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Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.

The Iron Rose posted:

So long as you don't destroy it you should be fine I think.

Just be careful with explosives in that last room.

I've been building fusion weapons for four playthroughs and just saw the actual core on the ship for the first time in my most recent one. I didn't even know it was an object until a week or two ago.

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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Mr.Pibbleton posted:

I now have incredible hopes for alien allies in the DLC.

I think that would be fun! Make it really a rare occurrence, so you can very rarely undertake a risky mission to capture and un-brainwash a muton or whatever, and he's a super soldier, but if he dies, chances are you aren't ever getting another one. Would make that particular character death, when/if it comes, really memorable.

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

uber_stoat posted:

Would make that particular character death, when/if it comes, really memorable.

CPL Hyuurghhhgghhh "SOUND OF METAL TEARING" Gyryggyrhhrylh

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Decrepus posted:

If you get a Sectoid terror mission that early it really sucks and it basically the worst possible start you could have. You should give it another go. :)

Barring that bug in the original that lets you get an Ethereal base assault the first week of January...

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

LonsomeSon posted:

CPL Hyuurghhhgghhh "SOUND OF METAL TEARING" Gyryggyrhhrylh

he's nice if you get to know him!

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

uber_stoat posted:

I think that would be fun! Make it really a rare occurrence, so you can very rarely undertake a risky mission to capture and un-brainwash a muton or whatever, and he's a super soldier, but if he dies, chances are you aren't ever getting another one. Would make that particular character death, when/if it comes, really memorable.

Commander, we succeeded in removing the ethereal's mental hold over the muton. However, it still tried to kill us because its a loving muton what the hell did you expect?

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖
Isn't IGN supposed to be doing more articles on the new classes soon?

uber_stoat posted:

he's nice if you get to know him!
RGHHRHGHH IAAAAHMMMM A NIICE MUTON BUT FEMALES RHGHH JUST LIKE JERKS LIKE CHRYSSALIDS WHO WILL BANG YOU AND DUMP YOUUAAARRRRRGGHHH
LADIIIIEEEEEEES IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHERE ALL THE NICE MUTONS ARE THEY'RE RIGHHHHGHHGRHGHH HERE
IN THE FRIENDZONE SKYRANGER WHERE YOU LEFT US

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


XCOM Thinmen vs Advent Vipertits. Fight of the century.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'
Friendly Mutons could just be like the rock trolls from Witcher 3. :3

Sylphosaurus
Sep 6, 2007

Milky Moor posted:

Friendly Mutons could just be like the rock trolls from Witcher 3. :3
"If you don't go bash-bash on those snakyladies, daddy Branford is going to swish-swish you!"

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Milky Moor posted:

Friendly Mutons could just be like the rock trolls from Witcher 3. :3

Only if they get to paint their own XCOM decals

LEGO Genetics
Oct 8, 2013

She growls as she storms the stadium
A villain mean and rough
And the cops all shake and quiver and quake
as she stabs them with her cuffs
god even with the goon changes I still find myself plodding through the .ini files for Long War for more tweaks and fixes

Ernie Muppari
Aug 4, 2012

Keep this up G'Bert, and soon you won't have a pigeon to protect!
so i started a new vanilla ew game after not playing xcom for a while

i forgot how incredibly annoying the early game can be just as a result of los/cover issues

edit: it's really just on a couple maps too, like that one daytime forest landed ufo one, where you start like, right next to the ufo and there's almost nothing like usable cover, and what little there is seems to keep your guys from seeing the aliens as they pile out of the clown car, but doesn't keep them from killing your guys


yes, i may have just lost a whole team on that map, why do you ask?

Ernie Muppari fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jun 30, 2015

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

SynthOrange posted:

This is me.

The shadow, right?

Musluk
May 23, 2011



Decrepus posted:

You should give it another go. :)

I will, probably when I lose/get extremely bored of my current LW campaign though. Or if I manage to get the android port working.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

The Iron Rose posted:

I felt similarly until I played Dynamic War. It's waaaaaaaay better on that front.
Did you play with the 0.5 setting? How was it

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Musluk posted:

Ooookay.

