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Angry Grimace posted:They're just one off cards anyways, the fact you could make a similar card for every color doesn't mean its a cycle. I mean, technically, the Sword cycle is incomplete because we don't have Allied ones but that isn't happening. The Sword cycle is actually a cycle, just of enemy-coloured swords. And the Future Sight futureshifted cards are, by themselves a cycle (of Rare, Ally-coloured futureshifted duals). More specifically they were designed from the start with a different mechanic hinting at a potential cycle of each. Source A cycle of cards, each of which can be its own cycle. Time Spiral Block  That said, I don't think we'll see one of these cycles yet. The ones that aren't too weird for a Core Set (even though Origins isn't one, but also is one), are too powerful for one. If I HAD to choose one, I'd go with the filter lands, but they were printed in Shadowmoor so... Serperoth fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jul 1, 2015 |
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A horizon canopy cycle would be fine I think. It's basically a cycle land that takes a land drop. Granted it comes in untapped, but it also always deals damage. The only modern deck that runs more than 1-2 is bogles. I guess maybe some faster decks like infect and burn would run sets of a respective cycle?
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Grove of the Burnwillows more expensive than Taiga. What a world haha The non blue duals were always in poo poo tier anyway. 
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Tonetta posted:it is in the mail!!!! thx  eSporks posted:Just because a card is green and costs more than 4 mana does not mean it belongs in bloom titan. Can we please stop saying this? Amulet Bloom is kind of like the Nic Fit of Modern; it can ramp out so quickly that it can arguably get away with stuff like maindeck Vraska or Sadistic Hypnotist.  Avenger of Zendikar is a good card to bring up, hmm...
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Fingers McLongDong posted:A horizon canopy cycle would be fine I think. It's basically a cycle land that takes a land drop. Granted it comes in untapped, but it also always deals damage. The only modern deck that runs more than 1-2 is bogles. I guess maybe some faster decks like infect and burn would run sets of a respective cycle? No way. Nearly every red deck would play all 8 of them because they don't care about their life totals and they get to change land drops into replacement cards. And a u/w or u/b grove of the burnwillows style land would be way too good for standard. Rinkles posted:What did you like about it? General m15 thoughts. While most of them weren't very good cards the guest designer cards brought some new vision into the game. The Souls were no where near as good as the titans and aside from the red one none of them were unbeatable. The uncommon cycle of the cards that care about lands types were all good and fun. Spectra Ward was not very fun to play against though. The convoke decks were really fun to play and it took people quite a while to figure out how good it was. Then you could also do u/g self bounce, and r/w auras as well. Getting a dragon token from an opponent casting oppressive rays on your brood mother was super sweet.
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How was the White Soul (Theros) not super busted? I remember people on prerelease day in this thread (last one) talking about how good Triplicate Souls was, I'm surprised it was apparently a secret to a lot of other people.
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Jul 2, 2015 00:13
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A lot of local FNMs develop really weird metas, especially wrt drafting and what people actually like to draft.
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Rinkles posted:How was the White Soul (Theros) not super busted? White Soul saw some play in that weird 4-color Control deck that might still be running around. Triplicate Spirits also seems some play but just never really found purchase in the format despite being a Limited/Sealed bomb, especially in multiples.
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edit: didn't realize I was pages behind
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Jul 2, 2015 00:21
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I played against Soul of Theros, Rabblemaster and Hornet Queen that prerelease. I lost all those matches. Also my first time attending one.
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Horizon Canopy and Grove are not loving cycles, people, they're part of the same cycle and they're intended to play to the color pairing. They are not going to print a cycle of Canopies or Groves for all the colors.
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Rinkles posted:How was the White Soul (Theros) not super busted? Oh yeah I forgot about that. If you could untap with Soul of Theros the game was basically over. If they could untap with the red soul you had 2-3 turns before the game was over, but the white one was just game.
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Angry Grimace posted:
Works with Tokens.
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Sigma-X posted:Horizon Canopy and Grove are not loving cycles, people, they're part of the same cycle and they're intended to play to the color pairing. This is true but everyone will continue to think they will cause they did it for Graven Cairns
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Sigma-X posted:Horizon Canopy and Grove are not loving cycles, people, they're part of the same cycle and they're intended to play to the color pairing. Well Graven Cairns was a part of its own cycle, but that's because it was already in a cycle in Shadowmoor and they previewed it in Future Sight. I could see them making a cycle out of the four others if they thought any of them were particularly compelling designs, but they definitely didn't have any plans when they made them.
