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The difference between "socialist" and "democratic socialist" is about as well understood in popular culture as "socialist" and "national socialist".
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Jul 8, 2015 23:05
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Joementum posted:The Walker pre-announcement announcement video features a solid 30 seconds of Rachel Maddow. You can really feel the production value. Forget Trump, Walker's going to have the gold-plated campaign.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:06
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Nintendo Kid posted:Bernie Sanders is incapable of doing anything more about that than Hillary Clinton, or even Martin O'Malley. He'd probably do better than Webb, but so would anyone else. It's incredible how no one is capable of possibly doing anything more than Hillary, yet some will fall short of what she wants to do. Truly incredible. Almost beyond belief, even. A baseless, self-serving assumption, even.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:06
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Captain_Maclaine posted:You're deeply underestimating just how poisoned the word socialist is, even twenty-plus years on since the end of the Cold War. I'm a Vermonter who's been paying at least passing attention to, and voting for, Bernie for my entire adult life and I'm willing to admit the reality that even given the disenchantment many other Americans are feeling with the capitalist status quo, an awful lot of them (and not just the conservatives) still unthinkingly react negatively to "socialism" and anything related to it. That Bernie is, at best, more in line with your average European social democrat doesn't much matter when so many people still shut down when they hear the word out loud. Doesn't matter how much he explains what he means or how much what he says is actually in line with what people want, given that. The majority of Americans believe Obama to be a socialist. Clearly he should not have been elected and re-elected? http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/07/poll-55-of-likely-voters-think-obama-is-a-socialist/59463/ quote:First, when asked if they thought the president was a socialist, 55 percent of likely voters said yes. Only 39 percent said no.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:it looks like hes just thinking up an awesome comeback in his head but hes too intimidated to actually say it he actually never said the quote in the image aloud
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computer parts posted:The difference between "socialist" and "democratic socialist" is about as well understood in popular culture as "socialist" and "national socialist". I'm OK with socialism so long as I still get to hate everybody that's different than me.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:07
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:The majority of Americans believe Obama to be a socialist. Clearly he should not have been elected and re-elected?
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Jul 8, 2015 23:08
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computer parts posted:The difference between "socialist" and "democratic socialist" is about as well understood in popular culture as "socialist" and "national socialist". democratic socialist: the best places to live socalist: the worst places to live national socialist: the worst places to live if you're jewish
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Jul 8, 2015 23:08
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I'm OK with socialism so long as I still get to hate everybody that's different than me. Scandinavia has a ticket with your name on it.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:09
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Eonwe posted:Lol if you are going to make your decision on who to vote for based on their degree or lack of a degree than almost anything else I don't know how to reply to you even, sorry about your bad opinions though What part of "I don't care about this but plenty of people will in a general election" are you too stupid to understand? Yes it's a stupid thing to judge a candidate on. So is race and birthplace and previous career and yet. You're arguing against a stupid American electorate by calling posters here dumb.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:11
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there's a political movement in the uk, i don't remember what it's called, but it's simultaneously racist and pro-protectionism/social safety, which is the most scientifically valid way to be imo
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Jul 8, 2015 23:11
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Nessus posted:What you're saying is that, since he won, people would in fact be pleased with a guy who was in fact in thrall to the Pope. Or that they didn't really give a poo poo?
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Jul 8, 2015 23:14
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Rand Paul is catchin' on (I'm tellin' ya) with students from the Maharishi University of Management, in Fairfield, Iowa. In case you don't know what that is:quote:Followers of the maharishi, who died in 2008, frequently see themselves on a journey to fix the world—not through conquest but through expanding minds. Every afternoon, at least 1,700 meditators gather in the Bagambhrini and Patanjali Golden Domes on the Maharishi University campus, not far from the Tower of Invincibility. The number is important: 1,700 is 1 percent of the U.S. population divided by its square root. According to the maharishi’s teaching, that’s the minimum needed to generate the Maharishi Effect—a decrease in crime and violence caused by the positive vibes generated by the meditators. “These are people who want to perfect their health and their world,” Leahy says. “There’s a lot of consciousness toward perfecting the environment.” They believe they can achieve this through collective transcendental meditation which enabled yogic flying and produces good vibes. Here's a video demonstration of yogic flying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyXAB5L3EIQ John Hagelin, one of the movement's biggest promoters, ran for President on the Natural Law Party ticket in 1992, 1996, and 2000 and got more votes in Florida than the difference between Bush and Gore that last time. His platform was very similar to (what people believe is) Rand's today: end aggressive wars, legalize drugs, enact a flat tax.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:14
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Joementum posted:maharishi  That guy didn't die until 2008?!?!?
