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Tindahbawx posted:Well ... you know you're bad at personal combat when you lose a swordfight to a blind eunuch: The blind guy isn't a lawyer, is he?
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Aschlafly posted:Hell, it'd be a nice casus belli, too. One of my favourite CKII moments was when I (the chief of Estonia) got a notification that my neighbors to the south had sieged my capital and the chief took my wife as his concubine; I then proceeded to wreck his loving poo poo. But yeah, to put my two cents in, rape is already represented in CKII to the extent that it ought to be. The only reasonable expansion I can imagine would be if Christian rulers could force-marry anyone in their prison, like they already can with anyone in their court. And diplomatically, it should be an unsalvageable opinion malus with the abducted's family, and probably a CB to boot.
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Jul 10, 2015 14:27
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Instead of that i want a suitor mechanic where you designate the noblewoman you want to betroth and compete with other noble families for her hand complete with events and intrigue. Would stop the aimless, turn 16 = immediately get married, too.
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Jul 10, 2015 14:48
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The AI should definitely be a lot more aggressive about arranging betrothals--in that period many children of notable noble houses were betrothed literally from the cradle, or not very long after. (Actually marriages were often completed when the people involved were 12 or 13 or even younger, but that's not represented in the game for obvious and understandable reasons.) I'm not sure if that's unworkable for resource reasons, though.
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Jul 10, 2015 15:59
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I am continually amazed at the unrealistic ahistorical poo poo people mod into their games under the guise of 'historical realism and accuracy.' Not just CK2, all games. Just admit you want to wank to some rape fantasy my god. AFAIK noble prisoners were treated really well aside from the very occasional hot poker murder.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:07
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Moridin920 posted:I am continually amazed at the unrealistic ahistorical poo poo people mod into their games under the guise of 'historical realism and accuracy.' Not just CK2, all games. Yeah, I mean in British history for example, the only king to actually murder a prisoner himself is still considered one of the worst monarchs we've ever had, partly for that reason.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:11
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Eric the Mauve posted:The AI should definitely be a lot more aggressive about arranging betrothals--in that period many children of notable noble houses were betrothed literally from the cradle, or not very long after. (Actually marriages were often completed when the people involved were 12 or 13 or even younger, but that's not represented in the game for obvious and understandable reasons.) I think it may be unworkable for gameplay reasons. If the AI is too aggressive about snapping up choice proposals then it's going to be very difficult for a player to compete. Similar problem to Advisers in EU3 before they implemented that whole culture/buying advisers on demand thing.
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Incidentally some rear end in a top hat with the Intrigue focus evidently got my liege's daughter to accuse me of rape and get me thrown in prison 
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Back To 99 posted:Instead of that i want a suitor mechanic where you designate the noblewoman you want to betroth and compete with other noble families for her hand complete with events and intrigue. Would stop the aimless, turn 16 = immediately get married, too. It would certainly make playing as a kid more interesting. I think it would just be neat in general to have more "story arc" event chains. The ones already in the game (pilgrimmage, hunting dog, necronomicon, Joan of Arc, satan spawn, etc.) are all great, and it would add a lot of flavour to have more, especially if they branch depending on multiple characters' decisions. So something like two suitors competing for a woman would be a cool event chain; maybe it could trigger if a girl is betrothed but has a different boy as a lover? Do kids even get lovers? If not, hell, the first event in the "suitor" chain could give her one.
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Jul 10, 2015 16:17
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Has anyone here tried out the lord of the rings mod here : http://www.moddb.com/mods/ck2-middle-earth-project How different is it from the regular game? Can you play like one or two hobbits, or an 8 man fellowship?
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Jul 10, 2015 16:30
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DStecks posted:It would certainly make playing as a kid more interesting. Speaking of which, what are the "big" random event chains? I had the Satan spawn, Joan of Arc and Robin Hood ones (in many different playthroughs of course) and I'm wondering if there's more hidden behind a MTTH wall.
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TorakFade posted:Speaking of which, what are the "big" random event chains? I had the Satan spawn, Joan of Arc and Robin Hood ones (in many different playthroughs of course) and I'm wondering if there's more hidden behind a MTTH wall. Godslayer. 