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Sigma-X posted:Horizon Canopy and Grove are not loving cycles, people, they're part of the same cycle and they're intended to play to the color pairing. Kabanaw posted:Well Graven Cairns was a part of its own cycle, but that's because it was already in a cycle in Shadowmoor and they previewed it in Future Sight. I could see them making a cycle out of the four others if they thought any of them were particularly compelling designs, but they definitely didn't have any plans when they made them. They certainly didn't have a plan in mind of when and where they'd use them (or that they'd really see print), but they were explicitly supposed to hint at a cycle of each. Future Sight is beloved by many, but it did do a lot of lovely things, one of which is convince everyone that every dumb thing they put it in it had to happen, e.g. each one of these cycles of lands or assembling contraptions. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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Jul 2, 2015 01:04
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Yeah I was just kidding about finishing them. Grove in control colors would be gross; interesting that horizon canopy is actually w/g and not w/u or u/b for reasons similar to why grove is r/g.
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Tonetta posted:it's really bad with that deck because it doesn't automatically win the game when I play it Tonetta posted:yeah that's gonna be in my 75 for amulet, just not sure if it's mainboard or sideboard material. leaning towards sideboard What? I'm just not seeing the point of putting it in your list, but I've never piloted the deck.
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Starving Autist posted:What? One costs variable and the other costs 5 without giving anytjing.
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TheKingofSprings posted:One costs variable and the other costs 5 without giving anytjing. I don't think the enchantment is good, I just don't see how the XX guy really contributes much to the game plan either. e: To elaborate, the artifact creature doesn't help you ramp and it seems much less powerful than other things you could be doing with lots of mana, like casting Titan or Hive Mind. What am I missing? Starving Autist fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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Jul 2, 2015 01:48
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So they print Merciless Executioner in DTK, and then they just go ahead and reprint Fleshbag Marauder in Origins? 
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Dungeon Ecology posted:So they print Merciless Executioner in DTK, and then they just go ahead and reprint Fleshbag Marauder in Origins?
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Dungeon Ecology posted:So they print Merciless Executioner in DTK, and then they just go ahead and reprint Fleshbag Marauder in Origins? Meh. Executioner rotates out before Marauder does. And Marauder is ZOMBIEEEEEEE
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E: ^^^^ Origins and Dragons are rotating together as they are the pivot in the awkward transition to 2-set blocks.Dungeon Ecology posted:So they print Merciless Executioner in DTK, and then they just go ahead and reprint Fleshbag Marauder in Origins? At least these are mostly functional reprints. Oreskos Swiftclaw was in JOU and in M15.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:E: ^^^^ Origins and Dragons are rotating together as they are the pivot in the awkward transition to 2-set blocks. Except Executioner was printed in Fate Reforged, not Dragons.
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Fleshbag Marauder + Merciless Executioner + Despoiler of Souls + Elemental Bond Maybe this is supposed to be some kind of weird engine??
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Do we know what the choices are going to be at prerelease? I imagine a color for each PW, not a color pair for each world?
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Actually this prerelease is just going to be an elaborate death trap inspired by the Saw movies. The choices you make are your own.
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So with the Standard rotation When Battle for Zendikar comes out, does Theros rotate out of standard or the entire Theros block?
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The Theros block and M15 are rotating with BFZ.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Fleshbag Marauder + Merciless Executioner + Despoiler of Souls + Elemental Bond Actually Funeral Sword Guy plays well with them, and any of the good Exploit duders.
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Onmi posted:So with the Standard rotation When Battle for Zendikar comes out, does Theros rotate out of standard or the entire Theros block? http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/mm/2014/en_schedule.gif Rinkles posted:Do we know what the choices are going to be at prerelease? I imagine a color for each PW, not a color pair for each world? yes, they announced it somewhere
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Color for each PW. You get a 7 card pack in addition to your 6 packs of MO. Has a rare/mythic in it, does not guarantee a planeswalker.
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Starving Autist posted:I don't think the enchantment is good, I just don't see how the XX guy really contributes much to the game plan either. Tonetta posted:It's good against lili, and it's good in the control matchup when you are afraid that you can't get your pact through but have a cavern of souls to play.
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Jul 2, 2015 02:54
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Unrelated, but I'm only really legit excited for one card in Origins; the new Lili. Which is a shame, most cards get me hella hyped. Bad SotF is okay, I guess.
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So, given that nissa is the only pw worth a crap and green seems up and down busted, it seems like a good choice for the prerelease? The white weenie and blue/red thopter decks looks fun but it's harder to open than big green dudes.
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meanolmrcloud posted:So, given that nissa is the only pw worth a crap and green seems up and down busted, it seems like a good choice for the prerelease? The white weenie and blue/red thopter decks looks fun but it's harder to open than big green dudes. Nissa is probably the weakest of the walkers, actually.
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Pussy Snorkel posted:Nissa is probably the weakest of the walkers, actually. Do explain.
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Other than Chandra the walkers all seem pretty playable.
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I'm thinking of an enchantment deck.
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