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Doctor Borris
May 29, 2014

Sometimes Serious.
Sometimes Satirical.
Never Ever Sarcastic.
Ever.

Crowsbeak posted:

What is a nigmo, seriously?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct4cAvUkDyg

Also the squatting of BFG is hilarious being that their releasing a BFG video game finally.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/06/age-of-sigmar-rumors.html

Waaghkins: orcs, goblins and are the servants of the old gods and live in a strict caste system, orcs are the manual laborers. There is a new race called nigmos: a tall and slender priest caste. Waaghkins travel the undersea, a system of flooded caverns that connects the whole world, on longboats and do the dirty work for the Exoatl. There is an artwork of the three different kinds of greenskins (no squigs and snotlings mentioned): an ork in very strange armour, very front heavy, textured like a symmetric turtle shell, he wields is an axe with multiple disc shape blades, goblin looked like a viking but has a futuristic looking handgun, the third was taller than a ork, female, slender - probably a nigmo. But in the photos of actual miniatures only show the old orc style. There is a subfaction of waaghkins that changed allegiance from the old gods to grimgor incarnate and are much more ferocious than their cousins.

Homeless Rumors Guy posted:

A lot of people have said some bad things about Age of Sigmar here on Dakka Dakka, so me and my friend, who works at Games Workshop, decided to show a few of the "holier then thou" folks just how wrong they were. We got some of our models together and posted some emails on Myspace to get folks interested and we did some demo games at the local store. I think the results will change your mind.

GAME 1
This one was against this smug asshat, who played with the Screaming Bell and a demon who messes with Fate. He tried to argue that because he could set dice he would auto win and was saying it was in the rules, well he obviously was just trying to ruin fun so we asked him to leave. We adjusted the rules to say that didn't work anymore, obviously an oversight.

GAME 2
This game was against a guy who turned out to be a lot worse of a person then I thought. The guy brought a bunch of Seraphon (and hadn't read the lore he kept calling them Lizardmen!) and they were led by a Slaan against my Age of Sigmar Stormcast Eternals. First he tried to deploy all his models so we had to tell him he could only use 50 wounds, and he tried to say since there were prizes for our mini tourney and the wound limit wasn't said beforehand that wasn't fair. Luckily he relented but it really worried me he was showing such unsportsmanlike behavior. But then things got ugly because it turns out he had a kid and brought his box of dinosaur models, and he tried to summon all of them first turn arguing that that was in the rules and that bases didn't matter anyway. Well me and my friend had to tell him that was enough and if he brought that attitude he could play somewhere else. I think everyone appreciated a strong stand against rule benders like that.

GAME 3
This game I would say was finally against a serious player. It did kind of suck, because I think he is an ex tournament player because after he heard about the 50 wound limit he played with nothing but Bloodthirsters led by Nagash (we had decided summoning was limited to 10 wounds a cast, because thats what the rules imply even if they don't say it). Obviously his army wasn't super playtested and is on the way out because it tore the Stormcast Eternals, chosen of Sigmar off the table. Its a shame someone would abuse such a good rules set with such cornercase models but I guess some people just have to play to win. After this game me and my best friend re-ruled the tournament rules so only more recent models could be used with 10 wounds from older models.

GAME 4
Finally a good game. It was myself with Stormcast Eternals (I got 3 starter sets) vs my buddy from GW who played the filthy warriors of Khorne, god of Blood and Murder! It was a great game, with both our armies clashing in an epic brawl in the center with hammers, lightning, and blood filling the skies! The rules really hummed here, it was really easy to play and figure out how the interactions worked! During the game I got to use my Wulfrick and he has this amazing rule. My GW Buddy, who was in the service, thought I couldn't get under his skin, but I said "Your mother sucks cocks in hell!" and it got him! He had this big smirk on his face and it went away and he gave me the rerolls. He didn't know I knew about his mother getting hit by a car the day before he left for his second tour of service so the taunt really worked and he couldn't resist reacting!. The game overall was super sweet and played fast, only lasting about 3 hours. I owned my GWs buddy pretty hard too, he was getting beaten so bad he barely smiled the rest of the night.

