:21
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OTOH, gently caress the police.
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Jun 29, 2015 13:25
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Well riding through a notorious motorcycle road (Deckers near Pine in CO) has made me feel really depressed about my skills. I thought I was riding decently fast but I was passed like 20 times in an hour. Granted, I'm on a very slow cruiser-like bike, but I could feel the skill differential too. I want the skill to drag knee on a mountain road, but I don't actually want to do it as I don't want to outride my sight lines or ability. Is starting at the basics at the track the only way to really get this poo poo down? Does every squid do this, or do they just have bigger balls than I do?
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Jun 29, 2015 14:19
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Track day. Don't try to learn how to drag a knee in the mountains/canyons by yourself (if you're draggin knee in public you're riding way too fast anyway). You need people with actual knowledge making sure you're not forming bad habits, giving you tailored advice, etc.
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Jun 29, 2015 14:34
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Marv Hushman posted:Answer: McVeigh, Berkowitz, Bundy, Ramirez (almost) and a really long list of similar psychopaths. Counter: the dummies that let Dahmer go.
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Jun 29, 2015 15:35
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Radbot posted:Well riding through a notorious motorcycle road (Deckers near Pine in CO) has made me feel really depressed about my skills. I thought I was riding decently fast but I was passed like 20 times in an hour. Granted, I'm on a very slow cruiser-like bike, but I could feel the skill differential too. Go to the track. They probably ride poo poo lines that promote lean angle and then reach for the touchdown. Dragging knee all over the place doesn't mean you're going quickly.
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Jun 29, 2015 15:37
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Washington state patrol trumps up traffic violations and opposes lane splitting legislation because it requires educating drivers. It's stupid. Last ticket I got was for "70+". The judge and I agreed that I could not have been going a range of speeds.
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Jun 29, 2015 15:42
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Marv Hushman posted:Answer: McVeigh, Berkowitz, Bundy, Ramirez (almost) and a really long list of similar psychopaths. Answer: We have no idea Question: How many serial killers have slipped past cops of average intelligence who stopped them for a routine traffic stop. That one cuts both ways old bean.
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Marv Hushman posted:Answer: McVeigh, Berkowitz, Bundy, Ramirez (almost) and a really long list of similar psychopaths. And Jim Fixx died of a heart attack while jogging. What does any of that have to do with the price of a prostitute at the temple of Hathor in Memphis, Egypt, 388 BCE? 
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Jun 29, 2015 16:43
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Hey man it's all connected man.
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Jun 29, 2015 17:10
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Radbot posted:Well riding through a notorious motorcycle road (Deckers near Pine in CO) has made me feel really depressed about my skills. I thought I was riding decently fast but I was passed like 20 times in an hour. Granted, I'm on a very slow cruiser-like bike, but I could feel the skill differential too. Yeah you can learn to do it on the street but the track is the safer, faster, easier option. More expensive though.
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Jun 29, 2015 17:33
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gently caress-ups in the process of loving up who need to be locked the gently caress up tend to overlook little details like tail lights and proper docs. I cited a few of the bigger fish that have been landed to counter earlier suggestions that this is done by GED holders purely for amusement and revenue generation, and provides no other benefit to society. Also LOL at the notion that aggressive/speeding assholes on two wheels or four pose no danger to the general public. If it was flagrant enough to warrant a ticket, you more than likely had it coming (myself included). Those whinging over technicalities and taking time off work to play Dershowitz for a Day generally can't pay the fine or are habitual offenders facing bus time.
