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Jul 1, 2015 18:02
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As a Millennial I posted:create a false identity and sign up for a magazine subscription opsec in ur dark social network
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http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/01/twitter-staff-african-american-diversityquote:Twitter employs just 49 black people out of a total US workforce of 2,910. The tiny number of African American staff – 35 men and 14 women – represents just 1.7% of Twitter’s US staff. internet company suffers from race condition
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Jul 1, 2015 18:28
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Jul 1, 2015 18:35
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zuck is hard at work on psychohistory
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Jul 1, 2015 18:38
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you should be required to put no name at all on job applications
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Jul 1, 2015 18:38
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qntm posted:you should be required to put no name at all on job applications
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Jul 1, 2015 18:43
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coffeetable posted:
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Jul 1, 2015 18:43
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pointers posted:how do they email me then? With your email address? b00tyEater420@gmail.com
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Jul 1, 2015 18:46
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coffeetable posted:internet company suffers from race condition boo this man
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Jul 1, 2015 18:46
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pointers posted:how do they email me then? bitcoin
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Jul 1, 2015 18:48
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coffeetable posted:internet company suffers from race condition oh god really???
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Jul 1, 2015 19:03
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coffeetable posted:internet company suffers from race condition lmbo
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Jul 1, 2015 19:20
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if we're still throwing poo poo at subjunctive, i'd have to go google for it but you know there are people who literally do nothing but go through facebook and report trans peoples names as violations of real name policy if you're gonna go with "well they violated the tos when they signed up", isn't harassment also against the tos?
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Jul 1, 2015 19:34
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he already retreated :-(
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Jul 1, 2015 19:39
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he's REALLY tall btw
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Jul 1, 2015 19:41
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Beast of Bourbon posted:he's REALLY tall btw Why don't you marry him if you like him so much?
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Jul 1, 2015 19:44
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coffeetable posted:internet company suffers from race condition nice
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Jul 1, 2015 19:49
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qntm posted:you should be required to put no name at all on job applications at least we do better than Korea where they commonly require that you include your photograph as part of your application.
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Jul 1, 2015 19:57
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Shifty Pony posted:at least we do better than Korea where they commonly require that you include your photograph as part of your application. also a thing in france for "small businesses"
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Jul 1, 2015 19:57
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coffeetable posted:internet company suffers from race condition d-d-d-d-drat
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Jul 1, 2015 19:58
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computer parts posted:also a thing in france for "small businesses" also a thing in a good chunk of the world us is surprisingly progressive on this aspect of hiring
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Jul 1, 2015 19:59
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mishaq posted:also a thing in a good chunk of the world our jobs don't require any level of not treating employees like poo poo so if you hire someone then hate them you've just wasted your own time and can kick them to the curb for no reason
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Jul 1, 2015 20:26
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too bad Obummer won't get rid of the computer man exception so we're all still slaves
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Jul 1, 2015 20:27
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qirex posted:our jobs don't require any level of not treating employees like poo poo so if you hire someone then hate them you've just wasted your own time and can kick them to the curb for no reason at least we treat everyone like poo poo equally 
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Jul 1, 2015 20:31
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mishaq posted:at least we treat everyone like poo poo equally surprisingly enough there is a tier that is worse than poo poo that's where non-whites and women go
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Jul 1, 2015 21:06
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Pinterest Mom posted:lol fuckerberg straight up lied about the policy today, gj "well you see, there are two main reasons we enforce this real name policy first, so you don't have to worry about being stalked by people you know second, so random people you just met can more easily stalk you"
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Jul 1, 2015 21:08