Overall Age of Sigmar is awesome. The tournament was great and a lot of people said they would probably put in a pre-order but didn't have the money right now. I think it will revive the Fantasy groups around my area, and I got to take home a cool trophy. The biggest downside was the games took so long my car wouldn't start, and when I opened the hood I had been in the store so long a oppossum had taken up residence. I ended up having to chase it off with my figures case, those things are really mean and they bite. Even worse my GW buddies phone must have been dead because he didn't answer any of my calls.

Doctor Borris fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Jul 10, 2015

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Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Direwolf posted:

Hey guys! So I've recently moved and unpacked my Lizardmen, I'm mostly a 40k player but it's been about 6 months since I last checked in on how WHFB is doing and I wanted to see-

uh

:stonk:

uh

*hugs u*

Paranoid Dude
Jul 6, 2014

Direwolf posted:

Hey guys! So I've recently moved and unpacked my Lizardmen, I'm mostly a 40k player but it's been about 6 months since I last checked in on how WHFB is doing and I wanted to see-

uh

:stonk:

uh

Run and do not look behind you. It can not attack you if you do not see it.

Doctor Borris
May 29, 2014

Sometimes Serious.
Sometimes Satirical.
Never Ever Sarcastic.
Ever.

via stephen taylor in the comment section of Faeit 212 (Homeless Rumors Guy?) posted:



Just thought you guys would like this info.
I am currently at forge world open day in nottingham. And have been speaking to the reps about age of Sigmar. A lot of my fears have been laid to rest.

BIG NEWS: There is not going to be a big rule book. However, there is already in the worls a set of rules for competetive and tournament play.

Points dont matter so much, because everything will be based on scenarios. There will be - his words - literally hundreds. You will never need to play the same scenario twice.

Added to this there are dozens of campaigns in the works, all of which will expand on the rules and warscrolls available.

Additionally, the 'silly' special rules already seen in the warscroll releases have been done as a homage to older characters and units. These are not due to continue going forward.

So - no BRB, but there will be rules for competition. Oh, and list building is now avcomplished througj working out the sinergy between wars rolls. As you dont have to pay for equiptment anymore, and optimizing is therefore out the window, getting units to work more efficiently is all accomplished through which warscrolls you choose and how they can make the units around them better.

Man thank goodness GW has promised to stop lying to me and stealing my money. Sure Age of Sigmar was released with the rules they made and the book they made, but this time they'll make something even more different and even more betterer.

Also, god Damnit Serious Gaylord how far do your puppet strings reach?

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

ijyt posted:

Tau are 6th, we're in 7th.

Oh, for some reason I remember it being really recent

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Direwolf posted:

Hey guys! So I've recently moved and unpacked my Lizardmen, I'm mostly a 40k player but it's been about 6 months since I last checked in on how WHFB is doing and I wanted to see-

uh

:stonk:

uh

You came here just in time to sell your 40k army before the mass panic starts.

Also, new Kings of War launches today (sign into Mantic's newsletter for the free rules PDF) and they're making Lizardman-equivalent tournament-legal list for WHFB refugees.

yes this is all true

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jul 10, 2015

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
I can no longer tell which posts are real and which are parodies unless they include the words "Possums are mean and they bite".

Doctor Borris
May 29, 2014

Sometimes Serious.
Sometimes Satirical.
Never Ever Sarcastic.
Ever.

spectralent posted:

I can no longer tell which posts are real and which are parodies unless they include the words "Possums are mean and they bite".

Its a good thing I didn't just add that at the end and quote it from somewhere else.

...

dun dun dun!

But seriously this statement is exactly how I feel about the entire Age of Sigmor. I just.. I don't even... what... is...

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Doctor Borris posted:

Its a good thing I didn't just add that at the end and quote it from somewhere else.

...

dun dun dun!

But seriously this statement is exactly how I feel about the entire Age of Sigmor. I just.. I don't even... what... is...

I mean okay, there were a few more clues than that, but it took me like 1/2 to 3/4 of the post before I was sure it was a parody and not just some guy chugging kool-aid like he'd been trapped on a desert island without water for a week. Particularly that whole "Clearly the game is meant to be played like this" thing is done wholly unironically by way too many people.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

boom boom boom posted:

Oh, for some reason I remember it being really recent

Thats because it was really recent

Doctor Borris
May 29, 2014

Sometimes Serious.
Sometimes Satirical.
Never Ever Sarcastic.
Ever.

