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Diet Poison posted:While I'm making wishes, here's hoping Laura gets a solo title as "Wolverine" by a good creative team. That was confirmed today too. Tom Taylor and David Lopez. Not familiar with the artist but Tom Taylor's Injustice was entertaining, and people seem to have liked Superior iron Man too. RevKrule posted:Hmm, good point on the lack of covers. Looks like this is all coming from everyone's fave rumor mill bleeding cool. Depending on how much you trust it, these could have wiggle room. Eh, they're too detailed to be made up. They've got casts, taglines and other details. Looks to be all the notable X-Men accounted for except for Cyclops and Emma. And Rogue but she's in Avengers stuff now I think? There's nothing using the students either. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jun 29, 2015 |
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A team of ex-X-villains sound cool, but the idea of Land Mystique... I mean, that's going to be fifteen kinds of train wreck.
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It will be good for 14 year old boys who don't have a computer in their room. That's about it. They should have a rotating Character and the X-men series. After Spider-Man and the X-men do Captain Marvel and the X-Men, Doctor Doom and the X-Men, Howard the Duck and the X-men and so on all focusing on guest teachers at the Jean Grey school. I'm willing to give All new and Uncanny a go, but those teams don't give me a lot of hope. I'm happy there will be a Laura solo Wolverine book though, I'm hoping she just becomes Wolverine, drinking beers, smoking cigars, getting salty with whomever is trying to tell her what to do.
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Yeah so far the only X-books I will be reading are Extraordinary X-men and the X-23 wolverine. I will see how Hopeless is, but I do not have faith. Uncanny is also a maybe, as Cullen has done some good stuff but also stuff that's just there (Venom).
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bobkatt013 posted:Yeah so far the only X-books I will be reading are Extraordinary X-men and the X-23 wolverine. I will see how Hopeless is, but I do not have faith. Uncanny is also a maybe, as Cullen has done some good stuff but also stuff that's just there (Venom). This is looking like my approach too but with less chance of me even touching Uncanny. loving Land. Christ. His art is the biggest deterrent for me. I'm really hoping we get something with either the current JGS kids or the kids Scott was responsible for in Canada or whatever. Unless this is just a chance to quietly shove them aside ...  Maybe this is all a vast conspiracy to drive people away from the X books so they can cancel them with impunity!
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Merge the schools and then have Scott and Emma: Back in Class.
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PantsOptional posted:I always had a soft spot in my heart for their competition in the "mutant ghostbusters" industry, the M-Squad. They were almost literally the Ghostbusters - matching jumpsuits, crazy backpacks, poor understanding of what they'd gotten themselves into. They first showed up trying to catch Jubilee in a mall, which would never work given her home court advantage. Last I saw them, they walked into an elevator in the Empire State Building in the middle of Inferno. If memory serves, the elevator burped shortly after closing the doors, and I don't recall seeing them again. Poor bastards. I'd forgotten about those guys until you mentioned them. Marvel Wikia posted:
Huh. Never knew that, either.
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Of course Claremont wrote stories for Wild Cards. Of course. It's too perfect to not be true.
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It's very thoughtful of Marvel to put a writer whose work I dislike (Hopeless) on a book I don't want to read anyway (ANXM). Convenient, that. I think I'll check out Wolverine though. I guess that's ind of the only way to get X-23 not being called X-23 anymore, especially since I think DC is/has published a book named Talon recently (I dunno the specifics of how trademarks work for that).
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twistedmentat posted:I'm happy there will be a Laura solo Wolverine book though, I'm hoping she just becomes Wolverine, drinking beers, smoking cigars, getting salty with whomever is trying to tell her what to do. The first issue had better be her putting on the old Wolverine costume, and then hanging around whatever school the X-Men have, drinking, smoking, and awkwardly trying to call everyone "bub". Diet Poison posted:What was wrong with his X-23? I mean specifically, because what I read of Arena, I don't remember. I'm also of the opinion that Bendis' X-23 was pretty bad. I read through Arena last weekend; Hopeless' X-23 wasn't amazing or anything but of the criticisms of the series I had, I thought the writing on X-23 herself was fine. I can understand saying Arena was dumb/badly done, as evidence Hopeless isn't a good writer, but especially compared to Bendis' X-23, Hopeless was fine there. I'm going to hold off on saying I won't read any of the X-Books until at least we see preview pages, but ugh, Marvel found the one way to unsell me on a book starring Mystique and Magneto; put Land on it. burnishedfume fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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Hopeless has been kicking rear end on Spider Woman, so I'm sure Wolverine will be fine.
