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Slanderer posted:What is Nazi Shaming? Is that a bad thing somehow? It's about the PC Master Race wikipedia article.
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Cingulate posted:Didn't know what a Cid was so I googled it. I too hate women and wish to have them scoured from my sight.
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Gianthogweed posted:A few years ago, we had Occupy Wall Street. It was the 99% vs. the 1%. Now we have all this infighting among groups that all think they're on the left. Gamergate thinks the anti-gamergate are the reactionaries, and anti-gamergate thinks gamergate are the reactionaries. Both thinks of themselves as the oppressed underdogs and both are using Saul Alinskies rules for radicals against each other in smear campaigns and dragging each other through the dirt. Meanwhile the rich are getting richer and laughing. Good Job. Pretty much. Income inequality at Gilded Age levels? Nah. A Trillion dollars of student loan debt slavery? Nope. Wages decrease while corporate profits increase? Meh. Exploitation of the desperation of people looking for jobs and slashing pay to ridiculous levels (or simply sending them overseas to increase profits even more with less worker protections)? Eh. Identity politics in video games? Holy poo poo, to redditt, tumblr and twitter to take up the cause! gently caress, this poo poo is stupid. Oh well. At least I can get some entertainment from both while Rome burns. Dapper Dan fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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I wasn't expecting such a downer when opening this thread today, but the reminder that such a bold and powerful display of what can be done by a minority populace when it bands together and fights through multiple means without regard for being "the perfect darkie" has been revised and taught to multiple generations of our country that it was all down to one Magic Negro and his sacrificial racism healing powers, is incredibly depressing. MLK was great, Malcolm X was great, The Black Panthers were great, those who were willing to stand with them at the risk of loss of social standing with their fellow whites were great. Socialists who argued both for equal rights and improvement of southern conditions were great. Don't devolve such a cornerstone of american history down to "one man was nice and inoffensive enough to Win Equality". We wouldn't be where we are without any of them, they all deserve respect.
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Snood posted:I too hate women and wish to have them scoured from my sight. The lizards speak in such a way that it becomes apparent that why they hate the pink-haired menace is because they aren't real women. Real women are like this render, not like the desultory men-with-breasts who inhabit most of the "physical" world.
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Spare a thought for the videogame lady who couldn't find a shirt and had to wear a jacket so small that she can't zip it up.
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Cingulate posted:Didn't know what a Cid was so I googled it. I don't feel insulted. Funnily enough, the massive proliferation of scantily clad, busty women in video games and anime has caused even the loneliest of nerds to look at their personalities to find his one and true waifu. Truly we live in the best of all possible worlds.
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Neurolimal posted:I wasn't expecting such a downer when opening this thread today, but the reminder that such a bold and powerful display of what can be done by a minority populace when it bands together and fights through multiple means without regard for being "the perfect darkie" has been revised and taught to multiple generations of our country that it was all down to one Magic Negro and his sacrificial racism healing powers, is incredibly depressing. Yeah, very true. You really did have various groups coming together to fight for Civil Rights. People forget that 3 civil rights workers were murdered in Mississippi fighting for equality, two of them were white. Its the whole influence for 'Mississippi Burning'. And there were others too, black and white who died to secure Civil Rights. Here's a list for anyone who is curious: http://www.splcenter.org/civil-rights-memorial/civil-rights-martyrs The problem is in American History classes, we avoid the bloody parts of history ('Lies My Teacher Told Me' is incredible). We focus so much on early America, we don't have time to delve into the modern era. Sad.
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 Too much exposed skin if you ask me. Absolute filth.
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Broniki posted:
Clearly the most pressing issue of our times.
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Broniki posted:
I feel harassed and insulted by this post, please delete forthwith. In the future please consult with me before posting something that I might read to determine to what scale I will be offended so you can be given an opportunity to revise your post.
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If only we were united on Video Games we could enact Communism.