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Jun 29, 2015 17:52
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So did my day of test rides, quick capsule reviews: GSX-S1000: "Hmm, bit dull really, nice and smooth though, let's just crack the thrHOLY loving poo poo". That happened to me half a dozen times, and I finally understand the appeal of big inline 4s - totally docile and controllable but just waiting to throw the horizon at you as soon as you ask. Handling was really sweet and neutral too, and it just felt completely weightless at low speeds. If i go Japanese this will definitely be the bike for me because I can't see any situation I'm ever likely to be in that it couldn't handle with absolute aplomb - but it can also put a poo poo-eating grin on my face with just a fraction of a second of full throttle. The only thing that really put me off was the width of the tank, but that feels like something I could get used to. MT-09:Meh, this is much more like what I was expecting a Japanese 4 to be like (yes I know it's a triple, shut up). The best that can be said is that opening the throttle makes the bike go faster, but a Striple manages to feel much faster despite giving up 200ccs and a dozen or so horses. Also the worst throttle response I've experienced on a twenty-first century bike, like first-gen EFI bad in one mode and badly-jetted carbs bad in the other. "Well you can fix that" said the dealer "but it does invalidate the warranty". Also are all Yamaha dealers pricks or am I just having really bad luck? I had to ring round 5 dealers to even get a test ride and the one I eventually got it off insisted on taking a thousand pound deposit and even then only let me have half an hour, on a used bike (with only 800 miles on the clock, possibly someone who realised just how loving bad the bike was after not being able to test ride one). It cornered okay, I suppose, but that loving horrible throttle response made smooth exits an impossibility. Also nobody gets to make the "It's built down to a price" excuse for any bike that costs £7.5k OTR. Z800: Come on guys I know you're called Kawasaki Heavy Industries but that's no excuse for making a midrange motorbike so heavy that there was a scooter orbiting it when I parked up. Seriously, it weighs 20 kilos more, dry, than the GSX-S, and seems to carry all of that weight somehow at a spot six inches above the top yoke. On the go it was actually a lot of fun (although that might have just been relief at no long being on the loving Yamaha), but that heaviness, and a tank and peg combination that made me feel like I was trying to give birth to a cow, just sucked all the fun out of it. So I've given the Japanese their day in court (also test-rode a CBF1000 a few months ago - copy and paste the GSX-S review only considerably less so), and... probably going to stick with the Shiver for now. I *might* try and swing a test-ride on a Brutale and a Monster for completeness, but I can't see either of them offering enough more than the shiver to justify the step-up in price. Also if I buy a new Shiver (and the new one does look pretty loving sexy) that will involve going into a room that may contain a Tuono and terrible things are likely to happen then.
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You should test ride a Tuono, a S1000R, and a SuperDuke. Just do it.
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Z3n posted:You should test ride a Tuono, a S1000R, and a SuperDuke. SuperDuke just doesn't appeal, the last few years models really have been pretty spectacularly ugly, and not in the interesting way the old ones were. I think you'll find the S1000 is a BMW and there's breath left in my body so that's out. Fortunately the Tuono doesn't come in black this year (or even red/black) so I'm probably immune to its charms.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:MT-09: ... Also the worst throttle response I've experienced on a twenty-first century bike, like first-gen EFI bad in one mode and badly-jetted carbs bad in the other. "Well you can fix that" said the dealer "but it does invalidate the warranty"... Isn't that the same as a FZ-09? Yamaha has a dealer-installed ECM flash for the awful throttle response on the FZ-09. It's supposed to be a lot better; they are putting the updated ECM software on all the new ones and the FJ-09. I call bullshit that it voids the warranty. The craptacular snatchy throttle was a major complaint I had about my Vstar 1300, too. Trying to maintain a steady throttle through a turn, just undulations in the road would effect it so much that it went from a little power to full on engine brake and back completely unpredicably. I had to feather the clutch all the way through 2nd gear in the city before I put on a O2 sensor resistor that did something to make it less bad.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:SuperDuke just doesn't appeal, the last few years models really have been pretty spectacularly ugly, and not in the interesting way the old ones were. I think you'll find the S1000 is a BMW and there's breath left in my body so that's out. Fortunately the Tuono doesn't come in black this year (or even red/black) so I'm probably immune to its charms. I mean, you should just go ride them because they're experiences you, as a motorcyclist, should have. The SD is a very unique bike all around, the S1000R is basically electrowizardry taken to the next level, and the Tuono sounds monster and is a beast as well. Yes, the SD isn't my favorite bike to look at but it's more than made up for by how it rides.
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Jun 29, 2015 18:56
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You don't see much of the bike from the saddle.
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clutchpuck posted:You don't see much of the bike from the saddle. The classic "when the lights are off, everyone looks the same" from a Buell owner.
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Jun 29, 2015 19:04
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You see even less of a Ducati 748 from the saddle. In fact you don't even see the bike, it's like you're floating over the road. But I must be making excuses for its ugly too eh
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Chichevache posted:The classic "when the lights are off, everyone looks the same" from a Buell owner. But they don't feel the same.  edit: clutchpuck posted:You see even less of a Ducati 748 from the saddle. In fact you don't even see the bike, it's like you're floating over the road. But I must be making excuses for its ugly too eh No, your schtick is being a Buell fan, come hell or high water. Please revise accordingly.