Moola posted:

Thats because it was really recent

If the Tau Codex were shredded and made to be excellent nesting material for a newborn possum, it would be nearing the end of its life. So I say if the entire life a one of the noblest of beasts isn't enough for a codex, perhaps we need to re-evaluate our measure of time.

Direwolf
Aug 16, 2004
Fwar

Doctor Borris posted:

Its a good thing I didn't just add that at the end and quote it from somewhere else.

...

dun dun dun!

But seriously this statement is exactly how I feel about the entire Age of Sigmor. I just.. I don't even... what... is...

They killed Slaanesh? My lizards are space angel lizards who get summoned from the not-Warp? Empire gets literal Space Marines?

Combat/stats looks like Flames of War with no points just...just friendship.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Direwolf posted:

They killed Slaanesh? My lizards are space angel lizards who get summoned from the not-Warp? Empire gets literal Space Marines?

Combat/stats looks like Flames of War with no points just...just friendship.

One reviewer described all combat in the game as 'The Smooshing' where they get into the middle and just 3+ 4+ 3+ 4+ for two hours.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

Direwolf posted:

Hey guys! So I've recently moved and unpacked my Lizardmen, I'm mostly a 40k player but it's been about 6 months since I last checked in on how WHFB is doing and I wanted to see-

uh

:stonk:

uh

Man, I told you in the 40k thread not to look.

You looked. :smith:

Direwolf
Aug 16, 2004
Fwar

Safety Factor posted:

Man, I told you in the 40k thread not to look.

You looked. :smith:

You did. You did. Hope scrunts eternal.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


The way I feel about me and my friend quitting warhammer shortly after buying Island of Blood is how I think people who didn't go into work at the WTC on 9/11 must have felt.

Post 9-11 User
Apr 14, 2010
40k hasn't been Squatted yet, it sure does have miniatures that Power Squat to no end (the base for the minis is now larger to accommodate HIGH DEFINITION POWER SQUATTING). It sure has heck become such a convoluted pile of rulebooks, DLC, and mini-rulebooks and expansion that I don't know where to begin. Oh, and options for the squads you buy don't have all of the spare bits/parts for the upgrades they are allowed to take, I actually cut a piece off another one of my recently finished minis just to equip the other squad I'm painting (I've had the minis in my closet for years, finally have time and a painting table to do them up).

Shitty Wizard
Jan 2, 2013

ASK ME WHY
I VOTED
FOR TRUMP
As someone who's Warhammer experiences has mostly been the PC games (Warhammer Age of Reckoning, Dawn of War series, Bloodbowls, and slight optimism for Eternal Crusade) , has it caused a panic of people selling their 40k stuff and stopping all future 40k purchases yet in fear of an Age of Sigmar style replacement yet?

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



lovely Wizard posted:

As someone who's Warhammer experiences has mostly been the PC games (Warhammer Age of Reckoning, Dawn of War series, Bloodbowls, and slight optimism for Eternal Crusade) , has it caused a panic of people selling their 40k stuff and stopping all future 40k purchases yet in fear of an Age of Sigmar style replacement yet?

someone link the bingo board

Phyresis
Nov 2, 2004

I can't sleep, I hope I stay awake

Cause I've been running, running, running all day

Long nights, no peace

I feel like everybody's eyes on me

lovely Wizard posted:

As someone who's Warhammer experiences has mostly been the PC games (Warhammer Age of Reckoning, Dawn of War series, Bloodbowls, and slight optimism for Eternal Crusade) , has it caused a panic of people selling their 40k stuff and stopping all future 40k purchases yet in fear of an Age of Sigmar style replacement yet?

i carnifexed your mom last night

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid

Broken Loose posted:

Calm down, dude. nothing's gonna get Squatted. Games Workshop is a Specialist Games company, not some sort of Genestealer Cult intent on driving their stock prices into an Epic Armageddon. You're just a jerk with a Warhammer Fantasy that the company's Mighty Empires are going to send Black Templars out to take your books and precious toys away. There's no Inquisitor waiting to steal your Mighty Warriors. I think if they seriously did that, they'd have a Blood Bowl on their hands from an entire Dreadfleet of rightfully indignant fans. I'm a Man O'War of my word, and I will be first in line to Warmaster our Battlefleet Gothic to take back our game from the company in a War of the Ring one can only describe as Epic. Necromunda Mordheim Gorkamorka Aeronautica Imperialis Titan Legions Pariahs.

