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Rutibex posted:I am having a hearty gafaw at our Warhammer brothers over this Age of Sigmar fiasco. Feels so much like when 4th edition D&D came out, except 4th edition D&D actually had redeeming qualities. At least the minis are still cool, eh? The difference is that when D&D grognards flipped their poo poo and declared that 4E was all a ploy to destroy D&D and drive them from the hobby they were being hyperbolic, whereas with Age of Sigmar it's much closer to actual fact (courtesy of a GW rep who straight-up said that all the Quelf-like elements were designed to make people embarrassed to play those armies in public).
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Kai Tave posted:So yeah, board games! Kemet expansion looks pretty sweet so far, I dig that the new tiles do different things with the gold token, that's kind of clever. The appropriateness of the power balancing of the new tiles remains to be seen. Increasing total soldiers capacity by three seems pretty weak for example. I don't see players maintain maxed out army counts often to begin with - will they when the max is three full packs? Ehh I dunno, lot of investment there. I'm still pretty hyped though.
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Rutibex posted:This looks a lot like aMazing Labyrinth, which is a game you can buy at Toys-R-Us today: And I own both. They are the same game with significantly different goals, although it is possible to play a very simple version of Master that is basically aMAZEing. Not the greatest, but better kid/mainstream fare than most.
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SuperKlaus posted:The appropriateness of the power balancing of the new tiles remains to be seen. Increasing total soldiers capacity by three seems pretty weak for example. I don't see players maintain maxed out army counts often to begin with - will they when the max is three full packs? Ehh I dunno, lot of investment there. I'm still pretty hyped though. I don't see it being an "always go-to" thing but there have for sure been games I've played where the ability to have three troops of five on the board would have made a difference, and for a 1-cost power tile having the option doesn't seem like a terrible deal.
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Rutibex posted:If you already own and enjoy Mage Knight be prepared for some disappointment. I'm a slight board game noob (if only because it's a total bitch to get groups together for anything, even board game night at a fairly big work environment unless I did a bunch of advertising during work or asking people on reddit, which is also fairly hard. My other options are to drive an hour to a hobby shop that has board game matches, which is not happening.), but I got the card game and while I've only had the chance to play it with myself, it's fun and I would play it more if I actually had others to play with. On that same note, I had this D&D5ed just sitting here, with all the goodies unused because I can never get anyone to play. I'd ask my roommate, but he DM's like 2-4 different events over skype or someshit :\
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I'm a slight board game noob (if only because it's a total bitch to get groups together for anything, even board game night at a fairly big work environment unless I did a bunch of advertising during work or asking people on reddit, which is also fairly hard. My other options are to drive an hour to a hobby shop that has board game matches, which is not happening.), but I got the card game and while I've only had the chance to play it with myself, it's fun and I would play it more if I actually had others to play with. Oh I totally agree, if you are a board gaming noob than Pathfinder cards are quite entertaining. In fact it was the first "designer" board game I cut my teeth on. My comment there was more about the quality of Mage Knight, once you play Mage Knight going back to Pathfinder Cards seems absurd.
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It's so hard to get board gaming groups together, even though board games are only getting better. People think of Monopoly and don't want anything to do with board games, heh.
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Rutibex posted:Oh I totally agree, if you are a board gaming noob than Pathfinder cards are quite entertaining. In fact it was the first "designer" board game I cut my teeth on. My comment there was more about the quality of Mage Knight, once you play Mage Knight going back to Pathfinder Cards seems absurd. 1-4 hours though. Too many people are impatient and aren't interested in that length.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:1-4 hours though. Too many people are impatient and aren't interested in that length. I play one Mage Knight day every real day, it's about all I have patience for. Then the ol' blanket goes over it so the cat doesn't gently caress up the pieces.
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Kai Tave posted:The difference is that when D&D grognards flipped their poo poo and declared that 4E was all a ploy to destroy D&D and drive them from the hobby they were being hyperbolic, whereas with Age of Sigmar it's much closer to actual fact (courtesy of a GW rep who straight-up said that all the Quelf-like elements were designed to make people embarrassed to play those armies in public). Really? That quote sounds amazing. Is it on the internet anywhere?
