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Brannock posted:Is it really that much to expect the leader of the loving United States of America to be well-educated? No, it is not. But attacking a candidate based on their education level isn't going to have the desired effect in a general election and would only open up the Democratic candidate to charges of elitism.
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Brannock posted:Is it really that much to expect the leader of the loving United States of America to be well-educated? Going to college doesn't necessarily mean one is well-educated and equipped to handle the presidency. Similarly not going to college doesn't necessarily mean one is completely uneducated. Yeah the president should probably not be a dumbass (hello, Bush!) but really.
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Lu Yan posted:Of all the horrible poo poo Walker has done or will do, harping on him for not having a degree is the most insulting latte liberal thing, and I'm a latte loving liberal. If Walker makes it to the general, this line of attack will backfire on any Dem that tries it. Legitimacy of the argument aside, it's just interesting to see a POLITICO article give a full-throated defense of a particular candidate. It's certainly quite different from their coverage of, say, Hillary.
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Lu Yan posted:Of all the horrible poo poo Walker has done or will do, harping on him for not having a degree is the most insulting latte liberal thing, and I'm a latte loving liberal. If Walker makes it to the general, this line of attack will backfire on any Dem that tries it. The greatest triumph of democracy will be when it elects to biggest imbecile into power. DaveWoo posted:Legitimacy of the argument aside, it's just interesting to see a POLITICO article give a full-throated defense of a particular candidate. It's certainly quite different from their coverage of, say, Hillary. A lot of the press has been attacking her.
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if anyone cares if he doesnt have a degree then they are idiots hope this helps
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pangstrom posted:I mean it isn't really POLITICO it's a couple professors, for one it's his major research thesis (that government is too "white collar" and basically benefits only the upper class) and the other had access to relevant data. I mean I basically agree with their point and also think Walker is awful. If only there were some kind of Great Leap we could take Forward where we could have government run by people who don't know what they're doing and also make lattes in backyard furnaces out of raw milk.
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Eonwe posted:if anyone cares if he doesnt have a degree then they are idiots expanding on this - college is daycare for young adults and doesnt prove you are intelligent or capable you can learn a lot in college or you can also learn nothing and still get your degree
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Lu Yan posted:Of all the horrible poo poo Walker has done or will do, harping on him for not having a degree is the most insulting latte liberal thing, and I'm a latte loving liberal. If Walker makes it to the general, this line of attack will backfire on any Dem that tries it. I wouldn't harp on him for not having a degree. It's going and not finishing that's embarrassing. Everyone that I can think of that didn't finish was downright lazy.
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Leviathan Song posted:I wouldn't harp on him for not having a degree. It's going and not finishing that's embarrassing. Everyone that I can think of that didn't finish was downright lazy. i heard he got kicked out for trying to rig student council elections, and that he ran on a platform of explicitly supporting apartheid south africa or something
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Eonwe posted:expanding on this - college is daycare for young adults and doesnt prove you are intelligent or capable And yet Walker just couldn't complete that one last semester of day care.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:And yet Walker just couldn't complete that one last semester of day care. so what
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Leviathan Song posted:I wouldn't harp on him for not having a degree. It's going and not finishing that's embarrassing. Everyone that I can think of that didn't finish was downright lazy. Lazy, shiftless Bill Gates. *sips soy latte, nibbles arugula salad*
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Leviathan Song posted:I wouldn't harp on him for not having a degree. It's going and not finishing that's embarrassing. Everyone that I can think of that didn't finish was downright lazy. That's why he's a stupid poo poo, and he's actively preventing others from at least attempting to go to college. Eonwe posted:so what We're not getting a president who went to a community college, nor gave up on college. Give it up.
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Eonwe posted:expanding on this - college is daycare for young adults and doesnt prove you are intelligent or capable A reminder to the thread, forum poster and known Marble Enthusiast Eripsa is a goddamn professor and he is one of the stupidest mother fuckers on the planet.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Lazy, shiftless Bill Gates. That's an avtext post combo for the ages..
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Logikv9 posted:I think it'll be back in some form on some network/distribution outlet. He may have lost the show on NBC but a large portion of his value is his name and you need to keep promoting it somehow. The issue with this interpretation is that not all publicity is good publicity. The value of Trump's name is dropping as he steadily becomes more toxic and the scale shifts from people thinking he's a mega rich billionaire who's good with money to people thinking he's a loudmouthed idiot with more money than brains. Prior to his presidential run debacle, Trump was doing pretty well as far as having a valuable brand and plastering his name on everything from boxers to major hotels. I don't think this whole thing was done out of any business savvy, just all encompassing narcissism.
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Let's not forget that Jeb! finished magna cum laude in 2.5 years at UTA. He can absolutely use this against Walker with no come back about the Ivy League or graduate school available. It makes Walker look look like a lazy stoner by comparison.
