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Sjoewe
Nov 30, 2008
Found this on Facebook.

The_joy_of_touring_with_modular.jpg




:v:

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renderful
Mar 24, 2003

You'll love me, I promise.
disarm the bomb!

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



I'm considering ditching my 61-key boat-anchor monstrosity of a MIDI controller, since I don't really do as much music as sound design these days, but I'm considering saving up and buying a keyboard synth to replace it. That being said, and individual qualities of synths aside, am I crazy for wanting a synth to double-team as an instrument and a DAW controller?

Right now I'm considering saving up (probably for a year and a half +) for an Elektron Analog Keys, since I love the way it sounds.

Mr. Sharps
Jul 30, 2006

The only true law is that which leads to freedom. There is no other.



sofullofhate posted:

Lots of handy stuff.

What's yours?

Cool, I never have the patience for multi tracking so I do everything in one take. Octatrack sending midi clock and notes to my modular (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/67852) + any software synths (thats probably gonna change when my analog 4 gets here lol), also running percussion with lots of programmed in one shots and effects on the crossfader.

Sometimes I do berlin school style sequencer playing, transposing sequences up and down over other sampled sequences tracks or just on their own, but lately I've been doing more nitty gritty midi programming on the octatrack, building lots of patterns trying to keep some sort of song structure in mind as I do it, switching between them live and muting parts/bringing them in, basically acting as a human clip launcher. Makes me wish I had more arms, but it's a lot more fun for me than shuffling tracks around in a DAW.

I posted a vid earlier of a song I made that shows this process a bit https://youtu.be/aLJu2PFkwds. These days all ableton does is pull compresson/EQ duties and run my favorite vsts (Aalto hands down).

Mr. Glass
May 1, 2009

Mr. Sharps posted:

I never have the patience for multi tracking so I do everything in one take.

oh good i thought i was the only one :hfive:

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

MockingQuantum posted:

I'm considering ditching my 61-key boat-anchor monstrosity of a MIDI controller, since I don't really do as much music as sound design these days, but I'm considering saving up and buying a keyboard synth to replace it. That being said, and individual qualities of synths aside, am I crazy for wanting a synth to double-team as an instrument and a DAW controller?

Right now I'm considering saving up (probably for a year and a half +) for an Elektron Analog Keys, since I love the way it sounds.

Same here, but I've been looking at both the Analog Keys as well as the JD-XA.

Speaking of which, there have been a ton of better demo's of the XA after the horrible official ones.

https://soundcloud.com/gearjunkies/sets/roland-jd-xa-demo-sounds-www
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezU598AQtLY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyC_5OBy7sA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MdlCpwrfM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD-wDVqaaLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-dhmx5EC4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD_RAheFnxI


And also one that Dan would be proud of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqX0JtjjWhQ

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

Mr. Sharps posted:

Cool, I never have the patience for multi tracking so I do everything in one take. Octatrack sending midi clock and notes to my modular (https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/67852) + any software synths (thats probably gonna change when my analog 4 gets here lol), also running percussion with lots of programmed in one shots and effects on the crossfader.

Sometimes I do berlin school style sequencer playing, transposing sequences up and down over other sampled sequences tracks or just on their own, but lately I've been doing more nitty gritty midi programming on the octatrack, building lots of patterns trying to keep some sort of song structure in mind as I do it, switching between them live and muting parts/bringing them in, basically acting as a human clip launcher. Makes me wish I had more arms, but it's a lot more fun for me than shuffling tracks around in a DAW.

I posted a vid earlier of a song I made that shows this process a bit https://youtu.be/aLJu2PFkwds. These days all ableton does is pull compresson/EQ duties and run my favorite vsts (Aalto hands down).

Wow, dude, that's beautiful. Shades of Aphex Twin and Orbital and Mouse on Mars here (these are high praise from me!)!

