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http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2015/07/02/doi-issues-determination-pamunkey-becomes-no-567-first-federally-recognized-tribe-va The Pamunkey Indian Tribe is now federally recognized, the second tribe to get that designation under the Obama administration. Also, quote:After decades of working hard to get recognition for his tribe, Brown says he is now getting ready to take a break as chief. 
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Kafka Esq. posted:Uh, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission just wrapped up and starts with this: Mister Macys posted:Yeah, I know, but somehow I doubt reparations will ever be on the agenda.  I'm not sure how to feel about this. I think right now I'll stick with the U.S. is legitimately horrific in its treatment of Native Americans in numerous ways, but it can be a hell of a lot worse and we should always strive to be better.
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Klaus88 posted:
Anglo Saxons are horrible people.
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Klaus88 posted:
Its still awful poo poo. A tribe can't expand its membership base without having to lay off 90% of its members for 30 years thanks to some 1930's legislation on fractions of blood.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Its still awful poo poo. A tribe can't expand its membership base without having to lay off 90% of its members for 30 years thanks to some 1930's legislation on fractions of blood. Yup, and U.S. states are actively still taking native kids and putting them in white homes because "they couldn't find any suitable native homes" in violation of federal law and often for far less than what it takes to steal a white baby.
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Trabisnikof posted:Yup, and U.S. states are actively still taking native kids and putting them in white homes because "they couldn't find any suitable native homes" in violation of federal law and often for far less than what it takes to steal a white baby. See, this is something which I know a bit about. There really is a lack of 'suitable native homes' up here willing to take in foster children; a lot of families see the children as a revenue stream. It does happen, and shouldn't automatically be dismissed as 'stealing kids' just because poverty is a bitch which has a deleterious affect upon an individual's framework for understanding appropriate childrearing behaviors. Its also an understudied area begging for a landmark quantitative study.
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Trabisnikof posted:Yup, and U.S. states are actively still taking native kids and putting them in white homes because "they couldn't find any suitable native homes" in violation of federal law and often for far less than what it takes to steal a white baby. Another issue, who exactly is a 'native kid'? Is it a child with two parents who are tribe members, but due to their ancestry fall below the blood fraction requirement and are not a tribe member? How about a child with one native parent who is a tribe member and one unknown parent?
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Congratulations to Malia Obama on her new TV internship! http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/07/03/malia-obama-summer-internship-girls-photos-brooklyn
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Swan Oat posted:Congratulations to Malia Obama on her new TV internship! "Sorry we're not moving to New York, honey, how about a 'summer internship' to make up for it?"
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My Imaginary GF posted:Another issue, who exactly is a 'native kid'? Is it a child with two parents who are tribe members, but due to their ancestry fall below the blood fraction requirement and are not a tribe member? How about a child with one native parent who is a tribe member and one unknown parent? Oh it's all hosed up. I'm sure for every illegal there are more legal ones. But when you have the state writing no-bid contracts to group homes in SD also at the exact same time the Lt. Gov. is on the payroll of a group home company, you start to smell something fishy. quote:Native American families feel the brunt of this. Their children make up less than 15 percent of the child population, yet they make up more than half of the children in foster care.
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Trabisnikof posted:Oh it's all hosed up. I'm sure for every illegal there are more legal ones. But when you have the state writing no-bid contracts to group homes in SD also at the exact same time the Lt. Gov. is on the payroll of a group home company, you start to smell something fishy. Please, do trust me, I am well aware. This is why I advocate for privitized prisons run on reservations: if you're going to make money off locking folks up, and institute systems which ensure individuals will get locked up, why not ensure that some of that money goes back to the local community? Far better to support alleviating the conditions of poverty causing folks to get locked up, than it is supporting rural white towns by locking up natives.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Sorry we're not moving to New York Why won't Obama lead?
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Joementum posted:Why won't Obama lead? He is a man with a well-developed love for quality pies, and cannot be better satisfied in that anywhere else.
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Kafka Esq. posted:Anglo Saxons are horrible people. Montreal Gazette, "Extra" of April 25, 1849 posted:When Lord Elgin – he no longer deserves the name of Excellency – made his appearance on the street to retire from the Council Chamber, he was received by the crowd with hisses, hootings, and groans. He was pelted with rotten eggs; he and his aide-de-camps were splashed with the savory liquor; and the whole carriage covered with the nasty contents of the eggs and with mud. When the eggs were exhausted stones were made use of to salute the departing carriage, and he was driven off at a rapid gallop amidst the hootings and curses of his countrymen. That was because the government wanted to give some money to french people.