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Broniki posted:
Why is it so important that every female character shows cleavage? I legitimately want to know. To me, it seems like most revealing character designs are done for the sake of cheesecake. While cheesecake can be OK at times, having it all the time for every meal isn't exactly healthy. What do tan lines and a low cut dress add to the character? What purpose do they serve? Sinnlos fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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Sinnlos posted:Why is it so important that every female character shows cleavage? Uhhhh actually you're just cherrypicking examples! Here, let me give you this one non-sexualized character which is totally representative of most games, and no I do not see the contradiction
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Sinnlos posted:I legitimately want to know. To me, it seems like most revealing character designs are done for the sake of cheesecake. While cheesecake can be OK at times, having it all the time for every meal isn't exactly healthy. What do tan lines and a low cut dress add to the character? What purpose do they serve? Female power fantasy.
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Sinnlos posted:Why is it so important that every female character shows cleavage? What else are lonely nerds going to jack off to?
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Sinnlos posted:Why is it so important that every female character shows cleavage? Cheesecake isn't literal cheesecake it's figurative cheesecake which you can in fact eat all the time with no ill effects, unlike real cheesecake.
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Broniki posted:Cheesecake isn't literal cheesecake it's metaphorical cheesecake which you can in fact eat all the time with no ill effects, unlike real cheesecake. I'm pretty sure consistent exposure to sexualized female figures has ill effects with regard to perceptions of women.
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Sinnlos posted:I'm pretty sure consistent exposure to sexualized female figures has ill effects with regard to perceptions of women. Only if you consider them real people.
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Sinnlos posted:I'm pretty sure consistent exposure to sexualized female figures has ill effects with regard to perceptions of women. That's "cultivation theory", as the lizards call it. That is, the belief that any external influence can have any power over you. Why they don't use their physical invincibility to help people is a question for the ages.
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Sinnlos posted:I'm pretty sure consistent exposure to sexualized female figures has ill effects with regard to perceptions of women. you're not pretty sure you're extremely uncertain and just throwing whatever out there Who What Now posted:Only if you consider them real people. if you consider female figures/fictional women to be the same as real women then yes you may develop some problems
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Sinnlos posted:I'm pretty sure consistent exposure to sexualized female figures has ill effects with regard to perceptions of women. Just like video games and other violent media cause violence and desensitization to real life violence and more permissive attitudes towards it.
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Broniki posted:
After all, no one has ever used a fictional representation of a group as a standin to a real member of that group.
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Broniki posted:you're not pretty sure you're extremely uncertain and just throwing whatever out there Hey, if you're immune to any sort of external influence, why don't you let me test that out with this geologist's hammer? Dapper Dan posted:Just like video games and other violent media cause violence and desensitization to real life violence and more permissive attitudes towards it. Same for you. Why not put your superpowers to the test?
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Broniki posted:you're not pretty sure you're extremely uncertain and just throwing whatever out there No, I'm pretty sure, based upon a solid body of research into things like body image and it's relation to mass media. http://www.westminstercollege.edu/myriad/index.cfm?parent=...&detail=4475&content=4795 Obviously fictional characters are not real people, but fictional things can, and do, have a real cultural impact.
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Sinnlos posted:I'm pretty sure consistent exposure to sexualized female figures has ill effects with regard to perceptions of women. It's a game starring four bishounen (nip for pretty boys) and one of them has his shirt unbuttoned at all times. You're over thinking this duder. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sinnlos posted:I'm pretty sure consistent exposure to sexualized female figures has ill effects with regard to perceptions of women. Exposure to sexualized female figures has, with the advent of the internet, massively increased over the past twenty years. If that didn't have any noticable ill effects on perceptions of women, I don't think we have to worry about a few polygonal boobs.
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ChazTurbo posted:It's a game starring four bishounen (nip for pretty boys) and one of them has his shirt unbuttoned at all times. You're over thinking this duder. There's no such thing as overthinking, and if you disagree, I would suggest you try surgical correction instead of talking.
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Dapper Dan posted:Just like video games and other violent media cause violence and desensitization to real life violence and more permissive attitudes towards it. There is a significant body of research demonstrating a link between media depictions and body image.
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Effectronica posted:There's no such thing as overthinking, and if you disagree, I would suggest you try surgical correction instead of talking. I bet you're a blast at hang outs.
