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Nostalgia4Butts posted:realtalk murder anyone who has tried to retire the a-10 execution via avenger cannon gun run
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:execution via avenger cannon gun run By "gun run" you mean nork-style where they just park the plane and rattle off some rounds at the bean counter tied to a post who suggested spiking it, yes? Cause yes.
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Jul 1, 2015 04:07
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Not set to Sail. 111/10
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Ogrel72 posted:Not set to Sail. 111/10 yea they somehow managed to find a lamer song
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Ogrel72 posted:Not set to Sail. 111/10 All the old videos I could find from the "archives" of the Air Wing (ie some cardboard boxes in Miramar) were all from the mid 80s through mid 90s. Every single one was set to Panama by Van Halen or Thunderstruck by AC/DC. The golden age if you ask me
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Why is it always some lovely electronic music? Those are metal as gently caress.
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Nostalgia4Murder posted:metal as gently caress. http://youtubedoubler.com/fTlw I was tempted to use raining blood, but the slow pace of south of haven fits the slow speed of the 'hog.
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Is there any sort of plan for a CAS replacement? There's the Super Tucano but that's still mired in legal action and nowhere near as scary as the A-10. That should be in the requirments for CAS platforms: Reall6 loving scary.
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Casimir Radon posted:Is there any sort of plan for a CAS replacement? There's the Super Tucano but that's still mired in legal action and nowhere near as scary as the A-10. That should be in the requirments for CAS platforms: Reall6 loving scary. The F-35. Yes they're actually serious when they say that.
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Some Libyans have decided all that fancy naval poo poo laying around needs to be put to good use.           Bonus non libya.  
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Casimir Radon posted:Is there any sort of plan for a CAS replacement? There's the Super Tucano but that's still mired in legal action and nowhere near as scary as the A-10. That should be in the requirments for CAS platforms: Reall6 loving scary. There's always the AC-130 I wonder if an A-26 can mount the GAU-8?
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Dilettante. posted:Some Libyans have decided all that fancy naval poo poo laying around needs to be put to good use. It's like watching the evolution of WWI armor.
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Is that a BMP turret? Creative.
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MrYenko posted:The F-35. Yes they're actually serious when they say that. Most (fixed-wing) CAS these days is done with some flavor of PGM, so I don't imagine the F-35 will be any worse at it than any other strike fighter, at least once they get the targeting pod figured out. Especially if they decide "gently caress LO" and load it up with hardpoints. It's a ludicrously expensive and overdesigned asset for that kind of mission, but c'est la multirole. I do like to point to the Super Tucano as the "next-gen A-10 replacement" that people wish for when moaning about retiring the A-10. Aside from the gun, it's got most of the same strengths and weaknesses: slow, fuel efficient, easy to maintain, highly vulnerable to MANPADS. It doesn't have quite the same payload, but you're usually not employing multiple tons of ordnance to take out a building or a few trucks on your typical CAS mission. I think it would be a great thing to have in our inventory for that kind of permissive, flexible, affordable CAS requirement.
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Dilettante. posted:Some Libyans have decided all that fancy naval poo poo laying around needs to be put to good use. There's also the Kurdish Super BRDM-2.  Wingnut Ninja posted:Most (fixed-wing) CAS these days is done with some flavor of PGM, so I don't imagine the F-35 will be any worse at it than any other strike fighter, at least once they get the targeting pod figured out. Especially if they decide "gently caress LO" and load it up with hardpoints. It's a ludicrously expensive and overdesigned asset for that kind of mission, but c'est la multirole. Next-gen A-10 replacement? A Reaper with the Longbow's radar strapped onto the nose.
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C.M. Kruger posted:There's also the Kurdish Super BRDM-2.
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I am personally enjoying all the insane modifications that they are doing to HMMVWs and M113s
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Chinatown posted:I am personally enjoying all the insane modifications that they are doing to HMMVWs and M113s I wonder if any of the apc mods are anything more than just shaped sheet metal. If it's all proper armor plate it's going to add a fuckload of weight to them.
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Fun fact, after adding lots of armor plating to some of our existing fleet of M113s to make them better able to withstand IEDs, the Danish army had to take them back out of use as they were simply too heavy to function. Fake edit: This was after they had to raise the roofs of them as you weren't actually able to sit inside them after all the mods. Nobody thought to check the height of the crew compartment until after they were done retrofitting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbi2UFKNmSI VA "not taking new members."