Let me save this for the future

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

spectralent posted:

I can no longer tell which posts are real and which are parodies unless they include the words "Possums are mean and they bite".

That's a parody post, because Possums are lovely and don't bite.

GOD drat IT MOOLA I BLAME YOU FOR THIS

:siren:POSSUMS:siren:




:siren:OPOSSUMS:siren:




:siren: SUMMARY :siren:


EDIT: Warhammer: Even Opossums are better than Age of Sigmar

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

hooman posted:

That's a parody post, because Possums are lovely and don't bite.

GOD drat IT MOOLA I BLAME YOU FOR THIS

:siren:POSSUMS:siren:


Holy crap these are really cute.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Night10194 posted:

Holy crap these are really cute.

Yes, and they live in trees in your back yard, and eat fruits and are super adorable.

We had one that used to live in this semi dead stick tree and I would take apple slices out to it, and it would climb down the branch and use it's little fingers to take it from me. :kimchi:

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch

hooman posted:

Yes, and they live in trees in your back yard, and eat fruits and are super adorable.

We had one that used to live in this semi dead stick tree and I would take apple slices out to it, and it would climb down the branch and use it's little fingers to take it from me. :kimchi:

Sounds like Ring Tailed Cats:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfbduZQbtPo

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

All these adorable animals really help ease the pain of Age of Sigmar.

Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

PROGRAM
A > - - -
LR > > - -
LL > - - -

Business Gorillas posted:

someone link the bingo board

Leperflesh posted:



there I fixed it

Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

PROGRAM
A > - - -
LR > > - -
LL > - - -

lovely Wizard posted:

As someone who's Warhammer experiences has mostly been the PC games (Warhammer Age of Reckoning, Dawn of War series, Bloodbowls, and slight optimism for Eternal Crusade) , has it caused a panic of people selling their 40k stuff and stopping all future 40k purchases yet in fear of an Age of Sigmar style replacement yet?

To answer your question, absolutely not. The 40k fanbase is so entrenched in doubling down on Stockholm Syndrome that they're willing to move the goalposts anywhere to avoid logic. A few ex-Fantasy players even dropped by to offer kind words and a gallon of awareness, "I remember saying the exact same things months ago that you're saying now, get out while you still can," but let's face it, if they're okay with how terribly they've been treated thus far (and willfully ignorant to the most glaring faults in front of them) there's really nothing they won't tolerate at this point.

There is seriously a dude going, "U mad?" repeatedly to people exercising reason over there. My "nothing's gonna get Squatted" post was a direct response to that sentiment.

Worse, this site has handled it more reasonably than almost any other community. The depth of the denialism among the greater GW fanbase is so immense that they should call it Nottingham Syndrome.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Broken Loose posted:

To answer your question, absolutely not. The 40k fanbase is so entrenched in doubling down on Stockholm Syndrome that they're willing to move the goalposts anywhere to avoid logic. A few ex-Fantasy players even dropped by to offer kind words and a gallon of awareness, "I remember saying the exact same things months ago that you're saying now, get out while you still can," but let's face it, if they're okay with how terribly they've been treated thus far (and willfully ignorant to the most glaring faults in front of them) there's really nothing they won't tolerate at this point.

There is seriously a dude going, "U mad?" repeatedly to people exercising reason over there. My "nothing's gonna get Squatted" post was a direct response to that sentiment.

Worse, this site has handled it more reasonably than almost any other community. The depth of the denialism among the greater GW fanbase is so immense that they should call it Nottingham Syndrome.

I mean, it's terrible, but it's also sort of hard to blame them. I certainly didn't believe anything like this was coming to Fantasy and a lot of GW fans have thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours sunk into this stuff. It can't be easy to believe it might all go away for nothing.

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014



Still my favorite possum picture of all times. He knows he won, so they can do whatever they want with him now!

FrostyPox
Feb 8, 2012

I watched a video where two players used the armies from the starter box, and I will admit it looked like it was a bit more balanced, there was a little more synergy between models in an army (which isn't saying much; I guess what I should say is some small modicum of synergy existed), and there weren't dumb "ride an invisible horse" rules.

