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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Man I know you guys said EU: Rome is really silly, but uh, I'm kinda getting tired of barbarians attacking me every time I get a province to 50 civilization and setting it back to 35. The campaign is going to end before I ever expand beyond 2 provinces.

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Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Larry Parrish posted:

Man I know you guys said EU: Rome is really silly, but uh, I'm kinda getting tired of barbarians attacking me every time I get a province to 50 civilization and setting it back to 35. The campaign is going to end before I ever expand beyond 2 provinces.

Don't play it without WizMod

Quantumfate
Feb 17, 2009

Angered & displeased, he went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, insulted & cursed him with rude, harsh words.

When this was said, the Blessed One said to him:


"Motherfucker I will -end- you"


For EU:Rome one thing I actually do quite like is how they handled trade. Well conceptually I like it, imports and exports for varying provinces and all. In implementation it became a massive, massive pain to manually set it on a province-by-province basis if you were a country of any real size. Like Rome.

Also the Platypus of the Month in the most recent Paradox news letter is an Echidna. Don't you guys playtest AT ALL?

:v:

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Quantumfate posted:

For EU:Rome one thing I actually do quite like is how they handled trade. Well conceptually I like it, imports and exports for varying provinces and all. In implementation it became a massive, massive pain to manually set it on a province-by-province basis if you were a country of any real size. Like Rome.

Also the Platypus of the Month in the most recent Paradox news letter is an Echidna. Don't you guys playtest AT ALL?

:v:

Not to mention other countries with empty slots are randomly just like 'nah, not trading with your dirty rear end even though it'll make me richer than anyone else can'

Party In My Diapee
Jan 24, 2014
If you're still playing Rome in 2015 somehow, you should use Wiz's Reign of the Ancients. Only bug I noticed is that the bonuses you get for controlling a region are broken for everything called superior or inferior because Wiz did a replace all of every "or" with "and". Easily fixed.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice

ToxicAcne posted:

so the devs of Victoria Ultimate intend to charge 5 bucks for it.



modders.txt

Aka he wont be charging poo poo if he doesn't want Pdox breathing down his neck.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Aka he wont be charging poo poo if he doesn't want Pdox breathing down his neck.

What if he purchased the Clausewitz engine from Ubik?

Westminster System
Jul 4, 2009

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Aka he wont be charging poo poo if he doesn't want Pdox breathing down his neck.

Yeah I was about to say that doesn't sound entirely legal.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Larry Parrish posted:

Man I know you guys said EU: Rome is really silly, but uh, I'm kinda getting tired of barbarians attacking me every time I get a province to 50 civilization and setting it back to 35. The campaign is going to end before I ever expand beyond 2 provinces.

It's just realism. Don't want to spoil too much, but I wouldn't get too attached to the Roman Empire.

fermun
Nov 4, 2009
There was a HOI4 dev diary yesterday:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-19th-development-diary-3rd-of-july-2015.867684/

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice

Is the British Empire taking the place of the Third Reich in those pics? :eyepop:

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Is the British Empire taking the place of the Third Reich in those pics? :eyepop:

Well, it's in January of 1936, so I presume it was simply a console command to change Britain to fascist to tease dynamic flag changes and not actually something organic.

dublish
Oct 31, 2011


Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

Is the British Empire taking the place of the Third Reich in those pics? :eyepop:

Looks like they've just had the United Kingdom go fascist. Same thing could happen in Vicky2.

I want to play this game yesterday, and Paradox is going on vacation for half the summer.

David Corbett
Feb 6, 2008

Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world.

Phlegmish posted:

I still listen to Finska Rytteriets Marsch or King Cotton from time to time. I love that bombastic stuff.

In general, there is something about the atmosphere of Victoria: Revolutions that I really like and makes me keep coming back it, even though the games are fairly predictable at this point. Every time I play I turn into a mustachioed bourgeois Victorian with an unshakable faith in scientific progress and the mission to educate the uncivilized races.
I also just enjoy managing populations. There aren't many games that simulate this interaction between politics, economy, technology and demographics, and I wish there were more.

I love Victoria and Victoria 2. Panzeh's av says wargames let him be Hitler. Victoria basically lets me become the platonic ideal from which people like Cecil Rhodes were cut. It's like I'm a human incarnation of the New Imperialism, or of the system of Modernity itself.

