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Darke GBF
Dec 30, 2006

The cold never bothered me anyway~
The LACC is nowhere near big enough to host Comic-Con. LA sucks rear end anyway, and the eateries there outside of Little Tokyo are either poo poo or expensive.

Las Vegas. That's the place for Comic-Con, baby. Booya.

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Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006
Vegas is the place to host a con that you really don't want the focus to be on the con.

Hijinks Ensue
Jul 24, 2007
Have decided I'm not going to cosplay this year. The only day that won't be busy with lines, panels, and running around is Sunday, when I need to be packed up, and the costume (while awesome) is too impractical to wear for anything other than doing the "look at my costume" stroll.

Plans are in the works for a different, more practical outfit next year.

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong

Darke GBF posted:

The LACC is nowhere near big enough to host Comic-Con. LA sucks rear end anyway, and the eateries there outside of Little Tokyo are either poo poo or expensive.

Las Vegas. That's the place for Comic-Con, baby. Booya.

This is the second post about the size of the lacc, and it has me a bit confused considering its magnitudes bigger than the San Diego convention center. Why do people think it's smaller?

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!
Because of construction at the Marriott Marina, a whole bunch of stuff got moved around

http://www.comic-con.org/toucan/10-what%E2%80%99s-new-and-what%E2%80%99s-changed-comic-con

xxEightxx posted:

This is the second post about the size of the lacc, and it has me a bit confused considering its magnitudes bigger than the San Diego convention center. Why do people think it's smaller?

Anaheim: 815000 sq ft (an additional 200000 is under construction)
13000 hotel rooms (more under construction, but competing with Disneyland)

San Diego: 615000 (+200000 planned but that has been halted)
11000 hotel rooms

LA: 720000
5000 hotel rooms

Las Vegas: 3200000 (+500000 under construction)
62000 hotel rooms

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong

Dr Tran posted:

Because of construction at the Marriott Marina, a whole bunch of stuff got moved around

http://www.comic-con.org/toucan/10-what%E2%80%99s-new-and-what%E2%80%99s-changed-comic-con


Anaheim: 815000 sq ft (an additional 200000 is under construction)
13000 hotel rooms (more under construction, but competing with Disneyland)

San Diego: 615000 (+200000 planned but that has been halted)
11000 hotel rooms

LA: 720000
5000 hotel rooms

Las Vegas: 3200000 (+500000 under construction)
62000 hotel rooms

My bad I thought San Diego 600k was including the 200 that has been under "construction" for how ever long

Darke GBF
Dec 30, 2006

The cold never bothered me anyway~

Jack Skeleton posted:

Vegas is the place to host a con that you really don't want the focus to be on the con.

I wouldn't say that, but having surrounding activities of that quantity would definitely take some pressure off the con. When the hosting city is a vacation destination on its own, you don't feel compelled to spend every minute of the weekend at the convention itself.

In terms of surroundings, I think I'd rank it Vegas > San Diego > Anaheim > LA. Obviously some would disagree, but keep in mind the space in the LVCC is so great that it could probably accommodate a lot more ticket sales. More people could go, so tickets wouldn't be as hard to get every year. I poked around Google a bit but couldn't find how big the largest room is in there though, so I cant really say whether or not the Hall H-esque panels would be able to accommodate more people. It wouldn't surprise me, though.

My only legitimate gripe with Las Vegas would be the weather. San Diego is always pretty nice out, with the marina being nice and cool. I'd definitely miss that, since I definitely spend a not-insignificant amount of time outside walking. Though last year there was this weird hot rain that happened for like 3 minutes on one of the days. That was bizarre.

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

The LVCC is still like a mile or two off the strip. In summer, this is excruciating. I'm actually in Vegas right now (vacation before vacation) and holy gently caress is it balls hot outside. No matter how big the convention center is, if CCI is going to have their premiere event in LV during summer, everything people want to do needs to be in the convention center.

This is and always be the advantage SDCC has over every other entrant. In the 8 years I've been going to SDCC, only once has the weather been hideously hot.

As for the construction, who knows if it'll even happen now that the courts shot down the tax increase. I could see SDCC trying to work something out with more hotels to take their ballrooms. The Hilton has 2 other levels of ballrooms it could give if SDCC wanted them badly enough.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

Darke GBF posted:

San Diego is always pretty nice out, with the marina being nice and cool.