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Jul 8, 2015 23:16
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Grey Fox posted:At least one site is saying the pants comment was aimed at Jonah Goldberg, not Krauthammer. Some kind of fat joke? Well it makes sense if the attribution was wrong because I copied that from CNN
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Jul 8, 2015 23:19
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Raskolnikov38 posted:
I wiki'd him and he was born in 1918, so he died at age 90, which isn't crazy. He was 50 when he met the Beatles.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:20
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mr. mephistopheles posted:What part of "I don't care about this but plenty of people will in a general election" are you too stupid to understand? Yes it's a stupid thing to judge a candidate on. So is race and birthplace and previous career and yet. You're arguing against a stupid American electorate by calling posters here dumb. Oh my god get over it dude. Anyone here that cares about it is dumb, sorry I'm hurting your tender feelings. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jul 8, 2015 23:22
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It's why they get elected. Vox Nihili posted:It's incredible how no one is capable of possibly doing anything more than Hillary, yet some will fall short of what she wants to do. Truly incredible. Almost beyond belief, even. A baseless, self-serving assumption, even. The president isn't a dictator.  But Webb is a total dickhead and seriously might as well be running as a "Reasonable Republican" in today's climate.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:24
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Joementum posted:The Walker pre-announcement announcement video features a solid 30 seconds of Rachel Maddow. The Recall was one of the worst political moves by the Democrats in the last 50 years. It literally made Scott Walker a national WRM celebrity and its one of his only successes in office.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:24
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Nintendo Kid posted:It's why they get elected. You're just mad at Webb because he's going to steal the moderates from Hillary and guarantee Bernie's glorious victory, causing you to melt.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:30
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:You're just mad at Webb because he's going to steal the moderates from Hillary and guarantee Bernie's glorious victory, causing you to melt. Webb couldn't successfully steal candy from a baby.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:34
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quite the fucker posted:there's a political movement in the uk, i don't remember what it's called, but it's simultaneously racist and pro-protectionism/social safety, which is the most scientifically valid way to be imo You're thinking UKIP, who I gather are kinda the Dixiecrats of the 21st Century.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:37
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Joementum posted:The Walker pre-announcement announcement video features a solid 30 seconds of Rachel Maddow. drat, this campaign gets it. He's going to sail through the primaries by ignoring his opponents and just taunting the left the entire time.
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Hey, girl. I'm running for President.... ... of your  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg9Liwfs_tI
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Jul 8, 2015 23:39
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Sir Tonk posted:If that was what I said, perhaps, but your constant trolling isn't even as creative as TheDisreputableDog. How gauche.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:39
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Nintendo Kid posted:Webb couldn't successfully steal candy from a baby. I have no doubt Hillary could, and and maybe even has.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:40
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PupsOfWar posted:You're thinking UKIP, who I gather are kinda the Dixiecrats of the 21st Century. With UKIP I gather that there's a considerable disconnect between the leadership and a lot of their disaffected white working-class voters in 2015; Farage, for instance, favors more privatization, which I don't imagine goes over well with UKIP voters in places like Wales and Yorkshire who want their social safety nets and more protection from globalization
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Jul 8, 2015 23:40
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:With UKIP I gather that there's a considerable disconnect between the leadership and a lot of their disaffected white working-class voters in 2015; Farage, for instance, favors more privatization, which I don't imagine goes over well with UKIP voters in places like Wales and Yorkshire who want their social safety nets and more protection from globalization
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Jul 8, 2015 23:42
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Such a fun list to scan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endorsements_for_the_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016 Wonder if Rand will take advantage of that Alex Jones endorsement?
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Jul 8, 2015 23:43
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:With UKIP I gather that there's a considerable disconnect between the leadership and a lot of their disaffected white working-class voters in 2015; Farage, for instance, favors more privatization, which I don't imagine goes over well with UKIP voters in places like Wales and Yorkshire who want their social safety nets and more protection from globalization Farage has described himself as a libertarian, which yeah definitely runs contrary to much of the party base.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:44
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Eonwe posted:Oh my god get over it dude. Anyone here that cares about it is dumb, sorry I'm hurting your tender feelings. Eonwe, he's not saying Walker should be judged based on not having a degree, he's saying Walker will be judged. And Starlord's right. Just look what happened in the last few pages. Regarding Bernie: I'm super excited to see he's polling so well. I know he's a long shot, but charisma matters, and I think he has more than Hillary despite being a crazy haired grandpa. His charisma combined with progressive Dems desperate for what he represents could mean he has some real sticking power. Hell, I may even get a chance to vote for him in California! 
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Jul 8, 2015 23:46
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De Nomolos posted:Such a fun list to scan: 
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Farage has described himself as a libertarian, which yeah definitely runs contrary to much of the party base. I assumed UKIP gained most of its ground with being both anti-immigrant and anti-EU and people overlooked the rest.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:48
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De Nomolos posted:Such a fun list to scan: 
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Dahbadu posted:Eonwe, he's not saying Walker should be judged based on not having a degree, he's saying Walker will be judged. And Starlord's right. Just look what happened in the last few pages. Aside from Hillary, he's got the best shot out of anybody running to be The 45th President of the United States 
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Hey before this argument takes off again, perhaps it's time to split this thread into democrat and republican primary threads? I know this isn't going to happen but mods please...
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Jul 8, 2015 23:56
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Dahbadu posted:Eonwe, he's not saying Walker should be judged based on not having a degree, he's saying Walker will be judged. And Starlord's right. Just look what happened in the last few pages. I get what he is saying, I'm just still saying its stupid and anyone that cares about it is stupid and he is I guess taking that super personal even though its not directed at him????? anyway Bernie is good and I support him and I think his chances are better now than even a few weeks ago. Remains to be seen how much support he'll pick up outside of left leaning white guys like me tho
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Alkydere posted:Challenge anyone who says the Confederate Flag is "about heritage", or their heritage, and/or it's the battle flag and not the actual flag of the CSA to do the Rebel Yell on the spot. If it's part of your goddamned heritage you better be able to howl like a demented werewolf on the spot. I know you're probably joking but lots of memoirs and letters from the Union soldiers during and after the Civil War stated that, unless you were in an actual battle against the Army of Northern Virginia, you haven't heard the rebel yell. People tried to get Confederate Veterans to repeat it during the war and immediately afterwards, in like 1866, and basically everyone involved was like "yeah you just had to be there."
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