I get a weird sense of accomplishment when the portion of the country that represents my nationality increases, as though proving their inherent superiority and productivity and showing the benighted minorities in my country embracing Civilisation. (Whomever "they" happens to be is completely irrelevant.)

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

some dude in the hoi4 dev diary thread posted:

Amazing--you appear to believe in historical determinism. The USA, a representative republic, during this period had started becoming the fascist nation it today is; however, it didn't need to happen. I'm sure in the last 40-years many would have said this couldn't happen to the USA.

Oh paradox plaza. You truly are the gift that just keeps on giving. :allears:

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



David Corbett posted:

I love Victoria and Victoria 2. Panzeh's av says wargames let him be Hitler. Victoria basically lets me become the platonic ideal from which people like Cecil Rhodes were cut. It's like I'm a human incarnation of the New Imperialism, or of the system of Modernity itself.

I get a weird sense of accomplishment when the portion of the country that represents my nationality increases, as though proving their inherent superiority and productivity and showing the benighted minorities in my country embracing Civilisation. (Whomever "they" happens to be is completely irrelevant.)

As does "our" identity! I can just as happily be Ethiopia and ensure all of Siam converts to our glorious culture as I can the reverse.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Return of Glorious Fascist Babylon????????

GSD posted:

Oh paradox plaza. You truly are the gift that just keeps on giving. :allears:

That's not surprising, Pdox plaza's American population is disproportionately made up of teenage idiots who really like using the words "fascist", "police state", "iron-fisted", and "1984" to refer to their country.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
If the USA wasn't a fascist dictatorship, why would people laugh at it. :agesilaus:

Bel Monte
Oct 9, 2012

Funky Valentine posted:

That's not surprising, Pdox plaza's American population is disproportionately made up of teenage idiots who really like using the words "fascist", "police state", "iron-fisted", and "1984" to refer to their country.

There are also a surprising number of ultra-conservative older folks there. I'm using "ultra-conservative" loosely though. Funnily enough, some still harp on liberals in the US despite being in like the Netherlands. It's bizarre some of the things you will find there.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

I'm fond of Kilrain, myself; the Swede who has accepted Ron Paul as his personal lord and saviour. Also refuses to eat anything but white bread.

Defeatist Elitist
Jun 17, 2012

I've got a carbon fixation.

Autonomous Monster posted:

I'm fond of Kilrain, myself; the Swede who has accepted Ron Paul as his personal lord and saviour. Also refuses to eat anything but white bread.

:catstare: Like, white bread is the only bread he will eat, or he won't eat any food at all except white bread?


Don't these people worry that they'll be making GBS threads out a hole in their side for the latter half of their lives? :ohdear:

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Defeatist Elitist posted:

he won't eat any food at all except white bread?

Apparently. I don''t know if I actually believe him, as he's been talking about it for years now and he's not dead yet.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Paradox Forums.txt would be the greatest twitter account.

Defeatist Elitist
Jun 17, 2012

I've got a carbon fixation.

Autonomous Monster posted:

Apparently. I don''t know if I actually believe him, as he's been talking about it for years now and he's not dead yet.

I'm sure this is the obvious question, but why? I assume he's given a reason if he constantly brings it up. Is it related to his political views in any way?

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Defeatist Elitist posted:

I'm sure this is the obvious question, but why? I assume he's given a reason if he constantly brings it up. Is it related to his political views in any way?
The ultimate freedom is doing what society tells you is bad.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

quote:

Not true, I've lived exclusively on bread (white bread with nothing on it, no butter, cheese or anything, just bread) and milk since I was about five.

quote:

I don't do it to keep healthy. I don't know why. It's just the way things are

On the topic of wholegrain:

quote:

Can't eat that. It has to be white (pure) wheat bread. Just the smell of something that coarse would make me gag. Not to mention the seeds...

:shrug:

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



David Corbett posted:

I love Victoria and Victoria 2. Panzeh's av says wargames let him be Hitler. Victoria basically lets me become the platonic ideal from which people like Cecil Rhodes were cut. It's like I'm a human incarnation of the New Imperialism, or of the system of Modernity itself.