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TorakFade posted:Speaking of which, what are the "big" random event chains? I had the Satan spawn, Joan of Arc and Robin Hood ones (in many different playthroughs of course) and I'm wondering if there's more hidden behind a MTTH wall. There's a couple of fun Byzantine ones involving chariot racing and pirates if you have Legacy of Rome.
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e: wow beaten with the exact same post
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Jul 10, 2015 17:45
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The Republic has a Romeo and Juliet event chain. Although in mine, the woman was 29 and the guy was 15.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The blind guy isn't a lawyer, is he? Daredevil is pretty obviously not a eunuch.
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Jul 10, 2015 18:03
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LolitaSama posted:Has anyone here tried out the lord of the rings mod here : http://www.moddb.com/mods/ck2-middle-earth-project The 'questline' is controlled by events-it's perfectly possible to derail things, either as an appropriate character(Aragorn suddenly decides to take it himself, for instance) or an outsider paying for a hunt for the Ring and claiming it. Of course, if Sauron gets it, everyone's hosed, and everyone will try to band together as best they can to deal with it. Many places are 'wilderness' and need reclaiming via a colonisation chain. Pay money, get events, hope you get lucky. Many races are playable, but not everything's entirely working for everyone. Note that races can have absolutely massive combat effectiveness, but are also hamstrung by various modifiers. Orcs have terrible morale, for instance, or Dwarves and Elves and Trolls are insanely powerful but have awful troop recovery. There's lots of interesting things that are possible. I will note that it's been about a year since I've been able to play it, since it lost compatibility with 'Way of Life'. Bloodly fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 18:42
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I can't barely play it, it tends to crash pretty quickly. The aesthetic seems excellent, though. Can't say much about the gameplay.
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Jul 10, 2015 18:48
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Groogy posted:It will in a patch or two.... maybe Does executing a character who is imprisoned set their dynasty as rivals (and thus valid duel targets) to the executor? And does the AI actually execute people that often (I tend to not get captured, or let my people get caught)? If no on either account, I feel like it kind of should, at least in the early game. I know it gives a negative modifier, I just don't know if it sets them as rivals. The entire system of noble ransoming was kind of set up as a way of not only financing your realm at war, which it was effective at, but also for avoiding pissing off the swathes of kin and kith that a noble would have. Avoiding blood feuds between dynasties and their kith, basically, because that usually resulted in a whole lot of pointless death and poor warring. I find I never have enough duel targets, so I never really pick the war focus because the health bonus of hunting is so much better than the 1 or 2 duels I might get to take part in over one characters life. If you set it up so that executing a person sets all of their direct dynasty and friends as rivals to your own, I reckon you could get some veeery interesting results. It would definitely drive me to pick it more often. Another Person fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 19:03
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Legit question, was Crusader Kings named after a Scrooge McDuck comic?
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Jul 10, 2015 19:04
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Saith posted:Yeah, I mean in British history for example, the only king to actually murder a prisoner himself is still considered one of the worst monarchs we've ever had, partly for that reason. Henry IV?
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Jul 10, 2015 19:04
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in one generation's worth of marriage I managed to get my worthless Celtic family onto the thrones of Western, Middle and East Francia, Lombardy and the Byzantine Empire. ck2 yall
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It's not even necessary to mod in rape. There were the arranged marriages, with the husband/husband's father paying a bride price to the bride's father. The bride had no right to refuse to marry or refuse to have sex with her husband. That would make the medieval period a rape-a-thon by most current (Western) moral standards.
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Jul 10, 2015 20:14
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Let's stop the discussion on the rape mod. It appears to have been taken off the Steam Workshop and the Paradox forums, so someone clearly got word of this and shut it down.
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Jul 10, 2015 20:27
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Eric the Mauve posted:The AI should definitely be a lot more aggressive about arranging betrothals--in that period many children of notable noble houses were betrothed literally from the cradle, or not very long after. (Actually marriages were often completed when the people involved were 12 or 13 or even younger, but that's not represented in the game for obvious and understandable reasons.) Good news for horrible people: You can set the marriage age in defines.lua. 