This year's forecast:

Wednesday (Preview Night): Partly cloudy, low 70s

Thursday (SDCC Day 1): Partly cloudy, low 70s

Friday (SDCC Day 2): Partly cloudy, low 70s

Saturday (SDCC Day 3): Partly cloudy, low 70s

Sunday (SDCC Day 4): Partly cloudy, mid 70s

Be sure to pack a sweater

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
I once joked about Vegas but truth is Vegas swallows up everything else instead of the other way around. While theoretically there's space getting to all the stuff outside the convention would be more difficult and more removed. The casinos wouldnt be part of the con

also the non convention crowd probably more hostile

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

The cosplay game in Vegas would be much weaker too as people aren't going to be as wont to be intricate if they're just going to be constantly sweating outside.

Axel Serenity
Sep 27, 2002

xxEightxx posted:

This is the second post about the size of the lacc, and it has me a bit confused considering its magnitudes bigger than the San Diego convention center. Why do people think it's smaller?

Because it is. I've written about this before, but here:

quote:

The quoted figures tend to revolve around the size of the convention center. The L.A. Times went so far as to offer alternatives.

“Anaheim may be the most attractive suitor because it can offer the largest exhibit hall space in the region — 815,000 square feet — plus proximity to Disneyland and Disney’s California Adventure Park,” writers Hugo Martin and Tony Perry wrote this past January.

However, many of these figures regarding moving to Anaheim or Los Angeles leave out a great deal of information, namely that the convention is more than the Exhibit Hall, the centralized floor full of booths and vendors exhibiting their wares. As anyone who has been to Comic-Con knows, there is much more to the convention than the Exhibit Floor, including the outer hallways and panel showrooms that have become a hallmark of the convention. Once including overall floor space, it’s clear that San Diego is, by and large, the best option in California for the convention.

The total capacity of San Diego’s convention center is estimated at 130,000 people spread over a total floor space of nearly 2.6 Million square feet. While Anaheim is often quoted as having a larger Exhibit Hall, which it does (815,000 sq.ft. to SD’s 615,700), the overall area is much smaller. Anaheim’s floor space is only 1.1 Million sq. ft. and, while exact numbers are hard to find, the overall capacity is estimated to be only 120,000, significantly smaller than San Diego’s when dealing with such huge audiences.

Essentially, the numbers quoted only take into account the Exhibit Floor i.e. where the booths are set up. People quoting the San Diego Center's 615k sq.ft. are not taking into account the ballrooms, side areas, hallways, and extra space that goes into counting total capacity for a building.

So, yeah, you could maybe move the convention to LA or Anaheim if all you care about are the booths, but you'll be fitting a lot fewer people in total. The only convention centers larger than San Diego's that would work for this kind of convention are Chicago (which already has C2E2) and Vegas (which no one legitimately wants unless they care more about parties than the convention).

I couldn't be happier to see SDCC stay through 2018. Although it'd be real nice to take the Metro from Burbank downtown to LA, it just wouldn't be the same convention at all. SD does need to get their legal issues regarding a convention expansion worked out, but I personally love crowded-as-gently caress cons because that's what the atmosphere is all about now. I never experienced the old days of walking up the day-of and getting tickets, and I honestly think it would be significantly more boring if that were still the case.

Give me the crowded halls, cosplay blocking the floor, and overnight camping anyday. It creates the sense of community that makes SDCC what it is now.

Axel Serenity fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Jul 6, 2015

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
yeah as someone who can drive 45 mins to downtown LA vs 2+ hours to SD, LA won't work. The gaslamp should really be figured in the area planning stats

Planetarium
Apr 19, 2003

Grimey Drawer
thanks to those who responded bout the badge problem, still thinking on what I'm gonna do

in the meantime if anybody is in the unlikley situation of having a spare badge with a male name and needing one with a female name, PM me for a trade

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Got this days ago

quote:

Please read the entire message below for important instructions!

Attendee Preregistration for Comic-Con 2016 will occur online sometime after Comic-Con 2015. There will be no onsite preregistration. Only those who purchased a Comic-Con 2015 attendee badge and retain their actual badge will be eligible to participate in Attendee Preregistration.

