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PrivateEyeball posted:Any thoughts on synergy between Ninja/Bard/Ranger/Dancer? I'm tempted to re-roll the Dancer or pick up some sort of caster via job fair. Dual-wielding Dancer can hit with two Sword Dances in a turn. That's worth keeping. Also, you can give Ninja Rapid-Fire. And Bard is Bard. Aside from the fragility, that seems like a pretty solid team.
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PrivateEyeball posted:Any thoughts on synergy between Ninja/Bard/Ranger/Dancer? I'm tempted to re-roll the Dancer or pick up some sort of caster via job fair. It's a very fragile, hard-hitting and fast class combination. Speed Song is your friend.
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gently caress you, NED NED got knocked the gently caress up NED is a freakin' panzy Don't gently caress with the pros, mate  Aside from the Berserker, the entire party had access to Time magic and was hasted by Hermes' Sandals. Lots of Quick -> Meteor -> Meteor -> Elixir -> ... going on. Lots of Quick in general, really. The Berserker was given a Reflect Ring. She only got one turn for every, like, 100 turns any other party member got. Her role was basically to sit there, act as a meat shield, and reflect some of the nasty spells back at the bastard. Most of the party had Equip Shields. Those blocked nasty things like Vacuum Wave. Neato! Grand Cross was also pretty kind to me. It did things like Blind my magic-users. And I could survive Almagest when I downed a few Elixirs first. Next up, those other two superbosses that I forget what their names are or whatever. Or maybe a second run? Only time will tell. blinking beacon nose fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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Jul 7, 2015 06:21
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Kyrosiris posted:Yes but why on earth would you wish Fork Tower on a team whose most potent non-reset-triggering ability is Red Mage rod-boosted -aras? Only took four minutes (3:57 according to the recording) with the emulator on fast forward. Solo Red Mage w/ Magus Rod, Gold Hairpin, Bone Mail, Reflect Ring. Only had to use one Ether. Could have been faster but he only cast Drain once. Kinda wanted that Rune Blade; it helped a lot when I had my two Red Mage run earlier in the fiesta.
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blinking beacon nose posted:NED got knocked the gently caress up I think you mean "knocked the gently caress out". ...At least, GOD, I hope you meant that. 
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Jul 7, 2015 07:18
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Mighty Dicktron posted:Come to Shinryu's Inflatable Zombounce House in the next 10 hours if u want an asskicking Turns out it takes just under 2 hours to cause Shinryu to commit suicide by breathing atomic rays on 3 zombies and a coward.
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Jul 7, 2015 07:21
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Bufuman posted:I think you mean "knocked the gently caress out".
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Jul 7, 2015 07:21
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Cheez posted:FF5-2, wherein Exdeath's baby takes revenge Also Gilgamesh is a party member. I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENED! GILGAMESH IS ADVENTURING WITH US!
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Jul 7, 2015 07:42
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Leofish posted:Also Gilgamesh is a party member. How does that work if he sacrificed himself against Necrophobe? ...gently caress it, if anyone could survive making his entire being explode into pure damage, it would be Gilgamesh.
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Jul 7, 2015 08:08
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 like do i seriously need to keep playing at this point
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Jul 7, 2015 08:33
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Turns out I needed to do Istory after all because the Rune Blade is the only way I can damage Omega... Excalibur heals him and the Defender does 0 damage. Took a while and a few Elixirs, but the Rune Blade was able to chip his HP away ~600 at a time while the other three kept him Calm-locked.