I get a weird sense of accomplishment when the portion of the country that represents my nationality increases, as though proving their inherent superiority and productivity and showing the benighted minorities in my country embracing Civilisation. (Whomever "they" happens to be is completely irrelevant.)

Agreed, it really captures the mindset of the establishment at the peak of liberal modernity very well. You're trying to safeguard your newly uniformized nation-state from any remaining reactionary Ancien Régime elements while at the same attempting to keep the budding socialist movement from becoming too powerful or nationalism from overheating and turning into fascism. All while you're on an unstoppable march towards progress and enlightenment that will inevitably uplift the lower classes and the uncivilized races - provided they know their place.

Paradox, please make Victoria III, but less hands-off than Victoria II.

Autonomous Monster posted:

On the topic of wholegrain:

You know what, gently caress it, I'm going to disregard all nutritional advice from now on. Someone like that hasn't dropped dead yet, so obviously it doesn't matter what you eat.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I live on bread, but only the most tasteless bread because I'm a three chromosome ascetic in the modern age.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I'll admit I prefer white bread, but only because it's the best base for delicious spreads. I'd never eat it by itself.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


If he's drinking Milk aswell, that explains how he's still alive: unsurprisingly, something for babies to drink has all the vital nutrients you need.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
But how does he poop??? :gonk:

Pershing
Feb 21, 2010

John "Black Jack" Pershing
Hard Fucking Core

Not sure, but it sounds like Normandy when he does.

Fellblade
Apr 28, 2009
So despite the posts in here saying not to play HoI3, I did enjoy it last time I played but that was years ago and I never bought the Their Finest Hour expansion.

If I'm going to play the game again regardless, does TFH improve/change things enough to be worth buying?

Also are there any mods worth using?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Fellblade posted:

So despite the posts in here saying not to play HoI3, I did enjoy it last time I played but that was years ago and I never bought the Their Finest Hour expansion.

If I'm going to play the game again regardless, does TFH improve/change things enough to be worth buying?

Main goodies for TFH are the Country Editor, which gives you greater control over your pre-war set-up, and better representation of leader tactics. If those seem nice to you, go for it (but wait for a sale, etc etc)

FWIW I also enjoyed HOI3 a fair bit (after Semper Fi) and TFH reignited my interest when it was released.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


I used to really dislike HOI3, but I've spent about ten hours on my current Italy runthrough over the past couple weeks and I'm, strangely, finding myself having fun.

dublish
Oct 31, 2011


The awfulness of HoI3 tends to be overstated in this thread, especially when we view it through the lens of the post-HoI3 Paradox games. Its execution failed to match its ambition and it never became as polished as HoI2/Darkest Hour, but there's still enough game to be fun. It's probably the most unique title Paradox has released. Definitely worth taking a look at if you can get it on sale.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I like HOI3 much in the same way that I like grognard games such as War in the Pacific: I have a solid grasp of what I need to be doing to achieve my objectives, but I get to the unit and province count and a feeling of ennui just sets in something awful and I move off to something that's easier to control. Certainly I've taken quite a few games where I play a minor European power, carve out a sizable holding for myself, then start a new game by the time I need to start challenging Russia.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I wouldn't really describe HoI2 or DH as polished either for that matter.

David Corbett
Feb 6, 2008

Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world.

Phlegmish posted:

Agreed, it really captures the mindset of the establishment at the peak of liberal modernity very well. You're trying to safeguard your newly uniformized nation-state from any remaining reactionary Ancien Régime elements while at the same attempting to keep the budding socialist movement from becoming too powerful or nationalism from overheating and turning into fascism. All while you're on an unstoppable march towards progress and enlightenment that will inevitably uplift the lower classes and the uncivilized races - provided they know their place.

Paradox, please make Victoria III, but less hands-off than Victoria II.

That puts it perfectly: when you play Victoria, you become the platonic ideal of The Man. I don't think that you really get that experience in any other Paradox game.

David Corbett fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jul 6, 2015

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ThisIsNoZaku
Apr 22, 2013

Pew Pew Pew!
I just read the HoI 4 dev diaries and I'd really appreciate anyone at Paradox sending me a PM of any heinous crimes/foul rituals I need to perform to make it come out sooner.

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