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Cocoa Crispies posted:my favorite part is that lennart would rather use servers he's expressly told to not use than just ask the ntp pool if they can use theirs even if they're not a "vendor" or "distribution" yeah -- bit of cognitive dissonance required to ship software and then claim literally anyone else is responsible for using the default settings
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no you see they're called vendor thingummies and if you look up "vendor" in the dictionary you'll see it clearly says etc ergo it's not even worth thinking about doing the obvious right thing qed
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reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? Google didn't tell them not to use them, they said it isn't a good idea because they don't have any reliability guarantees and also keep Google time instead of UTC. His response was: 1) systemd isn't a vendor and can't sign up for a NTP vendor pool, and all the vendors that build products using systemd have already registered their own NTP vendor pools and configured their systemd builds to use them 2) patches to the configure script to complain if you don't specify your own NTP pool servers would be applied 3) the Google NTP servers are good enough for regression tests and nobody's suggested a better alternative but y'all can keep importing reddit drama for no reason
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the best one is "i'm gonna register a vendor pool for you" uh
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pseudorandom name posted:reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? you seem really mad 
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pseudorandom name posted:reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?  "Please change systemd's default time servers to some service that is designed to provide a reliable public NTP service."
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pseudorandom name posted:His response was: so what does the pool.ntp.org page mean when it says that vendor pools are suitable for anyone distributing software and that open source projects are particularly welcome to sign up for one?
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Soricidus posted:so what does the pool.ntp.org page mean when it says that vendor pools are suitable for anyone distributing software and that open source projects are particularly welcome to sign up for one? linux font rendring is so bad it reads like "LENNART POETTERING THIS MEANS NOT YOU, YOU CANNOT USE THESE FREE PUBLIC NTP SERVERS, YOU MUST INSTEAD USE SOME CORPORATE ONES YOU JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO USE"
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Jul 1, 2015 22:56
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Shaggar posted:what "work" would you be doing in a Linux? writing software for linux
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Soricidus posted:basically everything that isn't email, web browsing, and occasionally reluctantly doing something in office because some technophobe is so terrified of pdfs that i can't just use latex lol @ doing something in office in 2015 the only useful office component is excel, and that's not relevant to my job function
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gdocs generally suits my officey needs but ive never used fancy macros or anything on msoffice and the mutual fund lookup stuff in gdocs is handy for the spreadsheet i made for rebalancing
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:lol @ doing something in office in 2015 I received a bug report that contained a single screenshot embedded in a docx a couple of days back. This was from another developer. We make a Linux.
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ZShakespeare posted:I received a bug report that contained a single screenshot embedded in a docx a couple of days back. This was from another developer. We make a Linux. looollll
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ZShakespeare posted:I received a bug report that contained a single screenshot embedded in a docx a couple of days back. This was from another developer. We make a Linux. closed: WONTFIX
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:writing software for linux why aren't you using VMs hosted on the world's most advanced operating system
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hobbesmaster posted:why aren't you using VMs hosted on the world's most advanced operating system apple doesn't make rackmount ipads
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hobbesmaster posted:why aren't you using VMs hosted on the world's most advanced operating system hard to find palm hardware these days
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Progressive JPEG posted:hard to find palm hardware these days the only good palm products ran linux
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hobbesmaster posted:why aren't you using VMs hosted on the world's most advanced operating system hello gentlemen. while i dont normally evangelize for apple i would like to point out that apple osx 10.10 yosemite has hypervisor.framework, which is potentially a real 'game changer' in the industry. its not an exaggeration to say that osx is now the most advanced virtualization operating system http://www.pagetable.com/?p=764 https://github.com/mist64/xhyve
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pram posted:hello gentlemen. while i dont normally evangelize for apple i would like to point out that apple osx 10.10 yosemite has hypervisor.framework, which is potentially a real 'game changer' in the industry. its not an exaggeration to say that osx is now the most advanced virtualization operating system except, of course, for where it is a huge exaggeration to say that
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enterprise grade virtualization, built on a solid UNIX foundation
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pram posted:enterprise grade virtualization, built on a solid UNIX foundation nothing apple does is enterprise grade
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fly away troll
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pram posted:hello gentlemen. while i dont normally evangelize for apple 
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Captain Foo posted:nothing apple does is enterprise grade
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Captain Foo posted:nothing apple does is anything grade
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of course, apple can't do enterprise. only top notch quality assured software from microsoft and the cohesive, non-fractured peer-reviewed open source linux are acceptable in the enterprise environment.
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lets look at the facts idiots osx, today, comes out of the box with a robust virtualization framework. thats every mac with yosemite. windows? who even knows what versions come with hyper-v? do you need windows server ultimate? and linux well. lol. you have the choice of downloading a modified kernel with xen, and managing all its horrible deps. or kvm. or lxc. or docker. or rkt. or openvz. or.. well now you need to hire a fat stinky guy to manage it all
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Why would someone want to hire you, an OSX admin, for their lunix box?
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why would someone hire an expert in an advanced UNIX system to manage their hobbyist, non-POSIX compliant clone os? there are many reasons, but all would be far beyond your comprehension
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we'll list them anyway number 1: you smell like a deep fryer irl
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deeply ironic accusations coming from self avowed desktop linux users lol
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haha, actually, you're the one who smell- wait hold on gotta jiggle my hand rolled xconfig file
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linux is cool i mean mostly cause everything else is way worse
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pram posted:why would someone hire an expert in an advanced UNIX system to manage their hobbyist, non-POSIX compliant clone os? there are many reasons, but all would be far beyond your comprehension woosh
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linux is great for embedded devices, servers and in VM instances that have the toolchains for them set up shame about embedded toolchains always giving setup instructions for a ubuntu LTS instead of something that actually has long term support like rhel though
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Zlodo posted:woosh yeah idiot i really missed the 'dont sign your posts' joke. gtfo my sight
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