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clutchpuck posted:You don't see much of the bike from the saddle. Yeah but a big part of bikedom, for me, is when you park up and look back at it and go "That's a nice looking bike right there". It's why I got so hung up on stuff like the indicators and swingarm on the GSR750, which realistically make absolutely no difference to how the bike rides but absolutely ruined it for me.
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builds character posted:No, your schtick is being a Buell fan, come hell or high water. Please revise accordingly. I'll be the first to tell you my Uly is a fuggo uggo. Anyhow, I'm a fun motorcycle fan. Ain't my fault the Uly is the most fun, ever.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Yeah but a big part of bikedom, for me, is when you park up and look back at it and go "That's a nice looking bike right there". It's why I got so hung up on stuff like the indicators and swingarm on the GSR750, which realistically make absolutely no difference to how the bike rides but absolutely ruined it for me. Poser  Nah, I get that. That's why the CBX customizations. But you should still ride them, just so you can see what the dark side is like.
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So I am finally moving away from buying used bikes and I am going to purchase a new bike. My old bikes have done me well but I'm planning on picking up a cheap bike for around 5-6k. I want to finance it, not because I can't afford it outright but because I want to continue to build my credit. I live in California and it seems like all the financing options are such poo poo. First off its on average about 6% APR for motorcycle financing which is crazy. And secondly I've heard that I would need to get full coverage. I am terribly idiotic when it comes to these things and my google fu is failing me. When I go to get a quote from geico I can select comprehensive coverage with different levels of deductibles but would I also need collision and uninsured PD in addition to comprehensive? It just seems like a terrible idea to finance a bike, is this true?
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What sort of new bike are you planning on picking up for 5-6k and why? If you want to build credit you're going to want a larger loan. You will also need to get full coverage (collision, comprehensive, UIM, etc) because the financier expects to get something back if the bike is stolen/damaged. Look for promotional financing, and see about getting a credit union to do your financing. I think I have 4% on the SD through a local credit union.
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If you can afford it outright but still want to finance it for whatever reason, that might be a good case for a secured loan. If it's not a good deal less than 6% tell them to gently caress off with that.
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Z3n posted:What sort of new bike are you planning on picking up for 5-6k and why? SR400 because I am a big dumb idiot, and nothing can change my mind. Ugh it just seems like I should buy it outright. I am beefing my credit a number of ways, I already have really really good credit but I want better credit darnit! I have an auto loan for more right now as well. But I figured if I was going to get a bike might as well get good credit too, but it just seems like the hidden cost in the insurance requirements make it a bad bad idea.
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Knifegrab posted:SR400 because I am a big dumb idiot, and nothing can change my mind. If you're already beefing your credit in other ways, just buy it outright. You should have full coverage on it though, regardless - it should be pretty cheap. Shop around.
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You probably want comp, collision, and UIM PD anyway even if you don't have it financed. Those aren't really hidden costs as much as you'd be an idiot not to have them costs. Building your credit requires passage of time as much time as it does actually using your credit, account age is a not-insignificant factor. Young credit accounts tend to actually hurt it.
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Again, I am a big dumb idiot. I assumed comp was kind of worthless. Where I keep my bike I am just about completely unworried of theft, and outside of that I don't see the point of comp. UIM PD, I suppose makes sense and obviously I do want collision. I would probably get a relatively low-level bodily injury, property, and medical expesnes, but get a somewhat beefy UIM policy in case some idiot hits me. I'm a big dumb idiot about insurance, but does that sound good? If you are saying I should just get full coverage anyway then a loan is again starting to sound a bit more reasonable. I know about young credit accounts, but I already have an account with the place I will likely get a loan from. I just cannot find cheaper than 5.88% anywhere. If anyone knows some good credit unions or financing options I'd love to hear it because its hard to find cheap (wells fargo wanted 9%)
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The hell, who did I piss off now?
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Knifegrab posted:Again, I am a big dumb idiot. I assumed comp was kind of worthless. Where I keep my bike I am just about completely unworried of theft, and outside of that I don't see the point of comp. UIM PD, I suppose makes sense and obviously I do want collision. My approach is: - UIM PD - enough to buy the bike - UIM BI - enough to cover my McBummercare out of pocket/deductible - BI - ditto - Comp - what if a tree falls on it or somebody backs over it in a parking lot? It's usually really cheap coverage - Collision - no brainer - enough to buy the bike I'd also like to know where to get cheap motorcycle financing. I have superb credit (2 mortgages will help that) but best I've been able to find was like 8%.
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