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SuperKlaus posted:The appropriateness of the power balancing of the new tiles remains to be seen. Increasing total soldiers capacity by three seems pretty weak for example. I don't see players maintain maxed out army counts often to begin with - will they when the max is three full packs? Ehh I dunno, lot of investment there. I'm still pretty hyped though. The reason most people don't recruit to capacity is because having less than a full sized troop is strategically poor but you don't have exactly enough units to fill out troops. You get 12 units so you can maintain a 5 and a 7 if you buy Legion, and if you do buy Legion you tend to recruit to capacity. Now buying this tile can give you three 5s, and people will recruit to capacity for that. Priest of Amun and this tile will be a big thing.
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Jul 6, 2015 14:07
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Does anyone have any general tips for Agricola? I've been playing it a lot with my GF, but I'm going to be playing it with a friend who has only played it once. Any good stuff I can tell him to even out the odds a bit? How is farmers of the moor? GF is kinda in the "game if fine, don't make it more complicated" but I heard a lot of people think the fuel and stuff evens out the strategy a bit more, since just expanding isn't as strong.
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Sistergodiva posted:Does anyone have any general tips for Agricola? I've been playing it a lot with my GF, but I'm going to be playing it with a friend who has only played it once. Any good stuff I can tell him to even out the odds a bit? If he's played once and has some grasp of the game's mechanics, then I'd probably recommend mentioning: Don't underestimate the importance of having even just one extra family member, needing more food might be daunting but having that extra action more than makes up for it. Secondly, try not to get tunnel-visioned with your Occupations and Minor Improvements. It's easy to look at those cards and think "Hey, I can chain these off of each other!" but the reality is that you have to be really careful about the cards you play so that they actually get used.
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Jul 6, 2015 14:25
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I finally got to play Power Grid today, lots to like about it but is it just me or is the end game wonky as gently caress? In the end my friend was basically in a kingmaking position that took a bunch of math to figure out, not very satisfying. I don't see myself wanting to play it over Keyflower ever.
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I'm not a huge fan of Powergrid myself. The end always comes out to making sure you haven't advanced enough to be too far back in the turn order and then using piles of cash you saved in order to spread as much as possible. I don't mind maths exercises but Powergrid feels really dry and boring to me.
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Jul 6, 2015 14:43
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Who bought Forbidden Stars, and what do you guys think? I love CITOW and Game of Thrones, and I keep hearing this is a mix of the best mechanics of both of those. Then again if I already own both of those games, do I really need another 3-4 player area control game?
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Megasabin posted:Who bought Forbidden Stars, and what do you guys think? I love CITOW and Game of Thrones, and I keep hearing this is a mix of the best mechanics of both of those. Then again if I already own both of those games, do I really need another 3-4 player area control game?
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Played Dream Quest, as iOS deckbuilding adventure thing. Some thoughts: First, you probably heard the art is bad. Whatever you're imagining "bad" means, it's worse than that; it's not like "Sentinels" bad, it's like "stick men and scribbles" bad. Terrible. One exception: I like the art on the "Extract" card, which shows a bit of brain on a fork. I could forgive the scribbles if they all had a bit character like this. The game is vaguely Rogue-like: you start with a character-specific deck, and you fight monsters on successive, random dungeon floors (and the floors have themes, so you'll be underwater and fight fish or whatever). There's randomly treasure chests and shops where you can get stat increases, new cards, and chances to upgrade or trash cards. Monsters are themed, with special powers and abilities, many of which are strong enough that you need to change your approach in order to deal with them (eg. the cat thing counters the first card you play every turn). You can choose to keep cards between turns, so there's a bit more hand management than a normal deckbuilder. That sounds good, right? It is. It's a really super strong start for a game. They do kind of botch it up, though: 1. The layouts are very, very random - and they swing freely from super easy with big gifts everywhere, to straight up impossible. Sometimes the levels are arranged in a way that you can manage the order of your encounters, time your level ups so that you get health back, etc... but too often you end up in a single linear sort of hallway, and you're completely at the whim of luck as to whether that works. 2. You have too little control of available cards to make deckbuilding satisfying. The shop might have just what you need, or you might get just what you need when you level up. Or you might start out going for spells and then be given a long train of stuff that needs action points (or whatever). To succeed, you need to build a good focused deck and often you just can't. Deckbuilding should be the fun part, instead it's often just frustrating. 3. There's too few choices in actual play, especially at the beginning. You start out with a handsize of 2 (?!?!?), and during the first stage of the game (which you'll see a lot, because you'll die a lot) you just dump your hand and say go and hope that means you win. 4. You just randomly get shut down sometimes. Often. Huh, there's a clone here (he starts with the same deck as you) that I have to go through, but he's higher level than me (even though I've got all the XP I could). I lose. It's the "invulnerable guy who dies after 7 turns that you just have to wait out" and I have an aggressive deck that can't heal - so all my cards are blank and I wait to die. Oh, now it's the "guy who you have to kill in 7 turns or else you auto-lose", and I have a sustain'ish deck, so I lose again. It's the "guy who has a chance of randomly exiling a card from your deck when you cast", and I have a small deck. I lose, with 0 cards left because his trigger randomly fired a lot. Anyway, despite kronking up so much stuff, this is still better than almost anything else out there - the core ideas are strong enough that the game still works pretty well.
