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Scott Walker : A series of unfortunate events. Its such a strange thing that he won 3 times in a row, he's a terrible public speaker, he has no real deep understanding of economics, and is basically the Smiler from Warren Ellis's Transmetropolitan. Walker is frightening.
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Both the "everyone without a degree is a simpleton" and "higher education is entirely a rich kid daycare at the undergraduate level" are gross oversimplifications, but in either case they are a red herring, because Walker is an idiot independent of his credentials.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:05
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Hollismason posted:Scott Walker : A series of unfortunate events. He really is the worse candidate, and that's why he needs to be tarnished and libeled, I don't really give a drat about touchy-feely Democrats this election wanting to kumbaya with Republicans, these people have to be stopped and told to sit the gently caress down.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:05
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The power of Kocha Kola.
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Nonsense posted:He really is the worse candidate, and that's why he needs to be tarnished and libeled, I don't really give a drat about touchy-feely Democrats this election wanting to kumbaya with Republicans, these people have to be stopped and told to sit the gently caress down. We'll see what happens when they get out of the primaries and into the general, but at the moment we're square in the "give them enough rope to hang themselves with" phase.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:08
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Walker isn't an idiot because he dropped out of college, he dropped out of college because he's an idiot.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:09
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I just think he's a functional sociopath, the idea that all sociopaths are intelligent is kind of a urban myth. Most have average or below average intelligence. What they excel at is manipulation. So no I don't think he's a idiot, I think he's a function sociopath who's desire to hold power has led him to openly agreeing to any back room deal and using any tactic necessary to gain power. I think the comparison with Nixon is appropriate.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:13
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Grey Fox posted:And I don't know if the earlier person was being serious, but Marquette explicitly stated years ago that Walker was not kicked out or suspended for any reason. There's so much to loathe about Walker already; don't waste time on the college stuff because it won't matter. This is the key point. There is no use wasting a minute of time on his college background when you can simply just discuss any of his many lovely policies or failures. He's a complete moron and hopefully being on the national stage will force him to actually answer a loving question, or at least make him squirm in front of a huge audience.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:18
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walker is probably the worst person in the field, even worse than Trump at least Trump really can't do any actual harm, Walker has and will continue to actually gently caress things up that matter
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Jul 8, 2015 17:19
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Hollismason posted:I just think he's a functional sociopath, the idea that all sociopaths are intelligent is kind of a urban myth. Most have average or below average intelligence. What they excel at is manipulation. So no I don't think he's a idiot, I think he's a function sociopath who's desire to hold power has led him to openly agreeing to any back room deal and using any tactic necessary to gain power. I don't, because for all his many, many personal failings, Nixon was incredibly well-read and sought always to be as well informed as he could on whatever he was dealing with (largely as he resented northeastern bluebloods looking down their nose at him), even if he then went on to do something despicable and paranoid.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:27
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mintskoal posted:This is the key point. There is no use wasting a minute of time on his college background when you can simply just discuss any of his many lovely policies or failures. He's a complete moron and hopefully being on the national stage will force him to actually answer a loving question, or at least make him squirm in front of a huge audience. Opponents should and likely will (if he makes it to the general, few if any of his GOP opponents are going to call out his record), but I think it holds at least a little water. Not a major line of attack, but remember we're in a campaign where there's already been a week-long  scandal based on where Hillary stopped to get lunch one day. A SuperPAC attack ad sniping him with it could get in a decent zinger with the Gen-X/Millineal crowd. "You worked for years to get a degree, put yourself into tens of thousands of dollars of debt and the promise of a good job turned out to be working in the mail room for a dollar over minimum wage. Everything you apply for wants a Master's plus 2-6 years industry experience. This slack-jawed idiot dropped out and has never held a real job in his life. He thinks he should be President. Shouldn't you expect a President who's the best this country can offer, rather than someone who's dumber and less experienced than you are?" Not the best, but it could get traction.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:32
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Nonsense posted:He really is the worse candidate, and that's why he needs to be tarnished and libeled, I don't really give a drat about touchy-feely Democrats this election wanting to kumbaya with Republicans, these people have to be stopped and told to sit the gently caress down. If the Obama administration teaches us nothing else, let it be this.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:41
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To me, it's not that he left college. It's that he left to start his political career. He lost the one thing he was in college for (to be SBP), so he dropped out and ran for another office in the State House. I would prefer a candidate with some living experience and accomplishment outside getting elected. At least Obama was a law prof and Hillary was a lawyer and Sanders built bongs or whatever you do for a living in VT. He apparently had some Red Cross job in college, but he specifically left to run for something.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:54
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De Nomolos posted:Sanders built bongs or whatever you do for a living in VT. There are lots of other things!! You can sell the bongs to people from Connecticut coming in to ski, for one!
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Jul 8, 2015 17:58
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De Nomolos posted:and Sanders built bongs or whatever you do for a living in VT. We boil maple sap make better cheese than Wisconsin, and don't you forget it.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:58
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Weltlich posted:We boil maple sap make better cheese than Wisconsin, and don't you forget it. Vermont Creamery is the poo poo, yo.
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Jul 8, 2015 17:59
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De Nomolos posted:Sanders built bongs or whatever you do for a living in VT. He lived on a kibbutz for a couple of years and then returned to begin building socialism in our country.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:04
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De Nomolos posted:... whatever you do for a living in VT. 