Mr. Glass posted:

oh good i thought i was the only one :hfive:

Back when I had tonnes of hardware synths, I rarely multi-tracked. I certainly never did when I was all ITB (exception of occasionally freezing a track or three if CPU was pegged). I did a bunch of drums / bass / guitar / vox stuff by myself though, and it got me into the "thinking ahead about what the song might be" habit, and I guess multi-tracking electronic music came kind of naturally when I impulse-bought a big hardware monosynth and had no other synths at all. :) So it hasn't always been my workflow, it kind of evolved to that out of necessity.

I suppose I could add plug-ins to the mix, but I'm just really enjoying patching everything up as I want it, and I hate to be that guy but OH MY GOD IT SOUNDS SO MUCH BETTER TO DO IT ON THE MODULAR (sorry, µHe, I love Diva but it just isn't the real thing). I just need 6 more 9U racks so I can stop multi-tracking and do stuff live I guess? :suicide:

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




ProAudioStar is having a sample sale with a few synths on the cheap.

http://www.proaudiostar.com/landing...d4189-407793517

Radiapathy
Dec 3, 2011

Snooping as usual, I see.

MockingQuantum posted:

That being said, and individual qualities of synths aside, am I crazy for wanting a synth to double-team as an instrument and a DAW controller?
I made the same decision a couple weeks ago. I had been shopping around for 61-key MIDI controllers for a few weeks and thought I had settled on the Roland A-800PRO... but then I thought, "Wouldn't it be nice to be able to just play some music without having to load up a DAW or a plugin host first?"

So I started looking at synths... but then I remembered that the whole reason I was in the market to begin with was because I wanted something with DAW control, and the synths I looked at didn't have the kind of controls I was looking for (transport, assignable pads, etc).

So I ended up buying the least sexy keyboard in the world:



Roland FA-06. I actually really like it.

AxeBreaker
Jan 1, 2005
Who fucking cares?

dj bobby bieber posted:

Venting time.

I pre-ordered a Prophet 6 and it came in last week. I'm pretty sure it's going to go back.

While it's a great synth, there's a ton of day one bugs with the MIDI/USB implementation that make it really difficult to use. They've issued a new firmware update, but you need to transmit it using something other than USB. I don't want to have to tack on more money to get the thing to work over USB.

Second, the keyboard is much better than the 08 I had, but the build quality on the pots is NOT good for a $2800 synth. They have a level of give to them that makes them feel super flimsy. The preset buttons, on the other hand, are great.

Lastly, the stupid Prophet 6 sticker is starting to peel off. On its own. If this were in the $2000 range, I might be more forgiving - but the Moog Voyager is in the same class, and that thing feels like it would survive a nuclear detonation.

I'm so disappointed :(

I tried one out today, breifly and the pots didn't seem that bad, but then I'm not used to moog level equipment.

I also tried the KORG ARP Odyssey and couldn't quite get it under control in the 5 minutes I had to play with it. I will say that the MKI special edition sliders looked authentically poo poo and I am glad I opted for the standard MKIII.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Marc Doty is in the middle of rolling out videos for the Odyssey at present. Will probably take a month or so for the whole set at the rate he's going (he's doing P6 and the Leipzig right now as well).

Startyde
Apr 19, 2007

come post with us, forever and ever and ever
Beatstep Pro finally shipping to stores. 2015, year of the sequencer.

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Startyde posted:

Beatstep Pro finally shipping to stores. 2015, year of the sequencer.

FINALLY. Take my money you beautiful Frenchmen/women.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Fuckin' awesome, although it's been delayed enough that I don't think I'd trust the 1.0 software.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
God dammit I need to stop watching that video

Bilal
Feb 20, 2012

Startyde posted:

Beatstep Pro finally shipping to stores. 2015, year of the sequencer.

Cool.

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

Startyde posted:

Beatstep Pro finally shipping to stores. 2015, year of the sequencer.

I want one of these so drat bad. That is a brilliant video.

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

The knobs are touch sensitive, jesus. I was already pretty sold on this but extra little touches like that are golden.