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Errrr, there's over 750k vets in Georgia alone, and they can't even put in decent roads, mass transit, or balance a budget, and you expect to get into a clinic of your choice just because you walk in? Welcome to Georgia? And Georgia people not being helpful or professional? Why, I never! not caring here fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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loving hell, I have top level 'private' healthcare paid for the government until I die, on top of the UHC we have anyway, because I was hit in the neck by chunks of glass, dislodged by a bullet, that had to be removed from my neck and scone surgically. This also covers my wife, who is foreign, and our two crying poo poo machines basically forever. What the gently caress is wrong with your vet affairs?
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The people who scream loudest about ARE TROOPS are the same ones who don't want to raise taxes to fund their healthcare.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Most (fixed-wing) CAS these days is done with some flavor of PGM, so I don't imagine the F-35 will be any worse at it than any other strike fighter, at least once they get the targeting pod figured out. Especially if they decide "gently caress LO" and load it up with hardpoints. It's a ludicrously expensive and overdesigned asset for that kind of mission, but c'est la multirole. Why a manned prop plane over an attack helicopter or drone equivilant of a Super Tucano? Serious question I know very little about things that fly.
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Plus, I've read some (probably Russian) poo poo saying that the 30mm bullets out of the GAU-8 aren't even enough to penetrate most modern MBT armor unless it gets a perfectly angled hit on a weak spot, making the gun itself pretty pointless
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I'm sure someone the US will bomb in the near future will still be using T-55's or 62's and the 30mm can bust those up pretty well.
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Booblord Zagats posted:Plus, I've read some (probably Russian) poo poo saying that the 30mm bullets out of the GAU-8 aren't even enough to penetrate most modern MBT armor unless it gets a perfectly angled hit on a weak spot, making the gun itself pretty pointless Armor on the top is never very thick and I'm sure it goes through that just fine.
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It's quicker to just dump a hellfire or maverick into the tank 
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Reverand maynard posted:Why a manned prop plane over an attack helicopter or drone equivilant of a Super Tucano? I wouldn't say "over" helos or drones, since all three have useful niches. A turboprop is still faster, longer range, and higher altitude than a helicopter, and manned aircraft still have some useful advantages over drones in a number of areas. CAS places a high value on flexibility and coordination with ground forces, neither of which drones are very good at right now.
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How soon will drone strikes be like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noUTnUpTYIc
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Also, isn't a burst of 30mm rounds cheaper than a Hellfire?
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F-111's killed way more tanks than A-10's in Desert Storm. The ability to carry lots and lots of PGMs seems to be more valuable than being a good strafer. Of course the F-35 is neither.
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convert a10s to drones and fly them over riotous american cities
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PINING 4 PORKINS posted:convert a10s to drones and fly them over riotous american cities Paint them all black first just to REALLY freak people out.
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http://i.imgur.com/5rrO8hJ.webm imgur comments: The initial poof of smoke after the blast isn't wind, it's the heat from the light burning and vaporizing everything it touches. Yeah, see those telephone poles? They're not being blown away, they're boiling. Amazing, the light from the explosion changes the contrast from the camera, making the world look like its gone dark.
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Booblord Zagats posted:Plus, I've read some (probably Russian) poo poo saying that the 30mm bullets out of the GAU-8 aren't even enough to penetrate most modern MBT armor unless it gets a perfectly angled hit on a weak spot, making the gun itself pretty pointless Here are some relevant documents. Basically the T-62's frontal armor is thick enough to stop the GAU-8. http://dsearch.dtic.mil/search?site...G=Google+search Against modern tanks I'd say that while you could probably knock them out from the back, or wreck their suspension from the side/front, it wouldn't be worth trying because close-in defenses are a world apart from what was around when the A-10 was designed. Duke Chin posted:Paint them all black first just to REALLY freak people out. Powder blue with UN emblems.
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Getting penetrations on a modern MBT or not, how useful is the tank going to be after getting strafed by an A-10 anyhow? You might not kill the crew but that tank is still going to be wrecked and needing a rebuild.
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Well, if you aren't getting full armor penetration, that could range from "holy gently caress what was that? Screw it, let's roll" to "holy gently caress we're stuck in a steel coffin" and every gradient in between.
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