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ChazTurbo posted:It's a game starring four bishounen (nip for pretty boys) and one of them has his shirt unbuttoned at all times. You're over thinking this duder. Haha, hooooooooooly poo poo
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I'm all the way back on page 126, and this thread moves so fast it seems like everything is irrelevant before it's replied to anyway. I just want to say the whole "about gaming journalism" angle was turned into a straw man. That phrase is used more to mockingly detract people from GG than to represent GG anymore. There is a journalism angle to it, but it's not exclusively about journalism. It's probably more about social media, and about the indie PC developer community, and where 'journalism' comes in is that these writers often talk and hang out with these developers because, well, they're the only ones left who will. Call of Duty has more advertising people than a typical Presidential campaign, and will talk to you when they want to. Sony is pretty similar. Anyone who actual really influences things at Nintendo usually has a poor grasp of English. Indie PC developers will give interviews, guest host on your podcast, etc. I've talked about this already, about how sites have to keep people coming back and the underground PC game scene will give you much more exclusive information about their pixel-platformer than EA will their games. Around 2008, Twitter really took off. People who write reviews/previews/interviews and host podcasts for the most well known game sites were not immune to signing up for Twitter. Between Twitter and podcasts, a lot of elements about the industry of writing about games is now discussed in a casually open format. That includes NDAs, who can phone up whom for a question, etc. This stuff always existed, and if pressed somebody might say that yes they are embargoed from reviewing a game until after you have had a chance to buy it, but in the days before social media the workings of these offices were generally out of view. What has also happened because of social media is that you're witness to these people's political opinions. And people that read their work who don't agree with them on non-policy matters like feminist theory feel betrayed. Many writers just refuse to make any comments about this, many who do will say that Personal Harassment Is Bad. But a number of people have leaned in, become even closer to these ideologue developers, and just leads to further fracturing about "who you can trust." Retired TV host Adam Sessler doesn't just think harassment is bad, he hung out with Quinn while she went undercover in an 8chan chat room trying to harass her or whatever, and boasted about it. And consequently a lot of people who either don't like Quinn or don't care about this whole thing unfollow the guy they used to watch on TV for many years because he's also now also boosting for radical feminism. (It goes the other way, too. Some guy who works/ed for IGN has the handle NoTaxation and posts Tea Party rants, and that also lowered a lot of peoples's opinion for what he has to say about games and other things.) I think everyone will eventually survive. Film criticism survived, everybody knew Roger Ebert was a liberal but angry conservatives didn't ruin the entire profession for everyone because of it. It was just a lot easier when we didn't have any lines of communication with people who work at game blogs when they were off the clock.
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Effectronica posted:Hey, if you're immune to any sort of external influence, why don't you let me test that out with this geologist's hammer? Denying agency is very important for you because being acted upon instead of acting is what defines victim status, I am very aware.
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NutritiousSnack posted:If you excuse me I have to dig up all threads all 4chan's /v/ because it's distaste for Kotaku or Bioware is a new and unknown thing and not a basic fact. When you claim the link between the ME3 ending and Gamergate the onus is on you to prove it. Also I don't think anonymous whinging about Bioware on 4chan makes it a central piece in this Gamergate mess. It's almost like you just assert things with no evidence and claim they are readily apparent. NutritiousSnack posted:Comic Book Code of Authority and the DnD satanic panic actually killed both of those mediums, Yeah like this right here. Weirdo fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jun 30, 2015 |
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INH5 posted:Exposure to sexualized female figures has, with the advent of the internet, massively increased over the past twenty years. If that didn't have any noticable ill effects on perceptions of women, I don't think we have to worry about a few polygonal boobs. I'd actually like to look at body dysmorphic disorder diagnosis rates over time.
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ChazTurbo posted:It's a game starring four bishounen (nip for pretty boys) and one of them has his shirt unbuttoned at all times. You're over thinking this duder.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sinnlos posted:There is a significant body of research demonstrating a link between media depictions and body image. Those are real women. Video game characters are not.
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decades of listening to rap and heavy metal music has made me a godless violence-loving communist. Tipper Gore was right.
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