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Jul 7, 2015 08:50
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Kyrosiris posted:Yes but why on earth would you wish Fork Tower on a team whose most potent non-reset-triggering ability is Red Mage rod-boosted -aras? You know, as a public service to everyone since I'm bored right now. Fork Tower: The Summary Why do Fork Tower? First, and most obvious. You need Holy or Flare. That means White Mage, Black Mage, and Mystic Knight. Since nothing in the game warrants Flare over level 3 elementals, that means White Mage or Mystic Knight. You need the Submarine. This allows you to get to Great Sea Trench, notable as one of the best places for a Bard to gain levels, as well as having Meteor for the Time Mages among us. This also allows you to get to Istory Falls, notable for containing the Titan's Axe, the Rune Blade, the Artemis Bow, and an Aegis Shield. Heavy Berserker parties might want the Titan's Axe under a few circumstances*, the Rune Blade is useful for Knights, Red Mages, and Blue Mages (but not Mystic Knights since it's not Spellblade capable), the Artemis Bow is great against part of Neo Exdeath and is a rare steal otherwise. The Aegis Shield is nonnegotiable: if you had a moment of idiocy and skipped the one in Moore or you have more than one shield using party member, you want it. You'll thank me come Exdeath. This applies even to Ribbon bearing parties, because if you think you're good enough to not care about a one in third chance of blocking Almagest then you really don't need to read this. Summoners might also want Leviathan. Although an inferior cast, if you've developed an Ether and Elixir allergy then !Call gets a little better adding Leviathan to the draw. Additionally, Leviathan becomes the strongest thing you can cast with a Chemist backing you up with Elemental Power mixes, so that's a thing. Finally, there's the loot in Fork Tower itself. The Defender is an amazing Knightsword and is a worthy competitor to Excalibur, Ragnarok, and the Brave Blade. Despite being weaker, the 1/4 weapon block and casting of Protect are very useful to have if you've got an otherwise low vitality party (or the rest of your team is Berserkers). Meanwhile, the Wonder Rod gives a single shot of every White and Black spell in the game to a rod user. Practically this means Shell for non-White non-Blue rod users, Break for non-Black non-Summon users, and a slow but comical way to kill Omega without using MP for any rod using party. So, Knights, Blue Mages, White Mages, Red Mages, Summoners, Time Mages, Berserkers, Mystic Knights, Rangers, Bards, Samurai, and Dragoons all have really strong reasons to go through Fork Tower beyond mere completionism. So, if you want the prizes beyond or just can't stand not doing the last 20% of the game, read on. Beating Fork Tower First, the randoms. The might side has permaMute set, so that can be difficult for mages. Run, use the Magic Lamp, or hope you don't fight anything. That last one's a really viable plan in Fork Tower. Because the random encounter "danger level" RNG is reset every time you change areas, it's entirely possible to go the entire dungeon without fighting a single random. The magic side counters non-Magic stuff with violent explodinations so don't do that. Run or just hope you don't fight them. Minotaur can be beaten by two+ characters with Phoenix Downs. Worst case, snap some rods on him. Just remember he absorbs Holy. Omniscient is the rear end in a top hat. Everything that touches him that isn't Steal or one of the actual Magic schools causes a Reset. Don't do that. Everything he does is Reflectable other than Drain, so one Bone Mailed Reflect Ring'd character stands good odds of him just killing himself. Even so, Reset is barred if he's Silenced, and he'll randomly cast that spell, or you can apply it with a reflected Mage Masher trigger or the Spellblade attack. It'll wear off quickly, so be ready for a follow up. If you're using two characters, just have someone ready with a powerful attack. If one, just wait for Silence to reflect onto him. Powerful attacks include everything from Double Gripped Excaliburs to cracked Fire Rods. Go nuts. The big trouble comes basically just for White Mages. If you're really dreading Omniscient, farm up some Staffs of Light in Guido's Cave before you do Castle Exdeath. Otherwise, you've can rely on Berserking him. Berserk plus Image plus Protect plus back row plus Elven Mantles will at least let you bash away with Morning Stars until he dies, but it's bloody. Alternatively, sit with a Reflect Ring and Dispel his Regens as they happen. If he Silences himself, Magic Lamp. He doesn't have that much HP. Running Omniscient out of MP should only be an option if you're lazy. More specifically, if you feel you'd rather leave the game running for ages as opposed to smacking him when he's Silenced. This should basically only be reserved for emulator players. Or just donate four bucks for a Blue Mage, Aerora his rear end, and then pay whatever you need to in order to change back.
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Jul 7, 2015 10:02
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 just loving leave nedward. nobody loves you
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Jul 7, 2015 10:38
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I was wrong. This party actually got it done. Been so long since I used a Knight I forgot how good Two-Handed is. The Knight with Excalibur and Red Mage with Rune Blade could take down most random enemies in a round or two.   Tree was just a matter of patience, with Ragnarok and the Staff of Light I stole from Halicarnassus doing a lot of work, and a few lucky Firaga procs. NED was tough. After releasing four Breath Wings, Bahamut and Leviathan, I had to finish him with physical attacks and Wind Slash. Thought I was done for when I hosed up and forgot to put the Rune Blade back into the Red Mage's hand after breaking a rod, and wasted two turns attacking bare-fisted. He chained Almagest, Grand Cross, Blizzaga and Vacuum Wave all in a row, leaving only the Red Mage standing, thanks to Wonder Wand Blink/Shell. Was able to get everyone standing again and kept whacking away until only the back was left, and the Magic Lamp finished it. Phew... 10 runs done. Only classes I haven't been assigned are Thief and Black Mage. Also only one Berserker... but five Red Mages and five Geomancers.