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Main Paineframe posted:"well you see, there are two main reasons we enforce this real name policy https://medium.com/@zip/a-response-to-zuck-104f920f245e quote:We are the final authority on what our names are. Facebook has set itself up as a gatekeeper to determine our realness. It has set its policy without any real understanding or analysis of how names work, and it’s no surprise that there are a thousand edge cases. It’s also no surprise that users understand that reporting a name will get their friends kicked off, and so use it against people they’d like removed and not people on their friends list going by “Captain Pants”.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:23
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coffeetable posted:internet company suffers from race condition drat
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Jul 1, 2015 21:31
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Luigi Thirty posted:too bad Obummer won't get rid of the computer man exception so we're all still slaves more like indentured servants, save nearly everything you make and you too can retire in seven years
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Jul 1, 2015 21:31
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Cold on a Cob posted:also i used to totally subscribe to the idea that "real names" would fix or at least vastly improve communication on the internet but that's because i'm a white male so my real identity has never been a liability for me
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Jul 1, 2015 21:34
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subjunctive, you are an exceedingly chill and appreciated dude that said the only entities who defend this policy seems to be FB and people with weak and selifsh reasons for demanding people use their real names without having to jump through regulatory hoops there's a lot of good in allowing people to choose how they are identified on a social network as integral to the social world as facebook and i dont think the entitled response of "well you agreed to our tos and theres plenty of other networks u can use!!" is helpful to the debate. appealing to the tos isn't a strong defense against the ethical dilemma of the tos itself. people have good reason to not want to jump through hoops to avoid harassment or as a side effect of anonymous shitheads who don't agree with your new gender identity etc. my proposal to encourage discussion instead of raw bitter analysis: + allow people to use whatever name they please under the following condition: - disallow abusive names or names-as-statements. likely this is too subjective to be enforced reasonably but things like ie: changing my name to "vote ron paul" or "faggotlord", the name needs to be a functioning natural alias like "Hank Johnson" and not "HackTheGibson 420"
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Jul 1, 2015 21:35
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Subjunctive posted:nobody gets hosed over by the policy if they obey the policy they agreed to when they signed up, and which is part of the registration flow. some people get away with violating the policy because their violations are invisible. perhaps you should acknowledge that it's partly your own privilege that prevents you from seeing how this policy (and its enforcement) harms people maybe you want to keep your identities separate because you're involved under an assumed name in one community and want to keep in contact with people there, but you want your close friends, family, the DMV, your bank, etc. to use your legal name. people in roller derby have this problem a lot, they use their derby name because there are crazy fans and skaters alike out there. (I know someone who has had multiple stalkers, with restraining orders to match, and not all were fans.) but that doesn't mean they change their legal name, have magazines sent to their derby name, etc. "adult" performers have this problem on a much larger scale. maybe Facebook should try to be more inclusive. also, your comments about gamergate are pretty bad: there was a woman in the last week who was facing wide scale harassment on Facebook for having an opinion, reporting the harassment, and being told repeatedly it didn't violate Facebook's community guidelines. then her account was suspended for violating community standards for showing screen shots of the harassment she received! Subjunctive, you need to take a step back and really look at some of the behavior of the organization before you defend it instead of trying to help it do better.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:45
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subjunctive is gonna need an extended magnet rubbing session after this blowback!
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Jul 1, 2015 21:46
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eschaton posted:perhaps you should acknowledge that it's partly your own privilege that prevents you from seeing how this policy (and its enforcement) harms people yeah but... maybe those people just shouldn't use facebook
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Jul 1, 2015 21:48
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As a Millennial I posted:yeah but... maybe those people just shouldn't use facebook maybe nobody should use facebook
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Jul 1, 2015 22:03
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Jul 1, 2015 22:04
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1. Using a "stage name" to promote your roller derby or your burgeoning career as a sex worker/twitch streamer is contrary to the stated purpose of Facebook and not typical by any means. I don't see a substantial difference between that and Mr. Ron Paul2016. Get a business account for that kind of crap. 2. Not to get all victim-blamey, buuuuuut using a public social network account with personally identifiable information is opening yourself up to stalking regardless of whether you're using your "real name" or not (see: Aatrek). 3. A Facebook account isn't an inalienable right. People get along just fine without them. Facebook has decided, for a variety of very good published reasons (and probably a lot more that have to do with targeted ads), that people shouldn't be able to shitpost on their website anonymously. So what?
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