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Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
It's a bad fight for Summoners but at least he's not as bad as their OT playing DRG.

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Dubious
Mar 7, 2006

The Heroes the Vikings Deserve
Lipstick Apathy

Doublestep posted:

add his pet into his parse retard, he's doing 793

such pointed words there chief

Dubious
Mar 7, 2006

The Heroes the Vikings Deserve
Lipstick Apathy

Etrips posted:

Well I haven't played this game since launch and had no idea it was still so active. So, thanks.

theres goons on in dgkk at all hours.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Eej posted:

It's a bad fight for Summoners but at least he's not as bad as their OT playing DRG.

Oh right, because of the vuln/defense phases, yeah?

Sendo
Jul 26, 2011

Ciaphas posted:

Does MNK settle down into a fairly clear rotation at 60, the way DRG sort of does (HT, CT combo, phleb, FT combo, repeat forever with oGCDs woven), or is it a bit hand-wavy with which ability you're using for a given stance?

Monk is pretty much the same as it was in 2.0 rotation wise the only real change is you can start fights with 1 stack of GL and your opener is a little different, other than that it plays exactly the same way (with an additional ogcd skill).

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Devor posted:

What's a server that isn't population-locked that a new player might start on with a decent goon presence? Not sure I have the patience to wait for Excalibur.

Create your character in 4 hours from this post as that will be when maintenance is over and you can get in without a problem.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


Got all the stuff I needed to get done for tomorrow done, went to our in, aaaaaaaaaand maintenance. gently caress me sideways. I guess it's movie night instead.

My FC of friends and friends of friends is going along smoothly and I'm almost at WHM so as much as I really wanted to play tonight I guess I can take the night off. Totally enjoying the game, even more than I expected to. It's definitely the best MMO I've played.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Sendo posted:

Monk is pretty much the same as it was in 2.0 rotation wise the only real change is you can start fights with 1 stack of GL and your opener is a little different, other than that it plays exactly the same way (with an additional ogcd skill).

Now if only I could remember how Monk rotation went in ARR :v:

Ojjeorago
Sep 21, 2008

I had a dream, too. It wasn't pleasant, though ... I dreamt I was a moron...
Gary’s Answer

petcarcharodon posted:

Every Alexander group I know that knows what they're doing

There aren't any Alexander groups that know what they're doing, it doesn't exist yet.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Sendo posted:

Monk is pretty much the same as it was in 2.0 rotation wise the only real change is you can start fights with 1 stack of GL and your opener is a little different, other than that it plays exactly the same way (with an additional ogcd skill).

Greased Lightning also refreshes at the start of a skill now and not when it resolves, so no more demolish refreshing your stacks after the counter down hit zero because you were milking every possible second so you wouldn't lose GL to Earthshaker or some other mechanic.

e: goddamnit I wondered where my other post went.

Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Jul 7, 2015

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

Evil Fluffy posted:

Greased Lightning also refreshes at the start of a skill now and not when it resolves, so no more demolish refreshing your stacks after the counter down hit zero because you were milking every possible second so you wouldn't lose GL to Earthshaker or some other mechanic.


If the Dems win Georgia they're winning several more red states beforehand, even if we ignore the voter suppression that Deal and the Georgia GOP engage in.

But how many Greased Lightning stacks will the Dems have?

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
Hello friends, I have updated the MCH guide on ffgoons to include a rotation! Yay. *victory fanfare*

Anyway, I'm still generally a garbage person but I think I've got that part of the guide more or less nailed, so let me know if you have questions/concerns/complaints/general hatred and I will do what I can to make it less lovely. Thank you and have a nice night. :unsmith:

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
I'm sad that Alexander is going to be the expansion version of Coil. It looks so cool but I've never had the patience for "progression raiding". Hopefully the CT equivalent comes out soon.

Sendo
Jul 26, 2011

Verranicus posted:

I'm sad that Alexander is going to be the expansion version of Coil. It looks so cool but I've never had the patience for "progression raiding". Hopefully the CT equivalent comes out soon.

This is the whole reason they are splitting Alexander into two different difficulty levels of normal mode and savage mode.

Gearhead
Feb 13, 2007
The Metroid of Humor

vOv posted:

But how many Greased Lightning stacks will the Dems have?