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Swan Oat posted:Congratulations to Malia Obama on her new TV internship!
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2015/07/02/doi-issues-determination-pamunkey-becomes-no-567-first-federally-recognized-tribe-va Finally gonna get some real casinos in Virginia.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Its still awful poo poo. A tribe can't expand its membership base without having to lay off 90% of its members for 30 years thanks to some 1930's legislation on fractions of blood. Maybe I should have phrased it like this: the US is "least poo poo" when it comes to the natives, which is distinct from "best".
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So how worried should I be over Evenwel v. Abbot? I was pleasantly surprised with the Obamacare and Gay Marriage decisions, but can we count on one of the conservative justices crossing the aisle for One Man, One Vote?
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PomegranateRosehip posted:So how worried should I be over Evenwel v. Abbot? I was pleasantly surprised with the Obamacare and Gay Marriage decisions, but can we count on one of the conservative justices crossing the aisle for One Man, One Vote? Probably not. They need another poo poo decision or two to counterweight PPACA and Marriage, since I'm considering the death penalty one to be the counterpart to the redistricting one and the EPA one to be the counter to the Disparate Impact one.
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Pohl posted:Honest truth... one of my rich bosses, my mentor even, told me to gently caress golf. It was too expensive and a stupid game. This is a guy that made a boat load of money and spent thousands every year rafting dangerous rivers. He even took me rafting down Hells Canyon once. That was a great 3 day trip. The CEO of the company I work at (technically not my "boss" because I'm a contractor, though he likes to think of himself as such) is the counterpoint to yours. He loves golfing and even chose a new office location about 3 or 4 years ago that's a 5 or 10 minute drive from the golf course but a good thirty minutes from his house depending on traffic. He's always finding new ways to hide his golf clubs, as he knows how much money they cost and is constantly paranoid about thieves breaking in (Fact: the only successful break-in we ever had was corporate espionage). I think his thinking is similar to Trump's justification for why golf should remain expensive. He was born in 1947 in Alabama and grew up with an outhouse instead of a bathroom. He spent his youth as a blue collar crane operator and bodybuilder/weightlifter as he worked on his degrees in engineer and theology (the latter of which came from a Baptist college, so exactly how well-versed he is in theology is in doubt) and married the daughter of a Florida millionaire family in I think the late 70s or 80s. He used the inherited millions to start up his company over 25 years ago and become even wealthier. He's the quintessential Trump Millionaire: he married or was born into old money and used what he inherited to become richer. He loves to talk about how he built the place from the ground up with hard work, but it never would have come to pass if he was still making a living running cranes over bridges in Alabama. He's actually embarrassed by this and is afraid of what people will think of him if they find out how rich he is, so despite being extraordinarily rich and running a multi-million dollar corporation that works around the country (and in foreign countries) he runs it all out of a very small office that blends in with the rest of the business park and maintains all of his Baby Boomer Southerner mannerisms and thick accent. He was once very shocked when he discovered that due to the nature of my work, I knew exactly how much money the company was throwing around.
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MonsieurChoc posted:As I near the end of Griftopia, I find myself wanting to strangle Rahm Emanuel through the page. Most people just add him to their ignore list
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My Imaginary GF posted:Please, do trust me, I am well aware. Prisons also provide jobs and when you're looking at 80%+ unemployment (yes, really) it sounds kind of tempting. Holy lol you do not want the tribes running their own prisons though. I grew up on the rez in SD and with all due respect the tribal governments are incredibly dysfunctional and corrupt, not that they don't in turn get hosed over by the state gov't and BIA. Somehow I don't think a casino and prison based economy is terribly healthy for the community, though. My mom works in criminal justice on a reservation in SD, the Rosebud put up a brand spanking new juvenile detention facility I got to tour last time I was home. I can ask about how that's been working out if there's interest in the topic.
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I'd be very interested in that, yeah. And not that most reservations are great but the South Dakota ones seem to be a unique level of hosed. I get the feeling that the political effort and money would be better spent on subsidizing and getting fresh food and supplies into the rez proper (and then you get the taxes also; I believe that was the justification for letting alcohol on Pine Ridge).