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DrProsek posted:I'm going to hold off on saying I won't read any of the X-Books until at least we see preview pages, but ugh, Marvel found the one way to unsell me on a book starring Mystique and Magneto; put Land on it. The plot of the first arc is, Ian McKellen is being blackmailed with faked pictures of himself in compromising positions with various porn stars. In order to foil the plot, Magneto has to get plastic surgery to take Sir Ian's place, while Mystique has to shapeshift into all the different women. After that first arc ends, everyone is used to their new appearances, so they figure it's just simpler not to change back.
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Mahasamatman posted:How is Jeff Lemire? I'm not familiar with his work but that extraordinary X-men looks like a lot of fun. He's real, real good. His runs on Animal Man and Green Arrow are pretty well regarded 'round these parts, and his smaller scale stuff - Sweet Tooth, Essex County, etc - rules super hard. I've been enjoying his take on Hawkeye so far as well. His name on the book is enough to sell me on it, honestly.
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Die Laughing posted:Hopeless has been kicking rear end on Spider Woman, so I'm sure Wolverine will be fine. Yeah, no. He's getting a lot of extra praise for editorial moving her to street level and the costume change but it's still boring old Hopeless.
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I've been doing a read-through of X-Men related stuff starting with Giant Size, and I just got to UXM #206 where they first fight with Freedom Force. Given their apparent backstory of being former villains pardoned and now working as federal bounty hunters, why is Spiral with them? She's not even from this dimension, and the last time she was seen was in Longshot #6 heading through a portal with Mojo. Is there something I missed in the interim? (If the answer is "keep reading", that's acceptable.) On a smaller nit-pick, how is Kitty simultaneously in San Francisco with a punk haircut going to concerts AND in New York with her normal hair attending school dances with the New Mutants and speaking at a mutant's funeral after his suicide? Come on, Claremont, you're writing both of these!
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Brocktoon posted:I've been doing a read-through of X-Men related stuff starting with Giant Size, and I just got to UXM #206 where they first fight with Freedom Force. Given their apparent backstory of being former villains pardoned and now working as federal bounty hunters, why is Spiral with them? She's not even from this dimension, and the last time she was seen was in Longshot #6 heading through a portal with Mojo. Is there something I missed in the interim? (If the answer is "keep reading", that's acceptable.) Yea, the Spiral thing is weird, she's just there, same with Spider-Woman (non-Jessica) being there, but at least there's a word balloon giving an offhand explanation. Kitty is easy. "Hey Iliyana, can you teleport me back to Xaviers for the dance and then back to SF so I can see Lila Cheney?" "Sure Kitty!"
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Waterhaul posted:There's an interview with Lemire on his Extraordinary book. Looks as if they are in part keeping the Terrigen Mist's kills or is detrimental to mutants thing that was rumoured. The Inhumans stuff since Infinity has been such a shitshow and it's only getting worse. I can't believe the guys engineered by the Celestials are getting shoved out by the guys engineered by the Kree. Goddamn Marvel, just focus on your non mutants in movies instead of loving the X-Men over to make way for New Coke X-Men. It doesn't even make sense, why use off brand mutants if you can't use the the actual characters that made the franchise so popular?
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As much as I love X-23, I seriously hope they won't have her be in that Wolverine costume too often. It really doesn't fit her..
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WickedHate posted:I can't believe the guys engineered by the Celestials
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WickedHate posted:The Inhumans stuff since Infinity has been such a shitshow and it's only getting worse. I can't believe the guys engineered by the Celestials are getting shoved out by the guys engineered by the Kree. Inhuman has been great. So you're full of it.
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WickedHate posted:The Inhumans stuff since Infinity has been such a shitshow and it's only getting worse. I can't believe the guys engineered by the Celestials are getting shoved out by the guys engineered by the Kree. Yeah lovely characters like Ms. Marvel
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Endless Mike posted:This is not mutants except on Earth-X (and whatever time tributaries lead to and from it) where it's everyone. Only the Eternals were engineered by the Celestials in 616. bobkatt013 posted:Yeah lovely characters like Ms. Marvel
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Codependent Poster posted:Inhuman has been great. So you're full of it. I hesitate to call it great. Good, definitely. I like the story but the players do nothing for me. The only new character (aside from Kamala who only half-counts cause she's kicking rear end in other books) who isn't totally forgettable is Frank the Cop. And I loved the woman with the big ears, though I don't know if she was new. I was mad when she was killed so I guess that's a hallmark of a good character? Black Bolt and Medusa actively bore me, too. But: still better than the drawn-out nothingness the two flagship X-Books devolved into. And I was super-prepared to love XX-Men but it ended up sucking out loud, too. In my opinion, poor team composition. And how quickly Uncanny Avengers turned from "this is totally a flagship book, guys" to "nothing that happens here will be of any consequence which is good because it's garbage". Anyway I'm glad for the switch-up. Excited for Extraordinary (not only that but I might be the only one pleased they didn't go with the easy and cheesy "X-traordinary" that was right there for the taking), slightly less excited for All-New but now that I've given the premise some time to settle in my head, I'm on board with it. I'm super pumped for Wolverine but agree that outside of the symbolism, I'd prefer Laura in another costume. Or even the yellow costume minus the cowl(?). She has literally no reason to cover her face.
