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The BRD problems are something only bleeding edge content players should be worrying about but the Machinist DPS thing is noticable even in LLDR. Granted it's been improving as I get a better handle on the class and it's sort of hosed up counter-intuitive nuances but the amount of effort I have to put into keeping up with a monk or a dragoon doing a six-step linear combo is kind of exhausting
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Zerilan posted:Had my first failed run at Bismarck EX and I think it's convinced me to install ACT. Our dps seemed a lot worse than it should have been for everyone's gear, and I'm not sure how much of it was me not doing as much damage as I should be. I was parsing around 440-450 DPS sitting in Shield Oath the majority of the time at ilvl170 for my Bismarck Extreme clear, and I've seen it cleared with all of the DPS doing about 550-600. The biggest hurdle a lot of the time for PF groups is neither of the healers ever turning on Cleric Stance, leading to 2% wipes on the snakes or Vanu adds still loving around on the platform when it's time for Corona.
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Vermain posted:I was parsing around 440-450 DPS sitting in Shield Oath the majority of the time at ilvl170 for my Bismarck Extreme clear, and I've seen it cleared with all of the DPS doing about 550-600. The biggest hurdle a lot of the time for PF groups is neither of the healers ever turning on Cleric Stance, leading to 2% wipes on the snakes or Vanu adds still loving around on the platform when it's time for Corona. On that note, how much DPS should a monk in 180 gear be doing, at least on a striking dummy?
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For Bismarck surely hitting foe's is worth bringing one BRD.
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Zerilan posted:On that note, how much DPS should a monk in 180 gear be doing, at least on a striking dummy? The general range I've seen reported for most DPS classes at 3 minutes is 800-900. I'm not in a static doing parses, though, so take that with a grain of salt.
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hobbesmaster posted:For Bismarck surely hitting foe's is worth bringing one BRD. If you dont need the Mana song foe's really won't make up for the damage difference
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Stormgale posted:If you dont need the Mana song foe's really won't make up for the damage difference Yeah. The biggest hurdle on Bismarck Ex isn't Corona or Carapace, but killing adds quickly. The snakes are a wipe if you can't down them fast enough, and the small Vanu adds will eventually start casting a spell that reduces the island's vitality. The difference between a party that kills adds fast and a party that doesn't is a good two or three more shots at DPSing Corona. This means that the big reason for bringing along Foe Requiem (single-target burn) isn't as prominent. Vermain fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jul 6, 2015 |
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Zerilan posted:On that note, how much DPS should a monk in 180 gear be doing, at least on a striking dummy? I do around 1050 at i177 with 180 weapon without food, party or potions.
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http://guildwork.com/broadcasts/55922317002aa8305213e357 Works for the most part. Might miss a few.
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Minrad posted:The intent wasn't to make it so that omnicrafting isn't viable, it was to make it so that you could make do with having just a few crafters leveled, rather than needing a whole bunch of poo poo at max to have all the abilities you need to craft poo poo well So basically absolutely nothing has changed and it's still going to be best to have 8 crafters and bleed forever as you get Lucis2 for all of them. Great.
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speaking of ranged deeps, my static is looking for any non black mage ranged dps to fill out our roster. anyone interested should be prepared to tackle alexander savage and generally be pretty good about slamming your dick/tits/all of the above in a door repeatedly without getting mad. make some noise in our thread: http://forums.ffgoons.com/showthread.php?tid=27369 and/or bug Holli Would or Mara Driss in game
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nuru posted:So basically absolutely nothing has changed and it's still going to be best to have 8 crafters and bleed forever as you get Lucis2 for all of them. You could always specialize in the ones you want and get the fancy tools for them and ignore the rest? I mean, functionally that's the same as them having added the restrictions. It'll just be self-imposed.
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nuru posted:So basically absolutely nothing has changed and it's still going to be best to have 8 crafters and bleed forever as you get Lucis2 for all of them. The impression I got was that your specialist ones will always be fine by themselves, but in order to be competent at a non-specialist craft, you have to be a fully-melded, self-hating omnicrafter.
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nuru posted:So basically absolutely nothing has changed and it's still going to be best to have 8 crafters and bleed forever as you get Lucis2 for all of them. For the average player who just wants to make a few items on the side the exact opposite of this statement will be what is true. If you want to be able to produce every item in the game yes you will need to level all your DoH classes and have extravagant and costly melds, but wanting to be able to produce everything is like wanting to be max ilv on all your combat jobs. You can do it but you need to be dedicated and willing to endure some unpleasant time/resource investment.
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Wasted a lot of time / energy on a sub par DPS class
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lol I never noticed Machinists got an ability with orz as the icon
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vanbags posted:The MSQ got me to 53 before I even stepped foot into Heavensward content. I think that's pretty significant. The only thing I touched was MSQ and my daily roulettes. How many days did it take to finish the patch 2.5! Each of those quests give 10k exp, alone the patches would barely get you to 51. The bulk of the exp you got had to be from running your daily roulettes. There's are around 80 patch quests, there is not over 300 of them. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Jul 6, 2015 |
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nuru posted:So basically absolutely nothing has changed and it's still going to be best to have 8 crafters and bleed forever as you get Lucis2 for all of them. Not really, since the bis gear is going to be weekly capped scrip items (uhh probably I guess technically they could not be BIS but that would be so pointless) that are class specific?
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nuru posted:So basically absolutely nothing has changed and it's still going to be best to have 8 crafters and bleed forever as you get Lucis2 for all of them. They can't program around the autism that leads to you thinking like this. If you're already an omnicrafter and sperging the gently caress out, the specialist system isn't for you.