I installed OpenXcom today (also tried to install it on my phone, didn't work). Jumped into a veteran game.

does openxcom fix the difficulty bug?

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Pomp posted:

does openxcom fix the difficulty bug?

Among other things. If you plan on playing OG Xcom again, play Open. There is literally no reason to play any other version.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.
OpenXcom's AI is totally different and it has its own bugs still, including some rather annoying ones in 1.0. Probably still preferable, mind.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Mordaedil posted:

The shadow, right?

The pillow.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.


Dear William. Please stop staring at your loving feet when a Cyberdisk is 5 squares away from you. I know you just love the ground but look up for fucks sake!

EDIT: One should remember when disassembling the Officer Training School so they can improve the design of their base that they should rebuild it otherwise have to do the mission with only 4 units. But okay, I need the MEC-Squad achievment anyway, and I have 4 MECs. Oh I forgot to give one of them a Particle cannon. Okay it's fine it's just a small scout- Oh crap I triggered the Cyberdisc and Muton Elites at the same time. Okay, I can fix this, pulling it out.

And then the game crashed.

EDIT: And I'm back to the beginning of the battleship. Is there a way to just console command this mission complete because I really don't want to slog through it again

Onmi fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Jun 30, 2015

Musluk
May 23, 2011



Onmi posted:

Is there a way to just console command this mission complete because I really don't want to slog through it again

killaliens.

Thyrork
Apr 21, 2010

"COME PLAY MECHS M'LANCER."

Or at least use Retrograde Mini's to make cool mechs and fantasy stuff.

:awesomelon:
Slippery Tilde
Thinking of giving long war another shot, who was it who kept posting alternative .ini files to change the difficulty/make it less of a slog/unfuck the airwar?

If anyone wants to post anything regarding Long war and changing it up, that'd be great. :shobon:

Tirius
Aug 16, 2007

A short, sturdy creature fond of drink and industry.

Thyrork posted:

If anyone wants to post anything regarding Long war and changing it up, that'd be great. :shobon:

I always change the experience required for levelling from rookie to specialist to 10. It guarantees that a rookie will be promoted after surviving a mission, so you don't have to ration out your kills so that your rookies can all gain a level. Changing this one value doesn't effect any of the other levels, so the rest will feel the same.

One thing to note though is that any soldiers that join AS specialists will only have 10XP. I could probably just increase the required amount to whatever the award for a single completed mission is, but I've never bothered.

The line is

m_iSoldierXPLevels=120; SPEC

120 is the value to change.

Tirius fucked around with this message at 12:26 on Jun 30, 2015

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Thyrork posted:

Thinking of giving long war another shot, who was it who kept posting alternative .ini files to change the difficulty/make it less of a slog/unfuck the airwar?

If anyone wants to post anything regarding Long war and changing it up, that'd be great. :shobon:

That was me. There's a nexus link last page for the goon .ini, and of course you can make further changes yourself.


There's also a way to change air war settings. Go to r/xcom, find Long War 101, it should be in the 15e compatible mods list.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.


Okay I must plan out the Feng Shui of my base, then I can go do the Alien Base.

Oh hey an Abductor better go deal with that.

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

Yessss

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



Onmi posted:



Okay I must plan out the Feng Shui of my base, then I can go do the Alien Base.

Oh hey an Abductor better go deal with that.
Labs to one side of the base, workshops to the other. :colbert:

RoanHorse
Dec 12, 2013

WHAT THE gently caress!? Seekers have plasma rifles shoved down their throats!?

edit: code blacked because of this

RoanHorse fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Jun 30, 2015

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
Okay then, so 15 Alloy Cannons, 11 Heavy Plasma, 13 Sniper Rifles and then 21 Plasma Rifles for the 21 loving Supports I have.

Then I have to get like Titan armor for my Supports and Assaults and maybe Heavies and then Archangel for my snipers.

THEN I should be ready and prepped for the Alien base, because no matter what I'm doing I'll have a fully outfitted team for base assault!

... I think I have a problem.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


RoanHorse posted:

WHAT THE gently caress!? Seekers have plasma rifles shoved down their throats!?

edit: code blacked because of this

:xcom:

Code Blacks are the worst loving thing but it's one of the reasons I love this game.