This depends entirely on how many moonshiners are left.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

petcarcharodon posted:

That's because the point wasn't to make it so people can't omnicraft, but make it so people don't have to. The specialist skills are to make up for not having cross classes.

cheetah7071 posted:

The impression I got was that your specialist ones will always be fine by themselves, but in order to be competent at a non-specialist craft, you have to be a fully-melded, self-hating omnicrafter.

They're gonna need to change something for the upcoming recipes, though, because right now the specialist actions are fairly useless at level 60 due to level 60 recipes having a much, much lower chance of Good Procs than pre-60.

The current recipes are easy enough, but if the next batch gets hard then I can see you being forced to use delineations which is really annoying. Otherwise the Specialist actions are pretty bad to put it bluntly, and I don't see them making the life of anyone easier without a lot of blue scrips. WWYW works good pre-60 but it's unsustainable afterwards.

As it is right now you dont need to be a level 60 omnicrafter but you still need to have the DoH classes leveled to the point where you have access to the same old cross-class skills.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

vOv posted:

But how many Greased Lightning stacks will the Dems have?

Not enough to make me realize I'm pasting something in a reply to a different thread, apparently. :saddowns:

e: vvvv It's just normal and hard Alexander. Normal is apparently "like Coil with echo but not the mechanic nerfs" while hard mode will be easier than savage but harder than normal coil was.

Normal mode Alexander will probably still be harder than EX primals and Crystal Tower by a fair bit.

Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Jul 7, 2015

HitmanAndQuitIt
Sep 13, 2002

dont take extercy

Sendo posted:

This is the whole reason they are splitting Alexander into two different difficulty levels of normal mode and savage mode.

Yeah, haven't they even named it "Story" mode??? It gives me hope I'll be able to casually raid instead of constantly being in groups that can't clear the content

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
im hype for alexander

god bless america

i can't wait to punch goblins in the loving face

i wonder if they're tempered or just being little illuminati shitters

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
Gobbie.... Boom???

mightygerm
Jun 29, 2002



bonewitch posted:

MCH has:
-Virus/Supervirus (though not at the same time)
-MP/TP regen
-Physical/Magical Damage Up (Bard can only do magical damage up, and with WAR buffs physical damage is going to outshadow magic in most raid groups)
-Stun/Bind/Heavy (Situationally Useful)

I'd say MCH > Bard both in utility and damage right now.

the mch foe's is much much worse than bards

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Kitfox88 posted:

im hype for alexander

god bless america

i can't wait to punch goblins in the loving face

i wonder if they're tempered or just being little illuminati shitters

The Illuminati is being controlled.

Alexander was an inside job.

Open your eyes, karakyur.

suztan
Jul 4, 2012

Kitfox88 posted:


i can't wait to punch goblins in the loving face

i wonder if they're tempered or just being little illuminati shitters

They're there to steal the secrets of gobbie cheesemake. You don't need to be corrupted by primals to have a passion for cheese.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Fister Roboto posted:

The Illuminati is being controlled.

Alexander was an inside job.

Open your eyes, karakyur.

gobbie boom can't melt alexander legs

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

Is Alexander like Coil where we'll have a bunch of 'turns' or is it going to be just one huge thing?

mightygerm
Jun 29, 2002



It's going to have turns.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Elentor posted:

They're gonna need to change something for the upcoming recipes, though, because right now the specialist actions are fairly useless at level 60 due to level 60 recipes having a much, much lower chance of Good Procs than pre-60.

The current recipes are easy enough, but if the next batch gets hard then I can see you being forced to use delineations which is really annoying. Otherwise the Specialist actions are pretty bad to put it bluntly, and I don't see them making the life of anyone easier without a lot of blue scrips. WWYW works good pre-60 but it's unsustainable afterwards.

As it is right now you dont need to be a level 60 omnicrafter but you still need to have the DoH classes leveled to the point where you have access to the same old cross-class skills.

My dream situation is that merely having a specialist soul equipped gives you a large boost to good% (bringing one-star in line with pre-50 crafts), and then you can use the consumable when you really want to go all out, and nearly guarantee an HQ even without omnicrafting. This will probably not happen though.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

vOv posted:

Is Alexander like Coil where we'll have a bunch of 'turns' or is it going to be just one huge thing?

It's gonna have floors, apparently. I bet we go up to the head and then down to the feet.

Elentor
Dec 14, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

cheetah7071 posted:

My dream situation is that merely having a specialist soul equipped gives you a large boost to good% (bringing one-star in line with pre-50 crafts), and then you can use the consumable when you really want to go all out, and nearly guarantee an HQ even without omnicrafting. This will probably not happen though.