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Jul 7, 2015 10:41
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Is Equip Katanas worthwhile for Dancers? I know Zeninage is optimal for boss murdering, but what about random fights? Would I be better off focusing on durability with Shirahadori?
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Jul 7, 2015 11:29
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Incredibly lucky jobs this year. This wasn't a challenge at all!  
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Jul 7, 2015 11:37
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Maleketh posted:Is Equip Katanas worthwhile for Dancers? I know Zeninage is optimal for boss murdering, but what about random fights? Would I be better off focusing on durability with Shirahadori? For randoms? I'd go with Iainuki. Also fleeing unless I specifically wanted something (including xp) from an encounter.
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Jul 7, 2015 13:17
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Maleketh posted:Is Equip Katanas worthwhile for Dancers? I know Zeninage is optimal for boss murdering, but what about random fights? Would I be better off focusing on durability with Shirahadori? Personally, I'd go for Shirahadori. The big problem with Dancer is that you want them in the front row because Sword Dance is really powerful and row-dependent, but they're one of if not the most fragile class in the entire game. Shirahadori reduces the odds that enemies like W2 Exdeath will just unceremoniously splatter them. Iainuki's also good, but costs a ton of AP to learn.
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Mustard Iceman posted:NED was tough. After releasing four Breath Wings, Bahamut and Leviathan, I had to finish him with physical attacks and Wind Slash. Thought I was done for when I hosed up and forgot to put the Rune Blade back into the Red Mage's hand after breaking a rod, and wasted two turns attacking bare-fisted. He chained Almagest, Grand Cross, Blizzaga and Vacuum Wave all in a row, leaving only the Red Mage standing, thanks to Wonder Wand Blink/Shell. Was able to get everyone standing again and kept whacking away until only the back was left, and the Magic Lamp finished it. Phew... Congratulations on your victory. For future reference, you can use the Excalipoor to catch a Crystelle in the final dungeon, which will cast Mighty Guard upon release. That makes Neo Exdeath a lot more manageable, since now everyone can survive Almagest. And for Omega you can use the Coral Sword, which does decent damage when you two-hand it.
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Jul 7, 2015 15:19
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Bufuman posted:I think you mean "knocked the gently caress out". Time for the superbosses. Who else wants to be impregnated? Shinryu? Omega?
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Jul 7, 2015 15:36
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Mighty Dicktron posted:Come to Shinryu's Inflatable Zombounce House in the next 10 hours if u want an asskicking Imagine  Forever
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Jul 7, 2015 16:47
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I thought releasing a Mammon would cast berserk on the enemy, but releasing one at Omniscient got me berserked instead. Are reflect shenanigans involved in this?
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Jul 7, 2015 16:50
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So Blessed Kiss is a nice way to Berserk enemies with a Chemist, but the Haste could be problematic for later bosses, like Shinryu. Is there a mix that only applies Berserk, or am I stuck with Blessed Kiss?
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Jul 7, 2015 16:51
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maou shoujo posted:I thought releasing a Mammon would cast berserk on the enemy, but releasing one at Omniscient got me berserked instead. Are reflect shenanigans involved in this? Yeah. You come in wearing Reflect Rings and bounce the Mammon berserk to Omniscient, Shinryu (you only want one person wearing a Ring here), etc. Ilyich posted:So Blessed Kiss is a nice way to Berserk enemies with a Chemist, but the Haste could be problematic for later bosses, like Shinryu. Is there a mix that only applies Berserk, or am I stuck with Blessed Kiss? Yeah, Bacchus's Cider (Turtle Shell + Holy Water). It does respect normal berserk immunity, though, so it's for cases like Shinryu, Omniscient, etc.
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Jul 7, 2015 16:54
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Is there any way to deal with Catastrophe if I don't have access to float? I'd heal through but my highest cure ability is Cura and as it is he one-shots half my party. All strategies I've found so far say to use float and reflect.
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Jul 7, 2015 16:57
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Oxygen Deficiency posted:Is there any way to deal with Catastrophe if I don't have access to float? I'd heal through but my highest cure ability is Cura and as it is he one-shots half my party. All strategies I've found so far say to use float and reflect. If you can cast Cura, you can cast Confuse. Go to the Northern Mountain (where you fought Magissa before or Bahamut now), and confuse Gaelicats. They'll cast float on you.