There should be an option for Big Sky to leave the Skyranger and finish the mission on a code black.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

RoanHorse posted:

WHAT THE gently caress!? Seekers have plasma rifles shoved down their throats!?

edit: code blacked because of this

I think its just pistols, and yeah, that happens when your team has no eligible strangulation targets, whether its due to gene mods, equipables, or armor.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Onmi posted:

Okay then, so 15 Alloy Cannons, 11 Heavy Plasma, 13 Sniper Rifles and then 21 Plasma Rifles for the 21 loving Supports I have.

Then I have to get like Titan armor for my Supports and Assaults and maybe Heavies and then Archangel for my snipers.

THEN I should be ready and prepped for the Alien base, because no matter what I'm doing I'll have a fully outfitted team for base assault!

... I think I have a problem.

...you do just have to outfit the top six soldiers in your roster iirc

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

There should be an option for Big Sky to leave the Skyranger and finish the mission on a code black.

why not just mod in invincibility while you're at it

Carnalfex
Jul 18, 2007
How do you get arc throwers working in the pistol slot? I changed the type from wp_secondary to pistol, and they were able to equip them in the slot just fine. During the mission though the pistol slot has a blank icon and they don't actually get the stun ability. You can still swap to the arc thrower pressing x, and they pull it out, and the game even understands they're holding one by showing the stun range circles around enemies. The troops just can't actually stun anything.

dyzzy
Dec 22, 2009

argh

The Iron Rose posted:

...you do just have to outfit the top six soldiers in your roster iirc

Plus the base assault doesn't happen immediately after the alien base mission normally. Granted I've never waited that long to do it... Temples and Ashes is going to be horrifying holy poo poo.

A.o.D. posted:

I think its just pistols, and yeah, that happens when your team has no eligible strangulation targets, whether its due to gene mods, equipables, or armor.

Definitely caught me off guard in vanilla EW. I don't think all of my soldiers were immune but it was in a medium UFO and I left my squad wide open for a flank shot thinking it would just go for a strangle. Of course LW 'unshackled' their AI so they're very happy to just take the height advantage, flank aggressively and shoot at you regardless.

dyzzy fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jun 30, 2015

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.

The Iron Rose posted:

...you do just have to outfit the top six soldiers in your roster iirc

Oh, I know, I've seen the mission played. at this point I have... 19-20 Colonels. I could pretty much end the game now and not really worry.

EDIT: I also have 20 Fire Storms, 2 on each continent armed with EMP cannons and the other two with Fusion cannons. I almost have 3 fully upgraded mechs and at least one soldier completely Gene-Modded.

EDIT 2: It's also March of Year 2. I'm surprised the Council hasn't booted me to the curb for not dealing with the alien base we've had on radar forever.

Onmi fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jun 30, 2015

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Carnalfex posted:

How do you get arc throwers working in the pistol slot? I changed the type from wp_secondary to pistol, and they were able to equip them in the slot just fine. During the mission though the pistol slot has a blank icon and they don't actually get the stun ability. You can still swap to the arc thrower pressing x, and they pull it out, and the game even understands they're holding one by showing the stun range circles around enemies. The troops just can't actually stun anything.
It's more complicated than that. There's a whole secondary entry for arc throwers as pistols. If you want to use them in the pistol slot, there's instructions right next to it. You just remove the ";" comment code from the pistol slot variant, and then remove or comment out the original variant.

Gyrotica
Nov 26, 2012

Grafted to machines your builders did not understand.

Onmi posted:

EDIT 2: It's also March of Year 2. I'm surprised the Council hasn't booted me to the curb for not dealing with the alien base we've had on radar forever.

Yet again the world has fallen victim to the alien-industral complex.

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Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

A.o.D. posted:

I think its just pistols, and yeah, that happens when your team has no eligible strangulation targets, whether its due to gene mods, equipables, or armor.

Or sometimes they just randomly decide to decloak and shoot you in the face anyways. Most of the time they go for strangles but sometimes they just don't want too, even when they could.

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