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I believe that's the segment where Sid says "I don't know poo poo, crybaby"
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Minidust posted:I might be misremembering, but in the build for Wrestlemania 13 it was implied that Taker vs. Sid would happen regardless of whether Sid was still the champion or not. So when Bret had a title match with Sid on Raw, Taker helped Sid win to ensure that his match at Wrestlemania would still be for the title. Bret had his whole "THIS IS BULLSHIT!" promo after that. They mentioned a few times during the Cesaro matches that Owens would be fighting whoever had the title and I think they also said as much when Rusev was squashing guys ("but what if this chucklefuck wins???  "), so it seems like that's the new "rule."
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Jul 8, 2015 19:48
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oatgan posted:I believe that's the segment where Sid says "I don't know poo poo, crybaby" Greatest ad lib in pro wrestling history, IMHO.
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Jul 8, 2015 19:52
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Has anyone ever heard a fan unironically refer to the WWE's product as sports entertainment? They've been trying desperately for years to shed themselves of the "pro wrestling" label, and it doesn't seem like they've succeeded even the slightest. I've certainly never heard kids or casual fans talk about who their favorite sports entertainer is or having a desire to go to that sports entertainment show next month. I guess tbf they stress the term WWE Superstar/Diva a lot harder, but even the preteen kid that came into my workplace wearing a John Cena shirt was begging his dad to go see wrestling, not WWE. Thauros fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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Yeah, I have never heard anyone say "it's not wrestling, it's sports entertainment" the way some fans of comics actually have said "it's not a comic book, it's a graphic novel." As a term of art/branding I think it only exists in the mind of Kevin Dunn and maybe a handful of other people at the top. Business-wise, it's a distinction that exists to protect WWE from having to deal with SAG or SACs. ayn rand hand job posted:so vince is literally every other wrestling promoter Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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Thauros posted:I guess tbf they stress the term WWE Superstar/Diva a lot harder, but even the preteen kid that came into my workplace wearing a John Cena shirt was begging his dad to go see wrestling, not WWE. There is not a single elementary school kid in North America that does not call it wrestling, and there never will be.
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Jul 8, 2015 21:00
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I've heard people say "sports entertainment" as a description of what WWE/wrestling is but not as a replacement for the word "wrestling"
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Jul 8, 2015 21:07
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Blast Fantasto posted:Greatest ad lib in pro wrestling history, IMHO. How about you, Dracula, you fat bastard
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Jul 8, 2015 21:07
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Remember when an overzealous PR person corrected someone by saying that they don't have matches in WWE, they have entertainments?
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titties posted:How about you, Dracula, you fat bastard Kevin Nash thought he was dead LOL
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Halloween Jack posted:OMG Kevin Nash WTF thought he was dead LOL
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oatgan posted:I've heard people say "sports entertainment" as a description of what WWE/wrestling is but not as a replacement for the word "wrestling" imo I see sports entertainment as a subgenre of pro wrestling, like lucha, strong-style, or catch
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Halloween Jack posted:Except for the parts where the business is surviving on a show-to-show basis and you have competition from other promoters, yeah. Cutting out that dynamic changes the business environment completely. On not being able to unionize? Not really.
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Jul 8, 2015 21:45
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titties posted:How about you, Dracula, you fat bastard That's a close second. Third is "GIMME A FUCKIN MIC"
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Thauros posted:Has anyone ever heard a fan unironically refer to the WWE's product as sports entertainment? They've been trying desperately for years to shed themselves of the "pro wrestling" label, and it doesn't seem like they've succeeded even the slightest. I've certainly never heard kids or casual fans talk about who their favorite sports entertainer is or having a desire to go to that sports entertainment show next month.
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titties posted:How about you, Dracula, you fat bastard "Now coming to the ring at...I don't know, a buck and a quarter, Anorexic Annie and Karen Carpenter!"
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Jul 8, 2015 22:12
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Big Sexy The Giant Killer Depeche Mode Fan The Best Ever Kevin Nash.
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Does anyone know of a promo from Triple H that really exemplifies how awful and boring his 02 reign of terror was? Trying to find one to show a friend how awful that period was.
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chinesemethdragon posted:Does anyone know of a promo from Triple H that really exemplifies how awful and boring his 02 reign of terror was? Trying to find one to show a friend how awful that period was. just tell him that triple h had a feud with booker t that was all about triple h being racist as gently caress, and triple h won the match clean
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chinesemethdragon posted:Does anyone know of a promo from Triple H that really exemplifies how awful and boring his 02 reign of terror was? Trying to find one to show a friend how awful that period was. Pick any Raw at random from the moment he was awarded the World title in '02 through losing it to Benoit in '04. Twenty minute opening segments of Triple H alone in the ring repeating himself about how he's so much better than everyone else.