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The only college acceptable to be President going forward that's not IVY is Stanford. Sorry A&Mailures.
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Trump: ‘I’ll win the Latino vote’quote:The man who declared some Mexican immigrants to be criminals and “rapists” three weeks ago now says he’ll win the Latino vote in 2016.
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trump owns because I get to hopefully watch a debate with him which will honestly be hilarious people like my grandfather are the ones who would vote for trump because he is a 'bidnessman' instead of some hosed up weirdo who has managed to come back from bankruptcy multiple times and then ruin his brand by claiming a whole race of people are rapists
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I feel like Walker is going to get torn to shreds in any debate with a non-moron without extensive coaching.
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Pinche gringo loco, jajaja.
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Ell oh loving ell.
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Monkey Fracas posted:I feel like Walker is going to get torn to shreds in any debate with a non-moron without extensive coaching. the college point is dumb but  with thishe would be competitive with Perry and Trump I guess
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Lu Yan posted:Of all the horrible poo poo Walker has done or will do, harping on him for not having a degree is the most insulting latte liberal thing, and I'm a latte loving liberal. If Walker makes it to the general, this line of attack will backfire on any Dem that tries it. While it would be dumb for Hillary or Bernie's campaigns to use it, I see no problem with the SuperPACs hammering on the fact that Walker couldn't hack it at Marquette. Don't paint him as a moron, paint him as a quitter--and then put his face next to Sarah Palin's.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Guys Jeb is going to win the nomination okay. the shiniest turd
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Guys Ted Cruz is going to win the nomination okay. Texas owns.
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ElrondHubbard posted:The issue with this interpretation is that not all publicity is good publicity. The value of Trump's name is dropping as he steadily becomes more toxic and the scale shifts from people thinking he's a mega rich billionaire who's good with money to people thinking he's a loudmouthed idiot with more money than brains. I never said he did this out of any business savvy. I think he did his annual "I'm running for President" routine but this time he was either deluded enough or bored enough to go a little further. The clusterfuck only happened really after he opened his mouth to speak. His name wasn't exactly highly-prized before either. When you think Trump pre-election, you just think "douchebag". He had plenty of public spats and stupid poo poo done outside of politics to make plenty of enemies. But enough people were taken in by him enough to actually purchase his stuff, watch his show, etc allowing his business deals to stay afloat. Sure, he's a little bit more toxic now than before and he's lost plenty of business deals that will definitely hurt him. But he still has that 100% name recognition, and all this stuff will most certainly be forgotten in time. And his name is still unfortunately associated with "tons of money", which is something he himself likes saying every other sentence. You're rich and people know you. He could probably make a good buck by having a bunch of "business success" seminars, which he basically already did.
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Bicyclops posted:Gawker, I know, but this is still a good list of people who have dumped Trump, all assembled together: I hope they keep it updated.  Then again, even if everyone severed their ties with Trump, the page would probably still be shorter than the Carly Fiorina : ( page. 
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Trump sits up in bed, his hair also springing to life, and contemplates the question that has driven his life for the past few months: "How can I be as ridiculous as possible today?"
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Luigi Thirty posted:If only there were some kind of Great Leap we could take Forward where we could have government run by people who don't know what they're doing and also make lattes in backyard furnaces out of raw milk.
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Anyone who uses the "didn't finish college" attack on Walker is a fool because you obviously don't need it to dismantle him and I can't wait to see him try to talk like a big boy that doesn't have a big Koch hand up his rear end working him like a potato-faced puppet.
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Ronald Reagan graduated from college. Why didn't Scott Walker want to be like Reagan? Vote Jindal 2016.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:And yet Walker just couldn't complete that one last semester of day care. And I don't know if the earlier person was being serious, but Marquette explicitly stated years ago that Walker was not kicked out or suspended for any reason. There's so much to loathe about Walker already; don't waste time on the college stuff because it won't matter.
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Bicyclops posted:Gawker, I know, but this is still a good list of people who have dumped Trump, all assembled together: I was actually looking for something like this the other day
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Potential candidates who dare to dream like Walker are scrubs.
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Grey Fox posted:This is more common than you probably realize, and it's often not for a lack of trying on the student's part. Academic advising/degree pathing has been a joke at most higher ed institutions for years and many schools are starting to realize there are significant graduation rate gains to be made by focusing on seniors. That includes earlier/more frequent interactions with professional advisers, lowering the student-to-adviser ratio, giving seniors priority registration for required courses, greater availability of required courses, additional financial support for students on the edge of graduation, and limits on the number of electives a student can take in his or her undergraduate career. Yeah, there's a reason why most universities use 6 year graduation rates, and it's not just because students need tons of extra help. I probably could have graduated a semester earlier if all the classes were available on time. It's also because in a 4 year plan lots of students would have multiple 18 hour semesters!
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