I think that's how it should be, too. Having the good proc not nerfed would already be a good boost to specializations and it would make the new actions far better than they are at the moment.

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib

Gammatron 64 posted:

I really wish you could have regular hotbars in addition to the cross hotbar on the PS3 like you can on PC. That way I could see the cooldowns for all my abilities and maybe take my hand off the pad for a sec and use a keyboard shortcut \ mouse click to activate things like LB. My lizard decided to take a giant nasty rear end poo poo all over my old keyboard, so now I have a decent wireless mouse \ keyboard combo plugged into my PS3.

Also I wish other PCs and NPCs on PS3 moved at more than like, 5 FPS because it looks super bad. Especially when your character is moving at 30-60 fps.

Yo dude from page 115. You can set horizontal and vertical hot bars to appear in your settings and just drop duplicates on there and tuck it away if you just want to see cool downs.

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
I unlocked ninja just before the servers went down and am sad to see the glory days of lv20-30 with straight shot (10% crit chance increase), boiled egg (8% crit) and internal release and raging strikes are over

But I can gently caress up my ninjutsu and have bunny ears for 2 seconds.

MohShuvuu
Aug 26, 2010

I eat ass.

Doublestep posted:

add his pet into his parse retard, he's doing 793

793 at 5 minutes still isn't very good.

Vil
Sep 10, 2011

Your Dead Gay Son posted:

boiled egg (8% crit)

Boiled Egg increases your crit stat by 8% of whatever that is, capping out at an increase of +2 (when your crit stat is 25 or higher).

In practice this will result in far less than 8% improvement to your actual crit chance.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

Begemot posted:

It's gonna have floors, apparently. I bet we go up to the head and then down to the feet.

I imagine it'd just be like Giant of Babil style.

slev
Apr 6, 2009

Every MCH I have run into in the duty finder so far has decided they need to use their knockback whenever it is off cooldown.

Doublestep
Sep 8, 2013

Keep on keeping on!

MohShuvuu posted:

793 at 5 minutes still isn't very good.

i mean yeah but that entire group's dps is pretty low

also ravana is horrid on smns

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib

Vil posted:

Boiled Egg increases your crit stat by 8% of whatever that is, capping out at an increase of +2 (when your crit stat is 25 or higher).

In practice this will result in far less than 8% improvement to your actual crit chance.

Boo I should've known. Thanks for the heads up.

How embarrassing.

Gearhead
Feb 13, 2007
The Metroid of Humor

Fister Roboto posted:

The Illuminati is being controlled.

Alexander was an inside job.

Open your eyes, karakyur.

Thinking into this a bit more, I'm starting to wonder if Alexander was there the whole time. He wasn't simply summoned DURING that scene.

Perhaps the colony was established to study the shield and what may have been in it.. and as it turns out, it was the Goblin Primal.

And Alexander's awakening is somehow, perhaps, tied into the crap going on in Azys Lla.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




Gearhead posted:

Thinking into this a bit more, I'm starting to wonder if Alexander was there the whole time. He wasn't simply summoned DURING that scene.

Perhaps the colony was established to study the shield and what may have been in it.. and as it turns out, it was the Goblin Primal.

And Alexander's awakening is somehow, perhaps, tied into the crap going on in Azys Lla.

Unless they changed the premise, Alexander is inhabiting a giant mechanical fortress. Basically, the thing was there and the primal is possessing it, as opposed to manifesting a form that's entirely composed of aether.

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Magil Zeal
Nov 24, 2008

Gearhead posted:

Thinking into this a bit more, I'm starting to wonder if Alexander was there the whole time. He wasn't simply summoned DURING that scene.

Perhaps the colony was established to study the shield and what may have been in it.. and as it turns out, it was the Goblin Primal.

And Alexander's awakening is somehow, perhaps, tied into the crap going on in Azys Lla.

Well, going by the official preview...

That Link posted:

Since the Sharlayan exodus, a structure has stood steady against the flow of the Thaliak River. Now, the Illuminati have summoned a primal around this rusting ruin─a terrible colossus of steam and metal. Steel screamed against steel when it rose from the waters, and it drank deep of the land's aether before grinding again to a halt.

The structure was always there, but the preview at least suggests that the primal was summoned by the Illuminati. Of course, who knows what will be ~revealed~ later.

Magil Zeal fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Jul 7, 2015

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