I'd say IF this game had points values, and IF bases mattered and measurements were made from them, and IF the existing armies were given reasonable Warscrolls, then the game might be something approaching acceptable. Not a good game, but not a complete disgusting terrible trainwreck.


Why, if the above were true and the game was released as a third (well, fourth, but the Hobbit doesn't really count anymore, does it?) core game, where it's, like, Warhammer is to Age of Sigmar as X-Men is to.... Ultimate X-Men, or X-Men 2099 or some other alternate timeline X-Men, the game not only might not be nearly universally reviled, but maybe even a modest success.


But they didn't do any of those vaguely intelligent things, so it's complete poo poo and always will be complete poo poo.

Not a viking
Aug 2, 2008

Feels like I just got laid
Where are the rumours about the new "balancing" scenarios?

FrostyPox
Feb 8, 2012

Yeah it's BOLS but it does have pictures of the scenarios:

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/07/age-of-sigmar-the-missions.html

That Old Tree
Jun 24, 2012

nah


I've dabbled in 40k a few times over the years, never got invested in Fantasy even though I liked the lore and models, and I love GW's bumbling implosions, but I still sometimes struggle to believe this imaginary horse poo poo is real. I can't really fault anyone who's spent hundreds or thousands of dollars and hours a month or two of "nah, even GW isn't as stupid as this looks; soon the comet will arrive to take us to heaven."

No Pun Intended
Jul 23, 2007

DWARVEN SEX OFFENDER

ASK ME ABOUT TONING MY FINE ASS DWARVEN BOOTY BY RUNNING FROM THE COPS OUTSIDE THAT ELF KINDERGARTEN

BEHOLD THE DONG OF THE DWARVES! THE DWARVEN DONG IS COMING!
Games Workshop are obviously going to take the concept of the gentlemen's agreement to the next logical conclusion and have you and your opponent sit down and agree on what not to take to the battle; and why are we even fighting? Surely this conflict could be resolved in a less violent fashion?

Warhammer : The game of fantasy diplomacy

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you

quote:

Points dont matter so much, because everything will be based on scenarios. There will be - his words - literally hundreds. You will never need to play the same scenario twice.

eagerly anticipating reams of D66 tables

victrix
Oct 30, 2007


There is one thing I do like about the concept of warscrolls as a whole for WHF: It opens the door to playing wildly unique battle forces made up of any of the dozens and dozens and dozens of units GW has released over the years. Every game has the potential to be something new and interesting.

Sadly that sentence is all wrapped up in 'ifs' and 'maybes' and 'could bes', not actualities, but you know, I like the idea :shobon:

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Direwolf posted:

Hey guys! So I've recently moved and unpacked my Lizardmen, I'm mostly a 40k player but it's been about 6 months since I last checked in on how WHFB is doing and I wanted to see-

uh

:stonk:

uh

I know how you feel. I was just looking to get back into W:FB after having a great time painting some 40k. And they... they broke it...

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Broken Loose posted:

To answer your question, absolutely not. The 40k fanbase is so entrenched in doubling down on Stockholm Syndrome that they're willing to move the goalposts anywhere to avoid logic. A few ex-Fantasy players even dropped by to offer kind words and a gallon of awareness, "I remember saying the exact same things months ago that you're saying now, get out while you still can," but let's face it, if they're okay with how terribly they've been treated thus far (and willfully ignorant to the most glaring faults in front of them) there's really nothing they won't tolerate at this point.

There is seriously a dude going, "U mad?" repeatedly to people exercising reason over there. My "nothing's gonna get Squatted" post was a direct response to that sentiment.

Worse, this site has handled it more reasonably than almost any other community. The depth of the denialism among the greater GW fanbase is so immense that they should call it Nottingham Syndrome.

Honestly, at this point, I don't understand why 40k players aren't all running to 30k as fast as they can.

It's not like it's that much more expensive anymore.

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Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


boom boom boom posted:

Honestly, at this point, I don't understand why 40k players aren't all running to 30k as fast as they can.

It's not like it's that much more expensive anymore.

It's quite a bit more expensive to buy from Forgeworld in Australia. That said, my friends and I are only really interested in playing Kill Team since it requires a much lower buy-in and is a bit more suitable for narrative campaigns.

e: I might still invest in some fantasy minis just for Coreheim, since Mordheim used to be cool and radical back in the day.

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