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New Achievements for Horse Lords: Steppe by Steppe As a steppe horde, conquer the whole steppe region. "Never start a Land War in Asia" Start in Western Europe and completely conquer the region of Mongolia. Norse-East As a Norse character, become King of Mongolia. Pax Mongolica Build 3 fully upgraded silk road trade posts. Sword to Ploughshare Settle a steppe mercenary with more than 20 martial in your lands. Let's go out into the Field Defeat a sibling in a war using the rival casus belli. Nobody's Business but the Turks Conquer Constantinople as a Turkic steppe horde. One Arrow Alone can be Easily Broken but Many Arrows are Indestructible As a steppe horde, have a population of 150 000. Go West Young Mongol As a steppe horde, have an independent tributary King or Emperor in the British Isles Who Needs Vasco da Gama? Own all the silk route ports in india as a European merchant republic. Run With the Wolf Play as a character with Wolf's Blood.
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Ooh, they're finally making note of the Steppes bizarre obsession with being descended from wolves, which somehow managed to be a common theme of pretty much every major Turkic-Mongolian dynasties mythology since there were people to make note of such things. e: I imagine it will be limited to either a half dozen or so dynasties, or be something you get when you are sufficiently powerful and notable.
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Jul 10, 2015 23:38
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MONGOL WEREWOLVES
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What's with the whole werewolf thing lately? Is there something I don't know about from steppe nomad cultures/Mongols? Wouldn't surprise me since I know nothing about them. Plus, wouldn't that be a sort of Norse thing Myth-wise?
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A lot of steppe cultures have a wolf as their mythological ancestor, and various enemies of the hordes have described them as looking more like monsters than humans. edit: See this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_mythology#The_Grey_Wolf_legend Mr.Morgenstern fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Jul 11, 2015 |
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Jul 11, 2015 01:32
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Bel Monte posted:What's with the whole werewolf thing lately? Is there something I don't know about from steppe nomad cultures/Mongols? Wouldn't surprise me since I know nothing about them. Plus, wouldn't that be a sort of Norse thing Myth-wise? We did a reference to it in the latest dev diary quote:Oh! And I might actually have heard legends about certain altaic families behaving in odd ways lately… with hideous faces and beast-like behavior. And no I won't tell you the details except that it awesome. If you wanna know more you gonna need to wait until the 14th. Groogy fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Jul 11, 2015 |
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Jul 11, 2015 02:20
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Werewolves? There goes realism. The level of betrayal I felt when Paradox announced their new DLC tore something from me that I'll never be able to recover. They tore away my ability to respect anything, and they tore away my ability to feel human.
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Jul 11, 2015 02:56
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This is the Steppe Wolf we've always dreamed of
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Jul 11, 2015 03:02
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Hope the Rival CB can be modded into pagan cultures. Take my wife I loving dare you because now I WILL take your lands
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Strudel Man posted:-1 duration is used in code for non-expiring effects. So yeah if I click on it... it might game over me?
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Keeper Garrett posted:So yeah if I click on it... it might game over me?
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Keeper Garrett posted:So yeah if I click on it... it might game over me? Yes. I'm 100% certain that you will become a non-merchant republic upon changing capital to Paris, which means an instant game over.
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Schizotek posted:Ooh, they're finally making note of the Steppes bizarre obsession with being descended from wolves, which somehow managed to be a common theme of pretty much every major Turkic-Mongolian dynasties mythology since there were people to make note of such things. Haha, those crazy Mongols! No civilized people would make 'raised by wolves' a key part of their founding myth! 
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Yep! I tried it because I was already getting a little tired of that particular game. Sure enough after 2 days or so, game over. However I force closed CK2 and reloaded it, not only could I play, but it hadn't saved since I'd lost my 25 year old dynamo Prince Mayor to Pneumonia. Here's hoping he gets to the lemon tea this time.
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Just a heads up: it looks like Arumba (and others, I presume) have their review copies and have begun streaming Horse Lords. Check it if you want to see it in action.
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