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We did a big board gaming thing at a buddy's place over the weekend and I tried out Nations. loving hated it, which surprised me since I like Through the Ages and they felt fairly similar. Someone got Sun Tzu early and just dominated me and another player. Never got anything to dig me out of the hole I ended up in, was scrabbling for resources constantly and I knew I was screwed almost 2 hours before it ended. I mean, I know most of it was my own gently caress-up, but I seriously didn't see a way back from not having access to any of the cards I could use to help myself because the first player consistently got two actions to get anything good off of the board. Also I really don't like how big the board with the cards is. I thought it was too much stuff to keep track of, personally. I overlooked stuff that would have worked because there were two or three other cards that would do different jobs. Found the entire thing deeply frustrating. Aside from that, people in my group really enjoyed Cthulhu Wars, which I have yet to play. We also got in some One Night Ultimate Werewolf and I got to try out Sellswords, a game that I got wrecked in, but still enjoyed. There was some other stuff, but scotch was involved.
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Bottom Liner posted:You guys are seriously recommending this... Real gamers don't see artwork and graphics, only game mechanics. Like the Matrix or something.
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Jul 6, 2015 17:28
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Bottom Liner posted:You guys are seriously recommending this... Graphics are not important. 
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Jul 6, 2015 17:35
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Scyther posted:Real gamers don't see artwork and graphics, only game mechanics. Like the Matrix or something. The matrix had amazing graphics though. Also featured permadeath, crazy character customization and a huge multi-player potential.
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Harvey Mantaco posted:The matrix had amazing graphics though. Also featured permadeath, crazy character customization and a huge multi-player potential.
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Echophonic posted:We did a big board gaming thing at a buddy's place over the weekend and I tried out Nations. loving hated it, which surprised me since I like Through the Ages and they felt fairly similar. Someone got Sun Tzu early and just dominated me and another player. Never got anything to dig me out of the hole I ended up in, was scrabbling for resources constantly and I knew I was screwed almost 2 hours before it ended. I mean, I know most of it was my own gently caress-up, but I seriously didn't see a way back from not having access to any of the cards I could use to help myself because the first player consistently got two actions to get anything good off of the board. It really sounds like the designer went into the trap that is giving the leader further advantages. Which is intuitive as gently caress, because rewarding people for doing well seems right, but as we all know, leads to snowballing and unfun experiences for everyone else. This is one of the biggest reasons Dominion is a great game*, it knows to punish the leader instead of rewarding her, thus keeping everyone in the game. Power Grid does this too some extent with the turn order too, supplemented by politics. *I don't like it too much myself, but that's beside the point. Edit: Hi, I'm captain obvious!
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Echophonic posted:We did a big board gaming thing at a buddy's place over the weekend and I tried out Nations. loving hated it, which surprised me since I like Through the Ages and they felt fairly similar. Someone got Sun Tzu early and just dominated me and another player. Never got anything to dig me out of the hole I ended up in, was scrabbling for resources constantly and I knew I was screwed almost 2 hours before it ended. I mean, I know most of it was my own gently caress-up, but I seriously didn't see a way back from not having access to any of the cards I could use to help myself because the first player consistently got two actions to get anything good off of the board. Yeah, Nations is a game which is almost good, but is bad enough in the ways that it's bad that it's become close to unplayable for me. If you don't get either a good food building or a good stability building (preferably both) early, you're more or less hosed (from experience), and that's ignoring all the other badness of it. It's a MASSIVELY death-spirally game. Which is a shame, because it's certainly quicker and less fiddly than TtA, and could easily have replaced it if it were better designed.