You must retain your Comic-Con 2015 badge to be eligible for Comic-Con 2016 Attendee Preregistration. Please do not throw away, give away, or lose your Comic-Con 2015 badge as it contains valuable information required to participate in preregistration.

Children who attend Comic-Con 2015, but will be age 13 prior to August 1, 2015 must keep their Comic-Con 2015 child badge if they would like to be eligible for preregistration. Without the physical child badge, they will not be able to register for an eligible Comic-Con Member ID or authorize their existing Member ID.

Professionals, guests of professionals, exhibitors, exhibitor-purchased attendee badges, volunteers, staff, retailers, and press will not be allowed to participate in Attendee Preregistration. Online registration for these categories will occur at a later date.

Eligible attendees will be notified, via email, with additional information regarding Attendee Preregistration sometime after Comic-Con 2015. The notification will be sent to the email associated with your Member ID account.

Please be sure to "opt-in" to email correspondence to receive the Comic-Con 2016 preregistration instructions. To review your opt-out selections, visit https://secure2.comic-con.org/memberid/ and log in to your Member ID account. Select “OPT-OUTS” to change your communication preferences.

Thank you very much for your support of Comic-Con International! Please be on the lookout for additional Comic-Con 2016 information in early August.


Is this a new thing?

Jarnet
Jan 7, 2007

A few years ago they said "Hey, we're going to need you to start keeping your badges for the prereg code. We're going to give you a pass this year so that it's not being sprung on you, but please take note that you will have to keep your badges for the prereg code from now on."

Two years ago before and after the con they sent out like three or four emails saying "KEEP YOUR loving BADGES"

Last year they said "Hey, remember that thing we said last year? Did you do it?" and a whole bunch of people didn't and got wildly upset. So no, not new.

Hijinks Ensue
Jul 24, 2007
I keep all my badges anyway. I have a coat hook where I hang all my lanyards from various cons.

Pan Dulce
Jan 4, 2011

Beautiful cinnamon roll too good for this world, too pure



Hijinks Ensue posted:

I keep all my badges anyway. I have a coat hook where I hang all my lanyards from various cons.

This is SMART. I'm doing this from now on. Thanks for the idea.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

Hijinks Ensue posted:

I keep all my badges anyway. I have a coat hook where I hang all my lanyards from various cons.

My collection is missing a year or two :(

Hijinks Ensue
Jul 24, 2007
I'm missing a couple years here and there, but I make up for it by having my badges for ComiKaze (including last year when I was press) and other events.

Has anyone been to Wondercon? I'm thinking about being an exhibitor there next year for my books.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
Fun Shoe
If anyone is bummed that there's almost zero chance of getting into the Star Wars: The Force Awakens panel, don't worry, EW says no new clips or trailers will be screened. Unless something major changes next year, we can pretty much assume any big Marvel or Star Wars stuff will always be held over for D23 from here on out.

It would be nice if people realizing the big panels are becoming completely worthless for exclusive experiences translated to lower interest, but at this point people would still fight for tickets and a spot in Hall H even if you told them it was nothing but a secondary producer giving PR-friendly answers.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Space_Butler posted:

If anyone is bummed that there's almost zero chance of getting into the Star Wars: The Force Awakens panel, don't worry, EW says no new clips or trailers will be screened. Unless something major changes next year, we can pretty much assume any big Marvel or Star Wars stuff will always be held over for D23 from here on out.

It would be nice if people realizing the big panels are becoming completely worthless for exclusive experiences translated to lower interest, but at this point people would still fight for tickets and a spot in Hall H even if you told them it was nothing but a secondary producer giving PR-friendly answers.

but I want to be the guy who holds up his phone and asks Carrie Fisher to say "I love you Alan Smithee" :smith:

Sefer
Sep 2, 2006
Not supposed to be here today

Hijinks Ensue posted:

I'm missing a couple years here and there, but I make up for it by having my badges for ComiKaze (including last year when I was press) and other events.

Has anyone been to Wondercon? I'm thinking about being an exhibitor there next year for my books.

I've been going for a few years, I think ever since it moved to Anaheim (though the first year I only went Sunday, I wasn't planning on going at all until I found out there was a Community panel). It reminds me of Comic Con around 2006, much more laid back, easier to get into things, easier to wander the floor. Not nearly as many big media panels, which is probably a big part of why it's still laid back.