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:

The knobs are touch sensitive, jesus. I was already pretty sold on this but extra little touches like that are golden.

Uh.

Sweetwater has them for $250. How is that possible?

I will be selling my Dark Time, buying a Beatstep Pro, and also buying some more modules because MODULAR DAMMIT

:getin:

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea
drat that thing is amazing.
I'm getting my eurorack in summer, then I'll get this to clock it, use it with the shruthi at the same time and then build up a little skiff of drum modules. That'll be my setup finished, no more gear until I've done an album or 4 eps.

Mr. Glass
May 1, 2009

cubicle gangster posted:

That'll be my setup finished, no more gear until I've done an album or 4 eps.

good luck, eurorack is ridiculously addictive :homebrew:

Dotcom Jillionaire
Jul 19, 2006

Social distortion
Declaring independence from my bank account this holiday weekend

Mr. Glass
May 1, 2009
looks like you forgot the power supply

is that one of those synthrotek cases like Mr. Sharps has?

Dotcom Jillionaire
Jul 19, 2006

Social distortion
One in the same, yes. The PSU plugs into one of the 1U tiles for power. I actually plan to sell off the case soon since I'm building a 12U rack into an old briefcase I found at the thrift store. Still though the Synthrotek case is a stellar option for a perfectly portable modular system. This is probably the last system I'll rack into this particular case however :saddowns:.

Decided to rack this particular configuration up last night at 2am to bring with me to a jam session tonight with a few friends.

Dotcom Jillionaire fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jul 3, 2015

Mr. Glass
May 1, 2009

Dotcom Jillionaire posted:

One in the same, yes. The PSU plugs into one of the 1U tiles for power. I actually plan to sell off the case soon since I'm building a 12U rack into an old briefcase I found at the thrift store. This is probably the last system I'll rack into the Synthrotek case :saddowns:

do you have a pic of the briefcase you got? I haven't been able to find a briefcase that was deep enough that I could fit modules in both the base and the lid. my current plan is to build a 12Ux104hp briefcase style case out of plywood.

e: i built 6Ux84hp into an old samsonite briefcase and it turned out pretty well but that's just nowhere big enough to accomadate my GAS :(

Mr. Glass fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Jul 3, 2015

Dotcom Jillionaire
Jul 19, 2006

Social distortion
I've got my work cut out for me but it should be a fun project. Not going to ditch the Synthrotek case until the new one is complete, i don't know if briefcase is the right word for this thing either but you get the idea. I'll be able to get 12U at 86HP with a little extra room to store power bricks and patch cables



Mr. Glass
May 1, 2009
^^ dang! that looks perfect. although i would be slightly worried about its structural integrity once you load it up with modules.

if anyone cares, the electribe 2 firmware just got an update: http://www.korg.com/us/support/download/software/0/367/1513/

AxeBreaker
Jan 1, 2005
Who fucking cares?

Mr. Glass posted:

^^ dang! that looks perfect. although i would be slightly worried about its structural integrity once you load it up with modules.

if anyone cares, the electribe 2 firmware just got an update: http://www.korg.com/us/support/download/software/0/367/1513/

Woop, I have been playing with mine so gonna load this asap.

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
Broke down, ordered replacement encoders for the ZR-76 from syntaur for the extortionary price of, like $12 each. gently caress it, tired of looking at it, tired of it taking up space.

Startyde
Apr 19, 2007

come post with us, forever and ever and ever
Yamaha Reface photos
Info was up on one of their foreign language sites and since pulled but-

quote:

· 4-operator FM sound engine offers the additional synthesis of dynamic and expressive . The new features of this engine is to provide continuous feedback to the operator variable enables a wide range of sound production.
· Two programmable effects blocks ( seven effect types per block )
· Effect Type : VCM Touch Wah , VCM Flanger , VCM phaser , chorus, delay, reverb and distortion
• Direct access is available in four parameters simultaneously with multi- touch control interface. · Use 32 voice memory positions can be saved and play your favorite sound.

meh :smithcloud:

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
I don't see why they couldn't do 6-op, or even reproduce the SY-77 engine. Moore's law and all. Goddamnit Yamaha. Just rerelease the FS1R so I can get FM the gently caress out of my system.