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Jul 8, 2015 18:09
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Kro-Bar posted:He's out and getting blowjobs from the NY Times! This is less of a blowjob and more the NYT not-so-subtly mocking him with their questions and making him look like an idiot: quote:What did you learn about the natives? I mean, that's pretty good.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:10
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Raskolnikov38 posted:He lived on a kibbutz for a couple of years and then returned to begin building socialism in our country. I'm personally glad of him
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Jul 8, 2015 18:11
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I don't, because for all his many, many personal failings, Nixon was incredibly well-read and sought always to be as well informed as he could on whatever he was dealing with (largely as he resented northeastern bluebloods looking down their nose at him), even if he then went on to do something despicable and paranoid. Pretty much. Nixon spent his whole life busting his rear end in order to get what he wanted, and I know that if he were alive today at the very least he'd have nothing but contempt for people like Sarah Palin and Scott Walker who have literally done nothing to get where they are. It's the same reason he hated Kennedy so much.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:12
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I mean call me elitist if you'd like but I'd rather not have a college drop out for a president. I'd vote for a guy/gal who didn't go to college, and I'd vote for guy/gal who did go to college, but dropping out seems like the worst way to handle it.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:15
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Just pretend he wasn't rich, nor hungered for power, then you realize he's a dweeb.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:16
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Zelder posted:I mean call me elitist if you'd like but I'd rather not have a college drop out for a president. I'd vote for a guy/gal who didn't go to college, and I'd vote for guy/gal who did go to college, but dropping out seems like the worst way to handle it. You want everybody in America to go to college. What a snob
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Jul 8, 2015 18:18
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Alter Ego posted:Pretty much. Nixon spent his whole life busting his rear end in order to get what he wanted, and I know that if he were alive today at the very least he'd have nothing but contempt for people like Sarah Palin and Scott Walker who have literally done nothing to get where they are. It's the same reason he hated Kennedy so much. True, but then again "If Nixon was alive today, he'd have nothing but contempt for [PERSON]" is trivially correct for just about anybody you could care to name.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:18
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Zelder posted:I mean call me elitist if you'd like but I'd rather not have a college drop out for a president. I'd vote for a guy/gal who didn't go to college, and I'd vote for guy/gal who did go to college, but dropping out seems like the worst way to handle it. why do you care poo poo happens, life happens there are literally a million reasons good and bad someone may not finish college it shouldnt be an election issue there are a million reasons why walker is a hosed up and bad person, him leaving college doesnt even register
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Jul 8, 2015 18:18
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Jul 8, 2015 18:22
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I forgot that Legal Immigration is going to be a Republican campaign issue.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:23
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Zelder posted:I mean call me elitist if you'd like but I'd rather not have a college drop out for a president. I'd vote for a guy/gal who didn't go to college, and I'd vote for guy/gal who did go to college, but dropping out seems like the worst way to handle it. You are a snob, sorry. Lots of people drop out of college for reasons that are perfectly legitimate.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:23
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Eonwe posted:walker is probably the worst person in the field, even worse than Trump Trump has actually caused quite a bit of harm to people that he's fleeced of money.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:24
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What's nice about Trump running for President is that he's probably caught the eye of the IRS and FBI.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:25
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gradenko_2000 posted:Trump has actually caused quite a bit of harm to people that he's fleeced of money. Yeah, true I guess. Revising my statement to say that Walker has hurt a lot of people and is a bad person, and so is Trump
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Jul 8, 2015 18:28
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Nonsense posted:What's nice about Trump running for President is that he's probably caught the eye of the IRS and FBI. Both of which are under the purview of the President, so if he gets investigated by either one he will just cry persecution and the right will eat it up with a spoon.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:29
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Donald is bringing birtherism back?! 
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Jul 8, 2015 18:29
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Alter Ego posted:Both of which are under the purview of the President, so if he gets investigated by either one he will just cry persecution and the right will eat it up with a spoon. Then again people who go higher-profile than normal tend to be bad at covering their tracks. Even Obama cannot prevent them from taking slam dunks.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:30
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Kro-Bar posted:Donald is bringing birtherism back?! Oh, please...please make the media ask the other candidates "Donald Trump says that President Obama still has not released his real birth certificate. Do you agree or disagree?" The only way he could make the RNC's day worse is by reviving birtherism.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:31
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Alter Ego posted:Both of which are under the purview of the President, so if he gets investigated by either one he will just cry persecution and the right will eat it up with a spoon. The right has been a non-stop chorus crying persecution for ages. If they're gonna scream about it anyway, may as well satisfy our schadenfreude 
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Jul 8, 2015 18:31
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Nonsense posted:What's nice about Trump running for President is that he's probably caught the eye of the IRS and FBI. I'm sure that prior to this campaign, the IRS was totally unaware of the TV star media mogul with all those casinos and skyscrapers named after him.
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Jul 8, 2015 18:32
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Powered Descent posted:I'm sure that prior to this campaign, the IRS was totally unaware of the TV star media mogul with all those casinos and skyscrapers named after him. He's making a move to be their boss, might want to nip that in the bud if they can.
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Powered Descent posted:I'm sure that prior to this campaign, the IRS was totally unaware of the TV star media mogul with all those casinos and skyscrapers named after him. The scrutiny that a media mogul with lots of money and no brains endures is nothing next to that which a Presidential candidate endures.
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