I like it, I got tired of how bad the lines got at Comic Con back in 2012 and haven't been since, but Wondercon is more my speed these days. I do miss the big media panels, but I didn't have to spend any time in lines this year (other than for food trucks) so I call it a win.

It's a bummer for me that it's going to be in LA next year, though; I'm pretty close to the Anaheim Convention Center and have a pass that lets me use the Disney parking across the street. Probably not going to go this coming year.

Pan Dulce
Jan 4, 2011

Beautiful cinnamon roll too good for this world, too pure



There's already someone in line for Hall H. *Nevermind, Reddit's dumb sometimes. The tents are going up though.

Pan Dulce fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Jul 7, 2015

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Is this that time of year we make Tyler's van jokes like our own personal SDCC 9/11

False Toaster
Dec 29, 2006

Stupidity, its both physically and mentally painful.
Going to shoot this out there and see if someone has spare 4 day tickets. Not looking to pay $500 for single day passes.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!
Hotel Z just opened up with rooms
http://www.hotelzsandiego.com/san-diego-comic-convention/2015-comic-convention-room-package.htm

Jarnet
Jan 7, 2007

Jesus Christing gently caress! Did any of you guys stay at the Embassy Suites downtown last year? Do they seriously charge $42 for guest parking every night on top of the Comic Con rate!!?

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Jarnet posted:

Jesus Christing gently caress! Did any of you guys stay at the Embassy Suites downtown last year? Do they seriously charge $42 for guest parking every night on top of the Comic Con rate!!?

All hotels have an egregious parking rate. Marriott last year was like $40. I know when I check in tomorrow at the Omni I'm probably looking at and extra $35-40 a night. It's considered a hidden fee and a way they can keep advertised rates low while still raping you in the rear end in a top hat of every extra dime they can.

But at least you get free in and outs! (dismissive wank motion)

Jarnet
Jan 7, 2007

I stay in San Diego a lot due to family and friends and stuff and I've never seen one over $20 much less valet only, I'm sure that's much to do with it. That's completely insane :psyduck: The Marriott gaslamp is $40 now too, it definitely wasn't when I stayed there a couple years back.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
If you dont need in an out just tell them you lost your parking stub on the last day

False Toaster
Dec 29, 2006

Stupidity, its both physically and mentally painful.

Alan Smithee posted:

If you dont need in an out just tell them you lost your parking stub on the last day

I've done this more times than I'd like to admit.

Kali11324
Dec 8, 2004

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Hijinks Ensue posted:

I'm missing a couple years here and there, but I make up for it by having my badges for ComiKaze (including last year when I was press) and other events.

Has anyone been to Wondercon? I'm thinking about being an exhibitor there next year for my books.

I love Wondercon. It is a little weird that it is Easter weekend if you celebrate that with your family or whatever, but take away all the poo poo you hate about SDCC and leave all the stuff you like. That is basically Wondercon. You are not going to have any of the major exclusives but you will not have the crowds either.

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong
Someone have that link of events going on outside of the con itself, i cant seem to find it.

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Check the second post of this thread. Dr. Tran has been great at keeping it updated.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
Fun Shoe
Town and Country is open for pickup and there's practically no line, for anyone not stuck at work.

xxEightxx
Mar 5, 2010

Oh, it's true. You are Brock Landers!
Salad Prong
On another note my access for Sunday just got pulled, anyone have one/two Sunday badges, preferably with a child pass available? I know it's a long shot but beats surfing craigslist for the non scam non 1000% markup tickets.

Ed: for clarification, the free child pass, not the 13 year old pass you need an actual paid for badge. So if you have one/two badges and you weren't planning on going Sunday I'm your guy (or girl, for my wife).

xxEightxx fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jul 9, 2015

Beast of Bourbon
Sep 25, 2013

Pillbug
They opened all the lines early. I walked up at 115pm and there was 4 people in front of me for trade pro registration pick up.

XOIC of Radishes
Oct 1, 2009

I planted radishes in this special dirt and they came up all weird!
:science: :ughh:
Parked at mall, walking over in a bit because we're actually exploring the mall. Nice to save money and avoid traffic. Would recommend, A+++.

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John Lightning
Mar 10, 2012
Anyone know of any parties and/or have any ins to these parties? Just looking for things to do at night after the con.

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