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Bottom Liner posted:You guys are seriously recommending this... I don't play it anymore because if I do I stay up til 3AM and I'm way too old for that poo poo. It just got a big update too.
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Karmoderm posted:Really? That quote sounds amazing. Is it on the internet anywhere? serious gaylord posted:GW had a guy camped out at the Forge World open day whos entire job was to answer questions and talk to people about Age of Sigmar. His entire job is to go to shows and talk to people about the new game. For the first time I think ever they're taking Age of Sigmar to Gencon, Comic Con, all the major wargames conventions in Europe etc. They're throwing a considerable amount of money at putting this in front of new audiences who have never played fantasy before. He was also brutally honest and didn't dodge any questions and answered everything he could. I'll start with the negative stuff first.
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Fat Samurai posted:Graphics are not important. that's a good drat meeting
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Congrats to Colt Express and Broom Service for winning the SDJ and KdJ respectively!  I really want to give a Broom Service a try now. I'm so glad Machi Koro didn't win.
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Bottom Liner posted:You guys are seriously recommending this... I agree, way to much system resources being wasted on pointless graphics. lol if every computer game you play doesn't look like this: 
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ASCII is preferable to kindergarden  For anyone with Agricola on iOS, which IAP deck is better/can someone tell me the difference in them? I've only ever played with the vanilla cards and I'm ready to branch out.
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thespaceinvader posted:Yeah, Nations is a game which is almost good, but is bad enough in the ways that it's bad that it's become close to unplayable for me. If you don't get either a good food building or a good stability building (preferably both) early, you're more or less hosed (from experience), and that's ignoring all the other badness of it. It's a MASSIVELY death-spirally game. Which is a shame, because it's certainly quicker and less fiddly than TtA, and could easily have replaced it if it were better designed. I actually had both of those things early on and still only ended up with points for my buildings at the end of the game. I couldn't even afford an age 4 building. The war mechanics are really brutal and part of the problem. The person with the most military goes first, takes a war and forces everyone to build military or lose 6+ resources (read: VP and a bunch of books if you're already behind)
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Deathlove posted:that's a good drat meeting Needs more "guy playing with his smartphone"
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Scyther posted:Real gamers don't see artwork and graphics, only game mechanics. Like the Matrix or something. clearclaw (of course) posted:I buy game rules. The fact that they often come with bits is a bonus.
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Echophonic posted:I actually had both of those things early on and still only ended up with points for my buildings at the end of the game. I couldn't even afford an age 4 building. The war mechanics are really brutal and part of the problem. The person with the most military goes first, takes a war and forces everyone to build military or lose 6+ resources (read: VP and a bunch of books if you're already behind) You may have missed a critical rule with wars, i.e. you lose the number of resources minus your current stability. Also, you can and should be buying the wars as the militarily-trailing player, and thereby setting the war value low so no-one else can set it high. But see previous comments about death spiralling. It's a game where you need a lot of everything - money for buying stuff, rocks for building stuff, food/stab for recruiting, military or stab for not dying, and you still need somehow to earn points. It's really hard to make it work well, and IME in a four player game someone winds up getting mega-hosed, every time.
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Honestly, as 3D printing gets cheaper and cheaper, that's really going to start being an actual thing, I think. A significant subset of the serious board gaming population who can reliably produce their own pieces.
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Poison Mushroom posted:Honestly, as 3D printing gets cheaper and cheaper, that's really going to start being an actual thing, I think. A significant subset of the serious board gaming population who can reliably produce their own pieces. Can't wait! "Hey I got this new game! Let's pop it open." "Cool. You read the rules. I'll print the board graphics, run to Michaels and get some mat boards and spray adhesive, and then build the board!" "Jeff, can you feed these meeple files into the CNC and and then sand and paint them?" "Sure thing!"
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Oldstench posted:Can't wait! Because the most likely scenario is that people would wait until they want to play a game to utilize the technology, absolutely.
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I know there's already a lot of tutorials for molding and copying 40k minis, though that's probably just because of the combination of "insanely popular" and "absurdly overpriced".
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