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WickedHate posted:Ms. Marvel is the diamond in the rough and nothing good about her requires being an Inhuman. She would be exactly as good as she is, or better, as a mutant. The new inhuman series has been really good. 
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Archer666 posted:As much as I love X-23, I seriously hope they won't have her be in that Wolverine costume too often. It really doesn't fit her.. Well if she truly wants to embrace the Wolverine legacy, she only has to wear the costume on missions and during her free time she can hang out in cowboy hats threatening strangers and drinking.
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WickedHate posted:Ms. Marvel is the diamond in the rough and nothing good about her requires being an Inhuman. She would be exactly as good as she is, or better, as a mutant. Right, but why promote a solo character they couldn't turn into a movie if they wanted?
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MY ABACUS! posted:Right, but why promote a solo character they couldn't turn into a movie if they wanted? This. They might as well just re-institute No More Mutants (without depowering the existing mutants) because until hell freezes over and those rights revert, Marvel isn't gonna let anyone make a new character that Fox can put on-screen and they can't, just in case they end up as a breakout hit like Kamala.
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TwoPair posted:Well if she truly wants to embrace the Wolverine legacy, she only has to wear the costume on missions and during her free time she can hang out in cowboy hats threatening strangers and drinking. With Lemire you know there will be hockey watching!
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Ms Marvel didn't need to be an Inhuman, she just needed not to be a mutant. She could have been gamma powered or found out she was a robot, Marvel just so happened to be pushing the Inhumans at the time she was created. Maybe somewhere down the line someone will write a great story with her that relies on her Inhuman ties but that hasn't happened yet.
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MY ABACUS! posted:Right, but why promote a solo character they couldn't turn into a movie if they wanted? Starsnostars posted:Ms Marvel didn't need to be an Inhuman, she just needed not to be a mutant. She could have been gamma powered or found out she was a robot, Marvel just so happened to be pushing the Inhumans at the time she was created. Maybe somewhere down the line someone will write a great story with her that relies on her Inhuman ties but that hasn't happened yet. Yeah, I didn't mean she needed to be a mutant specifically, but either way her inhumanity is very unessential, so she's not a great example fo how awesome the Inhuman push is.
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Starsnostars posted:Ms Marvel didn't need to be an Inhuman, she just needed not to be a mutant. She could have been gamma powered or found out she was a robot, Marvel just so happened to be pushing the Inhumans at the time she was created. Maybe somewhere down the line someone will write a great story with her that relies on her Inhuman ties but that hasn't happened yet. The current story with her crush the inhuman tie is pretty important. The fact that she refuses to join up with them so they decided to see if they can activate her brother would not work if she was not inhuman.
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bobkatt013 posted:The current story with her crush the inhuman tie is pretty important. The fact that she refuses to join up with them so they decided to see if they can activate her brother would not work if she was not inhuman. Sure because if she is an Inhuman then you might as well use the mythos and characters surrounding that but I don't think anyone involved in Ms Marvel's creation slammed their fist down and insisted she be an Inhuman so they could eventually do this specific plot.
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Starsnostars posted:Sure because if she is an Inhuman then you might as well use the mythos and characters surrounding that but I don't think anyone involved in Ms Marvel's creation slammed their fist down and insisted she be an Inhuman so they could eventually do this specific plot. I am just saying that the current storyline is pretty good and the inhuman part of her story is important to it. I was responding to your post about how a story that relies on her inhuman ties has not been written yet.
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Starsnostars posted:...I don't think anyone involved in Ms Marvel's creation slammed their fist down and insisted she be an Inhuman... Maybe so. I'd love to hear whether this is true or not. And if so, what origin was planned before the ol' Synergy Boot came down on her creation.
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