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Failboattootoot posted:Not really, since the bis gear is going to be weekly capped scrip items (uhh probably I guess technically they could not be BIS but that would be so pointless) that are class specific? This kinda needs to be repeated
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Stormgale posted:Wasted a lot of time / energy on a sub par DPS class In the year 2525, machinist who were slow to come to power soon became our overlords. All dps slots in groups are all machinist.
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Tenzarin posted:In the year 2525, machinist who were slow to come to power soon became our overlords. All dps slots in groups are all machinist. You might say we all... jumped the gun.
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Thumbtacks posted:
ok but Where's Hawk's Eye on your bars?
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Virulence posted:ok but and people wonder why mch is "underperforming"
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Stormgale posted:You might say we all... jumped the gun. I watched a machinist do moves while doing a fate. They gotta have the most random rotation. Gun at a random postition into backflip/shoot gun back into a idle gun hold.
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MadFriarAvelyn posted:They don't. 10 is the max, which you get at 50. I just started the game, my doh classes are around 15 but before I get more classes up there I want to know how long I'm going to have to grind to make it worth my while. When does the class get another cross class slot after the first one it starts with? Do I seriously have to grind to 50 with only one cross skill?
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CatelynIsAZombie posted:I just started the game, my doh classes are around 15 but before I get more classes up there I want to know how long I'm going to have to grind to make it worth my while. When does the class get another cross class slot after the first one it starts with? Do I seriously have to grind to 50 with only one cross skill? You should get one every 5 levels. You'll be suffering for abilities since a lot of the good ones are higher level on the classes (Careful Synth 2 on Weaver for example.)
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Gathering chat: I'm now 54, but when I was 53 miner I was having serious trouble gathering Yellow Quartz or Chalcocite collectibles. What is a good rotation to use? I have 575 GP, and my Perception and Gathering are at: 402 and 407, respectively. I've tried using Toil > Methodical > Discerning Eye > Methodical and Toil > Impulsive > Methodical x2 if proc or Toil > Impulsive > Discerning + Methodical if no proc, but I haven't tried Reveal Hit > Discerning + Methodical > Discerning + Methodical > Methodical Are there any other rotations I can use that would be more guaranteed, or is it more "get more perception u scrub" like I think it is?
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Is there any point to do golden saucer stuff after expansion? I'm a new player. Also is Triple Triad something you can play against other people and is it fun?
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Reason posted:Is there any point to do golden saucer stuff after expansion? I'm a new player. Also is Triple Triad something you can play against other people and is it fun? Same reason as before: cool glamors and because you like the mini games.
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Failboattootoot posted:because you like the mini games. I loved cuffing a curr 
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Rafzakael posted:Gathering chat: Get 600 GP first of all, shouldn't be hard with the first tier of gathering jewelry and some light melding. Also don't use toil, it's a huge waste of GP for little payoff. The most reliable method is usually going to be 3x methodical with a discerning eye on each, and two collections. At 57 you'll be able to substitute a discerning eye for single mind, which will allow you an extra collection. If you can't hit the min rarity with that method, get more perception.
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Rei_ posted:Real talk has anyone ever been asked to leave a dungeon? I've seen people get super salty over healers contributing to DPS but normally roulette is pretty chill I've votekicked dead weight and/or rear end in a top hat players in dozens of dungeons and trials. It wasn't usually DPS related, just the player being an utter rear end in a top hat or doing things like being completely unable to dodge the most basic AOE and making us wipe for 30 minutes on the first boss in great library. Only time I've been votekicked is tanking bone dragon in the center when I'd run CT solo. Usually people in the raid would intentionally wipe us too instead of doing the fight because there are lots of manbabies playing this game and people on our data center are utter insane about bone dragon being tanked to the north.
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if you've votekicked dozens of people i think you might be caring about some weird poo poo because i've votekicked like 2 people across like 250 dungeons
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I made a mistake and downloaded the free trial. Got a dude on Ultros and Exodus, and may even try for some more before my two weeks is up. I only wish your powers got up and running faster after changing classes--I could run around Botanying or whatever and jump into interesting fights quickly. I also wish I could find clothes that looked decent. Things aren't bad enough to be funny most of the time.
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Rei_ posted:Real talk has anyone ever been asked to leave a dungeon? I've seen people get super salty over healers contributing to DPS but normally roulette is pretty chill Halatali NM, me levelling my BLM for The Professional title. SCH healer put themselves on follow on me, and told me to keep up behind the tank, so they could AFK. Because they were doing us all a favor by being there. /angrynerdmode on Cue me doing my level best to DPS at the very limits of my range, using the leash distance of SCH and SCH's fairy to leave fairy just outside of range for healing. And to lock fairy and SCH outside of the first boss's door. Got kicked, sent a report. Have a screenshot for funsies:  ("friend" doesn't make any sense in this context, this was a DF group, I didn't know any of them. Except you, Zyra Zephyr. Now I know you. gently caress you.) SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Jul 6, 2015 |
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aegof posted:I only wish your powers got up and running faster after changing classes--I could run around Botanying or whatever and jump into interesting fights quickly. Just switch in a Sanctuary. quote:I also wish I could find clothes that looked decent. Things aren't bad enough to be funny most of the time. The Foestriker's/Acolyte's sets can be acquired as early as level 15, from Sastasha/Tam-Tara/Copperbell.
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