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C2C - 2.0 posted:I wasn't implying that, really. I was just providing a counter-point to the idea that a college degree is absolutely necessary to become a high-wage earner. On balance, it's a more likely scenario, yeah. Probably no expectation to get out of work at a reasonable hour to still do errands.
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computer parts posted:From what some goons here have said they require like double the hours of a traditional job (60 hour weeks are not only common, but expected). While true, they're not the only industry that employs this tactic (if my IT friends are to be believed). Also, much of it is shift work that actually averages out appropriately over the course of a year. Perfect example: I've just accepted a position in New Orleans doing ship traffic control (I have previous experience). The schedule is 7 days on/7 days off with work being 12 hours a day. This averages out to near the same amount of hours as someone working a traditional 5-days/week & 8 hours/day. Another difference is these industries usually don't engage too much in yearly salary; they're much more saturated with hourly or daily pay positions. I'm neither arguing for or against one particular work lifestyle versus the other. I'm just pointing out that currently there are industries that support non-degreed workers with high pay. Whether that remains or not is another question.
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Nonsense posted:Probably no expectation to get out of work at a reasonable hour to still do errands. See my above post. Working day shifts makes it a lot more untenable, but usually folks are not tied to a single shift position endlessly unless they request it. Most people tend to move through days, nights, & swings.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-jeb-bush-longer-hours-comment-react-119948.html?cmpid=sf#ixzz3fV5WlYzO Sanderssupports Jeb Bush's comments about working more hours! And miraculously doesn't actually in reality support Jeb Bush's comments! Journalism is great.
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Nonsense posted:http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/bernie-sanders-jeb-bush-longer-hours-comment-react-119948.html?cmpid=sf#ixzz3fV5WlYzO Didnt politco publish a thing about Bernie recently being like Bernie has a secretttt 
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Didnt politco publish a thing about Bernie recently being like Bernie has a secretttt Yes and the secret was he had a kid out of wedlock and doesn't really like talking about it.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Yes and the secret was he had a kid out of wedlock and doesn't really like talking about it. I wonder why. Luckily I think the same generation of people who voted B-Rock into office care less and less about that kind of stuff.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:I wonder why. Luckily I think the same generation of people who voted B-Rock into office care less and less about that kind of stuff. Yeah, I'm pretty sure everyone has at least one kid out of wedlock these days.
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JT Jag posted:If Trump is kept out of the debates, it wouldn't surprise me if he bought airtime on one of the other major networks to host his own yooj, luxurious debate, with him and every other person who didn't make the cut for Fox News. Two words: Gilded podiums.
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Got an email from Rand talking about how he is introducing a bill that will cut federal funds for 'sanctuary cities'. Federal laws must be honored!
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Vhen I mentioned wedlock, he put me in a headlock! Vhen I asked to be his wife he stabbed me with a kitchen knife!
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Man, if only there were a jobs program to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and pay people a living wage doing it!
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McDowell posted:Got an email from Rand talking about how he is introducing a bill that will cut federal funds for 'sanctuary cities'. Federal laws must be honored! Uh, it's "state's rights" not "city's right". Checkmate, municipists! 
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pwnyXpress posted:Man, if only there were a jobs program to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and pay people a living wage doing it! That sounds an awful lot like Communism, comrade.
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Daniel Bryan posted:OOH OOH OOH! This is almost certainly an illusion but one of the Twitter fav icons down there looks like he's doing a Nazi salute.
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It's like the old "Yes, We Can," but with an extra dose of honesty. "It Can Be Done" (with billionaire megabux) and gently caress y'all, there's no need for you.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:He should have had his slogan be "Scott Walker: probably doable" "Scott Walker: Plausibly Feasible"
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skaboomizzy posted:"Scott Walker: Plausibly Feasible" "It could happen. Really."
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Scott Walker: Hey! It could happen! McWooooooooooooorld!
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Scott Walker: "I'd like the Koch's to buy the world"
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A Winner is Jew posted:Scott Walker: "I'd like the Koch's to buy the world"  Scott Walker managed to make the most boring ARG in the history of the world.
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If Bernie's backing Bush's comments about working more hours because it was talking about the need for full-time hours and benefits rather than everyone getting jerked around with part-time such that they need multiple jobs, good. I thought it was pretty unfair for everyone to interpret that comment as "Jeb's so out of touch, he wants us to work 100-hour weeks in the salt-mines", it's the same poo poo we complain about when Republicans take half a soundbite and explain what Obama really meant. I mean, he's a Bush, he probably thinks we should all be working 100 hours in the salt mines, but we don't need to stretch what he said to fit.
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Dolash posted:If Bernie's backing Bush's comments about working more hours because it was talking about the need for full-time hours and benefits rather than everyone getting jerked around with part-time such that they need multiple jobs, good. I thought it was pretty unfair for everyone to interpret that comment as "Jeb's so out of touch, he wants us to work 100-hour weeks in the salt-mines", it's the same poo poo we complain about when Republicans take half a soundbite and explain what Obama really meant. I had more of a problem with the fact he said we needed to be more productive to boost the economy, disregarding the previously mentioned disconnect between increased worker productivity and compensation.
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Dolash posted:If Bernie's backing Bush's comments about working more hours because it was talking about the need for full-time hours and benefits rather than everyone getting jerked around with part-time such that they need multiple jobs, good. I thought it was pretty unfair for everyone to interpret that comment as "Jeb's so out of touch, he wants us to work 100-hour weeks in the salt-mines", it's the same poo poo we complain about when Republicans take half a soundbite and explain what Obama really meant. If Jeb! just wanted fewer part-time jobs it's a lot easier to say that than just wish that the American 46.7 hour average work week was longer. Perhaps Jeb! should think about what he says when running for President instead of taking 2 to 4 attempts to finally say what he means every time, following clamor from the unwashed masses.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Scott Walker: "I'd like the Koch's to buy the world" I. . . I . . . I. . . 
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Didnt politco publish a thing about Bernie recently being like Bernie has a secretttt Man that was a terrible article. They kept on implying there was some big scandal about his son, but in the end they had literally nothing on his son and the entire story was both his ex-wife and son refused their calls.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Man that was a terrible article. They kept on implying there was some big scandal about his son, but in the end they had literally nothing on his son and the entire story was both his ex-wife and son refused their calls. A divorcee with a bastard child? Welp, wrap it. He's been Bern Noticed.
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I thought him and his ex wife had a decent relationship and he has a relationship with his son, he just doesn't really talk about it.
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Speaking of Walker, POLITICO reports that Walker's going to sign a 20-week abortion ban, which according to POLITICO is great news for Scott Walker, yaaaaay
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:A divorcee with a bastard child? Welp, wrap it. He's been Bern Noticed. Did they actually say his son was born out of wedlock? It seemed they couldn't even say that for sure, they just kind of implied it, but maybe I missed it. Hollismason posted:I thought him and his ex wife had a decent relationship and he has a relationship with his son, he just doesn't really talk about it. That was the entire article yeah.
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Hollismason posted:I thought him and his ex wife had a decent relationship and he has a relationship with his son, he just doesn't really talk about it. Pretty sure this is the case. In the rolling stone article he reached over and took a bite of his son's eggplant parm sandwich 
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:A divorcee with a bastard child? Welp, wrap it. He's been Bern Noticed. I really wish he would turn that around as sort of a mic drop during debates and stuff. "And furthermore, perhaps banks shouldn't be able to legally take your first born as payment. You've been Berned!"
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