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Going back to my earlier comments about Riddler it is, in fact, best to leave him alone in the cell with Pyg. He gets SO ANGRY about the lack of intelligence and conversation.
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CharlestonJew posted:Gotham might as well be a whole state at this point It is, sometimes. It's supposed to be New Jersey, except when they actually called it New Jersey.  DC cities are pastiche of various cities near each other. Metropolis is "bright shiny city of tomorrow", Keystone is "cornfed river industry or whatever the hell St Louis does" and so on. They use cities as story devices before stand-ins, if that makes any sense. Making the locations vague encourages the readers to draw from local cities, which is why Batman actually lives in Binghamton, NY  Gotham City is "Old city with many forgotten secrets and many many loving gargoyles I tells ya" Also yeah, it threw me what basically amounts to "Old Gotham" isn't set on "Founder's Island" but considering Wonder City was a brave new future, it makes sense they built over it after it (first) blew up. Mostly. Seems like a missed opportunity for the Joker to uber-guilt trip Batman at the scene of his death. Also make even more fun of his dead parents! Literally Kermit fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Jul 13, 2015 |
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Mogomra posted:People were saying that you could visit Crime Alley, but as far as I can tell, it's just there on the horizon out of reach. Like the Arkham Asylum in City. You do visit Crime Alley, in a way...
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Literally Kermit posted:Did they tear down Wonder Tower? Skip to 19:00 in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdq4oTf2rgU
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Jul 13, 2015 17:42
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Literally Kermit posted:Seems like a missed opportunity for the Joker to uber-guilt trip Batman at the scene of his death. Also make even more fun of his dead parents!
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Jul 13, 2015 18:13
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It's the funniest thing in the game, too.
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Jul 13, 2015 18:38
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"He's going to kill us like he killed the Joker!" "He's going to withhold our medication?!  "The writers need a raise, goddamn, haha.
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Jul 13, 2015 18:40
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"Bruce, this is your father. It's time we had a talk. You know, about the... dressing up."
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Jul 13, 2015 18:45
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Literally Kermit posted:It is, sometimes. It's supposed to be New Jersey, except when they actually called it New Jersey. Isn't the Earth in dc comics supposed to be bigger to accommodate all the extra cities?
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Question for you guys since google search isn't giving me answers:  Long story short, the map says that Founders Island is clear and I've gotten everything but the Riddles solved section (as well as the orphanage checkpoint) both say Im one trophy down/don't have all breakable objects. I can't find any Riddler's helpers (to be fair Ive just looked around Founders). Is this a bug or am I overlooking something?
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Jul 13, 2015 18:54
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The subway tunnel counts as founders island for trophies and breakables.
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Jul 13, 2015 19:03
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HERAK posted:Isn't the Earth in dc comics supposed to be bigger to accommodate all the extra cities? So it's the opposite of the US in "The Crew" (driving game) where it's just a "highlights only" map of the US? Haha.
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Jul 13, 2015 19:09
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HERAK posted:Isn't the Earth in dc comics supposed to be bigger to accommodate all the extra cities? Making real life cities complete non-existent can make writing real-life references problematic. The unofficial answer is probably "real cities exist when we need them to" and leave the disasters and explosions and mass murder and building collapses to the fantasy ones. Marvel primarily uses real life settings, so it doesn't have it as much, and even if they did they'd just tack on a new universe somewhere. Blew my mind when someone pointed out how the Joker slowly loses his Titan poisoning and gets healthier as his hold on Batman's mind grows.
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poptart_fairy posted:"He's going to kill us like he killed the Joker!" Holy poo poo I missed this 
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HERAK posted:Isn't the Earth in dc comics supposed to be bigger to accommodate all the extra cities? JLA/Avengers confirms this.
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Literally Kermit posted:DC cities are pastiche of various cities near each other. Metropolis is "bright shiny city of tomorrow", Keystone is "cornfed river industry or whatever the hell St Louis does" and so on. They use cities as story devices before stand-ins, if that makes any sense. Making the locations vague encourages the readers to draw from local cities, which is why Batman actually lives in Binghamton, NY Nah, Gotham isn't in a crippling financial depression.
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Irradiation posted:The subway tunnel counts as founders island for trophies and breakables. Awesome, didn't even consider that. Thanks!
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I'm about to buy the season pass but the website isn't letting me right now. I hope the challenge maps are decent because in the long run they are the only thing I really care about outside of this Batgirl dlc. Gotham city stories may be fun but I don't expect them to be any more indepth than Harley Quinn or Red Hood.
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Slade Wilson offends me. Greatly.