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Pellisworth posted:Somehow I don't think a casino and prison based economy is terribly healthy for the community, though. The new hotness is those Native payday loan companies. In reality they're funded by large financial organizations, incorporated on tribal land and employ minimum wage Native Americans in call centers, and the second they wanted to regulate them they started going "aha, Whitey trying to keep us in poverty again"
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:I'd be very interested in that, yeah. Part of the reason they're so hosed is geographical isolation. They were settled on crap land in the middle of nowhere, glance at a SD map and you'll see the Rosebud and Pine Ridge aren't even near major highways. The interstate is a good hour or two away. The Rosebud built a casino but it doesn't make any money because despite western SD (Badlands, Black Hills, Deadwood, Mt. Rushmore etc) being a major tourist destination they're not traveling anywhere near the rez. They do get subsidized commodities, when I mentioned 80% unemployment that was not hyperbole. There are no jobs to be had. Most of the tribal members live in terrible run-down government housing and subsist on commodity rations. The schools are bad, it's really tough to break the cycle of poverty. There have been efforts to get some jobs, last big proposals were for a pig processing plant and back in '08 Bill Clinton stopped by and talked us up about how Hillary would bring wind power farms. Neither of those happened. Edit: if you want to really get your blood boiling, read up on how Janklow treated the reservations when he was governor. Pellisworth fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jul 3, 2015 |
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Do you like Forbes? I like Forbes.quote:In today’s economy, determining what is overtime and what isn’t is not entirely straightforward. Some workers value flexibility to work on weekends and at odd hours, which employers can compensate through additional vacation days or higher bonuses. Imposing a rigid structure on the exact form of compensation or the nature of the employer-employee relationship is unlikely to be beneficial to workers or employers in the long-run.
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So the point that piece of trash is making is that while clearly the ACA made everyone cut hours down below 30/wk, raising the OT threshold is going to make them cut hours again to avoid paying OT for hours their
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And of course even if they cut overtime hours, there's still work to be done, and that's the point. You either pay people for what they're really working or you hire more people. Win/win for society as a whole. e: and as it only applies to salaried workers, idg what sub-30 hour PT jobs have to do with anything. If there's been some massive movement to convert salaried jobs to hourly to avoid providing healthcare, I haven't heard about it. Where hours have been cut to get out of that has been in jobs that were already hourly, I thought. ReidRansom fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jul 3, 2015 |
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ReidRansom posted:And of course even if they cut overtime hours, there's still work to be done, and that's the point. You either pay people for what they're really working or you hire more people. Win/win for society as a whole. Or it'll still be "yeah either you work unpaid or you get fired, who cares if it's illegal because we have lawyers and you don't" like in many cases now.
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ReidRansom posted:And of course even if they cut overtime hours, there's still work to be done, and that's the point. You either pay people for what they're really working or you hire more people. Win/win for society as a whole. It's a conservative disorder where they think everyone will just hack off their nose to spite their face because they do it and what they do it totally loving normal god damnit don't you dare disagree you loving terrorist
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Not an actual game. I am disappointed. 
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I can honestly say that is the best sprite art created direct relation to an economic article I have ever see. 
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ReidRansom posted:Not an actual game. I am disappointed. as real as star citizen
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Luigi Thirty posted:Or it'll still be "yeah either you work unpaid or you get fired, who cares if it's illegal because we have lawyers and you don't" like in many cases now. 
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When will Krugtron the Invicible be playable in Super Robot Wars? 
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I don't think murder and smoking under a non-smoking sign are quite the same thing.
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PomegranateRosehip posted:So how worried should I be over Evenwel v. Abbot? I was pleasantly surprised with the Obamacare and Gay Marriage decisions, but can we count on one of the conservative justices crossing the aisle for One Man, One Vote? Honestly, counting by eligible voters and by total population both seem completely reasonable in different circumstances. Prisons are the big one, I don't see why a prisoner should count for the district the prison they are in instead of their actual area of residence. Prisons tend to be in rural conservative locations, it's not like their local district is going to represent their interests. In other cases counting by population seems to be the way to go, I don't think there's a one size fits all solution here. Pellisworth posted:Prisons also provide jobs and when you're looking at 80%+ unemployment (yes, really) it sounds kind of tempting. Holy lol you do not want the tribes running their own prisons though. I grew up on the rez in SD and with all due respect the tribal governments are incredibly dysfunctional and corrupt, not that they don't in turn get hosed over by the state gov't and BIA. Sounds like a good hedge, when the economy gets bad demand for casinos goes down but prisons go up! Being serious though, really casinos are only as good as their location. Tribes with casinos in good locations do incredibly well, but that's pretty rare which is why overall the situation is very grim.
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