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Jul 7, 2015 17:00
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Oxygen Deficiency posted:Is there any way to deal with Catastrophe if I don't have access to float? I'd heal through but my highest cure ability is Cura and as it is he one-shots half my party. All strategies I've found so far say to use float and reflect. Everyone has access to float. Go back to the Cave section to the room with that super-long stairway, and the rare encounter there (if on NA GBA, use the Quicksave glitch) has a Poison Eagle. Confuse it with the Dancing Dagger, cram an Ether down its throat, and it'll cast Float on you. Give that person a Reflect Ring and job's done.
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Jul 7, 2015 17:01
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Aww crapnads. Thought I finally had NED this time. Set up protect, blink, and shell in phase 1 then burned through magic lamp to golem which took out two parts since shoat actually hit. 1st grand cross only inflicted blind and doom. Not bad at all! Couple grand crosses later doomed BM got a clutch Phoenix down off with 1 second left to keep me with one controllable character then 2 seconds later 4th cross hit geo with petrify. How lucky was I when shoat hit Almagest portion? If I abuse wonder want reset will it start that fight or go back to phase 1? With zerk zerk Geo BM lvls 32-34 Almagest wrecks everyone.
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This is my first time going for the triple crown, and I just beat Omega and Shinryu. When I tweet #VictoryOmega, do I have to wait for that to be processed before I can tweet #VictoryShinryu or can I tweet both right now? Anyways, on to incinerate/electrocute/flash freeze/nuke/bless NED to death! :'D
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KharlanTree posted:This is my first time going for the triple crown, and I just beat Omega and Shinryu. When I tweet #VictoryOmega, do I have to wait for that to be processed before I can tweet #VictoryShinryu or can I tweet both right now? Nah, as long as they're in separate tweets you can tweet them back to back.
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Chaos #3: Ninja/Bard/Samurai/Samurai  Kelger was ashamed that his singing career could not generate enough gil to kill NED on its own and couldn't face the real world after the fight.
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Kyrosiris posted:Everyone has access to float. Go back to the Cave section to the room with that super-long stairway, and the rare encounter there (if on NA GBA, use the Quicksave glitch) has a Poison Eagle. Confuse it with the Dancing Dagger, cram an Ether down its throat, and it'll cast Float on you. Give that person a Reflect Ring and job's done.  Holy poo poo this actually worked! Amazing.
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Trasson posted:Summoners might also want Leviathan. Although an inferior cast, if you've developed an Ether and Elixir allergy then !Call gets a little better adding Leviathan to the draw. Additionally, Leviathan becomes the strongest thing you can cast with a Chemist backing you up with Elemental Power mixes, so that's a thing. I'd also like to point out that nearly every enemy in the final area of the Void is weak to water (though Behemoths will counter any magic with Meteor, so be careful with them).
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blakelmenakle posted:Chaos #3: Ninja/Bard/Samurai/Samurai Where's the Shinryu kill?  Oxygen Deficiency posted:
Glad to be of assistance.  We'll always find a way~
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah, Bacchus's Cider (Turtle Shell + Holy Water). It does respect normal berserk immunity, though, so it's for cases like Shinryu, Omniscient, etc. Welp, looks like I'm going to have to grind some more Turtle Shells. According to this map, I can fight Grass Turtles at reasonable odds in the forest next to the Pirate Hideout. That shouldn't take too long. I assume Dragon Fangs can still be found at Drakenvale?
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Kyrosiris posted:Yeah. You come in wearing Reflect Rings and bounce the Mammon berserk to Omniscient, Shinryu (you only want one person wearing a Ring here), etc. Well, whatever works. Thanks to Omniscient's Reset saving me the trip back up the tower with every failure. Now I can loot Istory and grind at the trench if needed. I swear I didn't plan on doing all four tablets with this party. Edit: After giving it a try, I'm not convinced that lamp grinding in the trench is faster than just grinding in the rift for this party. At least I can get a titan axe from Istory, and got to try out a goofy Omniscient strat? maou shoujo fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Jul 7, 2015 |
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First ever Triple Crown! I had to try Omega a few times, switching accessories and whatnot. My first attempt was blasting Thuindaga's off Reflect Rings but for some reason, I couldn't keep Omega calmed down enough. I'm guessing after running out to get Flame Rings in Mirage, on the way back I must have leveled up or something because while Flame Rings didn't work, when I tried reflect rings again, it worked out just fine.  Shinryu was easy peezy. Just tell him that pineapple on pizza is an abomination unto the lord and make like ninja's. :P I really enjoyed this run! Can't wait to apply for a chaos run!
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Kyrosiris posted:Where's the Shinryu kill?  It's taking awhile. 
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blakelmenakle posted:
What up, my Zombrother 
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