Startyde
Apr 19, 2007

come post with us, forever and ever and ever
Yeeep. SY99 or FS1r with modern connectivity (really just sample/patch management is what I'd want personally) would be amazing. I get the feeling these won't be toy-cheap either. I'm sure Yamaha is making these because of Korg's success but will miss the point entirely. 250~350$ is my guess. If the YC sounds half decent I look forward to scooping it up on clearance I suppose.
Judging an unreleased, unspecified entire line of synthesizers from photos and a leak of one's specs??? Call the synth police.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Startyde posted:

Yamaha Reface photos
Info was up on one of their foreign language sites and since pulled but-


meh :smithcloud:

Images of all of them have been released.

http://data.yamaha.jp/sdb/product/image/main/raw/r/reface_cs/D7B9A5841BDE476884769917B7DDE310_12073.jpg
http://data.yamaha.jp/sdb/product/image/main/raw/r/reface_dx/77D9C7D619C249349BC75E9C5339EF20_12073.jpg
http://data.yamaha.jp/sdb/product/image/main/raw/r/reface_yc/6541F6505FE54E05A0C1FECC84D79190_12073.jpg
http://data.yamaha.jp/sdb/product/image/main/raw/r/reface_cp/1A7E1168D2EF4E6FBA7D822AF7FEC18C_12073.jpg

Can't wait to relive the joy of programming the DX7 through even fewer control options!

The CP looks kind of interesting if you want some cheep outbound piano / EP sounds but that's it.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe
Gearslutz is losing their poo poo over this

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Also, LOL @ the YC and CP model from that same 'leak'. Is anyone really asking for a standalone transistor organ emulation, or an inevitably-sample-based electric piano? The market already has that poo poo covered with infinitely-more flexible machines.

The DX and the CS make a little sense, but not the others.

e: If the CP were physical modeling, it might be interesting.
e2: LOL, it's not.

Tan Dumplord fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Jul 6, 2015

Startyde
Apr 19, 2007

come post with us, forever and ever and ever

quote:

CP:
6 keyboard types (rdI, rdII, wr, clv, toy, cp)
Max Poly 128
Engine SCM + AWM2

YC:
5 organ types (hammond, vox, farfisa, a (Japanese transistor organ) ,Yamaha YC-45D
Max Poly 128
Engine AWM (organ flutes)

CS:
5 Osc types
Max Poly 8
Engine AN

Cool AWM again. AN is probably just ported PLG-AN code unchanged :suicide:

Scatterfold
Nov 4, 2008



:cripes: what a waste of a reboot

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Glad I got the last Yamaha keyboard to do anything interesting (EX-5). Still in love with loving around with the VL engine, and the FDSP is amazing. Per-note touch wah, overdrive, enveloped phase effects, PWM any waveform.

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer
I want one just because they're so god drat cute :kimchi:



It's like a literal babby synth.

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A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

sliderule posted:

Also, LOL @ the YC and CP model from that same 'leak'. Is anyone really asking for a standalone transistor organ emulation, or an inevitably-sample-based electric piano? The market already has that poo poo covered with infinitely-more flexible machines.

The DX and the CS make a little sense, but not the others.

e: If the CP were physical modeling, it might be interesting.
e2: LOL, it's not.

aaaaaaaand interest in these is over.

If the CP has physical modeling or the CS has ACB stuff the TR8 & TB3 has then they would legit be cool to have even at something like $4-500.

The DX line has always needed a massive amount of controls and this is seriously the wrong format to reboot that line.

The YC... the VR-09 is leagues better and will only cost like $400 more. Or you could get an electro and never need an organ keyboard ever again.

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