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Jul 9, 2015 02:34
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Either that one, or the Katie Vick promo where HHH lays out how Kane murdered a girl. Not the video evidence though because that poo poo was hilarious.
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Defiance Industries posted:Either that one, or the Katie Vick promo where HHH lays out how Kane murdered a girl. Not the video evidence though because that poo poo was hilarious. He also got the honor of being the person to finally unmask Kane after six years.
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None of those promos work because they're actually memorable. You need HHH droning on and on about how great he is with no direction, which is basically 90% of the Raws from that time that we've all forgotten.
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Jul 9, 2015 02:42
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What was the 45 minute HHH in a chair promo
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Shane Douglas promos vs Triple H promos, go.
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triple h's promos started the slow decline of the death of the buisiness
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Shane Douglas comes across as more self-important than Triple "DX was more influential than the nwo" H
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oatgan posted:Shane Douglas comes across as more self-important than Triple "DX was more influential than the nwo" H Except that Shane Douglas did one of the best promos of all time
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Smoking Crow posted:Except that Shane Douglas did one of the best promos of all time And he spent the rest of his career impotently trying to recreate it
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What actually happened in that shoot fight between Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar in South Dakota?
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Smoking Crow posted:What actually happened in that shoot fight between Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar in South Dakota? The closest to the truth seems to be it was extremely even and Angle may have had a slight advantage which was extremely impressive given the size difference and fact Angle had been out of competition longer.
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What's the general consensus on Rich Brennan? I find nothing online suggesting that fans either love him, or hate him. I'm surprised I haven't heard more poo poo-talking about the guy. He's genuinely the worst announcer I've seen at the WWE. I pretty consistently watch Main Event (because it airs on TV here directly before NXT) and for weeks and weeks it's been filled with nothing but King, JBL or the non-injured Uso having blatant (usually JBL) or subtle (usually King) jabs at Brennan's horrible performance on commentary. For me, he really stands out as very jarring... awkward pauses suggesting he's forgotten the name of the next PPV he should be plugging while talking about said PPV, forgetting to say anything or call the action for extended periods during matches, being asked direct questions from his co-announcers and simply sitting in silence and not responding...
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That could be Vince yelling in his ear to call the match, don't the call the match, where's my ketchup steak mother fucker.
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I dunno, I never found him to be terrible in NXT. Sometimes I even like his calls, whenever Saxton/Graves aren't emulating JBL and diverting him from the wrestling because apparently that's how you commentate in WWE.
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oatgan posted:Shane Douglas comes across as more self-important than Triple "DX was more influential than the nwo" H Ehh, he was severely mincing his words because he had to be political, but his point wasn't entirely wrong: nWo wins in terms of immediate impact on the business, but DX had more longevity. nWo's only good runs were when it was just Hogan/Nash/Hall, and otherwise was watered down over a much too long run that made the whole company boring. DX had multiple successful runs with multiple successful lineups, brought back at mostly the right times (excluding some of the later versions with just HBK/HHH), and mostly stuck to a small core membership. Alain Post posted:Where does Justin Credible fit in here He's not just the coolest, and he's not just the best.
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I would go so far as to say Justin was pretty good as a weasily little shithead who kept pulling out wins since he had Chastity and Jason and Nicole Bass to distract people. Putting him anywhere higher than that was ridiculous, but still.
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I really have no strong opinion of Rich Brennan other than "it's developmental for announcers too"  He's harmless enough E: The only real gaffe that sticks in my head is the ending of the first Owens/Zayn match, where nobody on the desk realized that it was a TKO and were acting like it was a DQ loss for Owens before the ref handed him the belt.
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Developmental for announcers? I don't know... I mean, the guy is 42 years old. When did Cole start? Brennan's apparently a huge childhood fan of wrestling and it took him 20+ years to get into the business and he can't even master the names of the moves the wrestlers bust out. I just can't believe that he's the best they could find at this point. Don't get me wrong, I never really noticed Brennan a whole ton on NXT... and that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned. Maybe Vince or Dunn or whoever else is yelling in his ear during Main Event/Superstars truly is the difference. If so, I've got a new-found respect for Cole for being able to keep it together, sounding somewhat natural and keeping the show on the rails.
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