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While I appreciate them making Scarecrow more visually scary his TV rants weren't quite the right touch. You want to make him particularly spooky? Make it so that he somehow knows more about Batman than he knows himself. How much of the TV Scarecrow is real and how much is a hallucination? Or trippy poo poo like Arkham Asylum's Visitor Room
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Speedball posted:While I appreciate them making Scarecrow more visually scary his TV rants weren't quite the right touch. The problem with him as a villain is that his power is to make Batman the villain. Like, his whole schtick as a villain requires him to step back everytime he does something to let the story focus on Batman's inner demons. What they could have done is have Scarecrow work against Batman externally. Batman's untouchable, but his friends aren't. Subject Barbara and Gordon and Tim and everybody to their worst fears. Have them turn against Batman somehow. Basically what they did with the Arkham Knight, except not stupid. It even thematically ties in.
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are there any villains that would work for a 1vs1 predator segment? because that could be cool. make it so detective mode doesn't work for some reason, and have an AI behaving basically like a batman hunting the PC. Throw in some unexpected moves and it would be a fun fight, I'm surprised they've never done it.
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SHOTGUN REGULAR posted:are there any villains that would work for a 1vs1 predator segment? because that could be cool. make it so detective mode doesn't work for some reason, and have an AI behaving basically like a batman hunting the PC. Throw in some unexpected moves and it would be a fun fight, I'm surprised they've never done it. This is basically what the final boss in Origins amounts to.
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SHOTGUN REGULAR posted:are there any villains that would work for a 1vs1 predator segment? because that could be cool. make it so detective mode doesn't work for some reason, and have an AI behaving basically like a batman hunting the PC. Throw in some unexpected moves and it would be a fun fight, I'm surprised they've never done it. Mr. Freeze did that in City. The final fight in Origins and the DLC both acted pretty differently though.
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Mr. Freeze also disables Detective Mode on New Game +, I think. The one in Origins does so at the end, but that fight is kind of easy due to the way you can deal a ton of damage in just three hits.
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Medium Cool posted:I'm about to buy the season pass but the website isn't letting me right now. I hope the challenge maps are decent because in the long run they are the only thing I really care about outside of this Batgirl dlc. Gotham city stories may be fun but I don't expect them to be any more indepth than Harley Quinn or Red Hood. I'd like something like Cold, Cold Heart was - a follow-up or maybe prequel campaign set on the same map (or just a section of it, again like CCH.) The Gotham Stories establish that people like Zsasz, Killer Croc and Calendar Man are active, so that's somewhere they could go.
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paint dry posted:I'd like something like Cold, Cold Heart was - a follow-up or maybe prequel campaign set on the same map (or just a section of it, again like CCH.) The Gotham Stories establish that people like Zsasz, Killer Croc and Calendar Man are active, so that's somewhere they could go. Croc's been confirmed for DLC at least. Chasiubao posted:Holy poo poo I missed this I'm still hearing a ton of new dialogue in NG+. There are chunks which repeat but the overall total is mad. Also, does Slade share a voice actor with the Drone Commander or do they just sound identical? I can't tell if they're meant to be one and the same.
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poptart_fairy posted:I'm still hearing a ton of new dialogue in NG+. There are chunks which repeat but the overall total is mad. Nah, Deathstroke is the same guy he was in Origins. I think he also does the Lex Luthor cameo voice though. They're not the same guy though.
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paint dry posted:I'd like something like Cold, Cold Heart was - a follow-up or maybe prequel campaign set on the same map (or just a section of it, again like CCH.) The Gotham Stories establish that people like Zsasz, Killer Croc and Calendar Man are active, so that's somewhere they could go. Some people seem to think that Calendar Man is the one who blew up Wayne Manor at the end, given that he's at the beginning of the game and at the end near Wayne Manor, as he said he would be in Arkham City. But then that raises the obvious question of what the Knightfall Protocol is supposed to be. Personally, I don't follow that theory.
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ImpAtom posted:Nah, Deathstroke is the same guy he was in Origins. Oh, hmm, must be my ears then. He doesn't sound as into the role as he did during Origins, but maybe that's just me putting more quality into the game than there actually is.  Also goddamn, perfect freeflow fights in Knightmare are so loving satisfying. I have the Muscle Suit Brutes down to a T and countering their weapons is basically second nature at this point. Pretty sure it'd actually mess up my timing more if the counter indicators came back.
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Is this really 50% Batmobile escorting as some people have said? I've just hit Axis Chemical and I'm having to open a gate for the Batmobile, punch someone, then move a ramp for the Batmobile, repeat etc. I don't mind the tank battles, but are all levels as Batmobile-escort filled as this level?
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Darth Ronson posted:Is this really 50% Batmobile escorting as some people have said? I've just hit Axis Chemical and I'm having to open a gate for the Batmobile, punch someone, then move a ramp for the Batmobile, repeat etc. I don't mind the tank battles, but are all levels as Batmobile-escort filled as this level? The Batmobile stuff is very front loaded. There are several sections where you're working alongside the car but most content is still on foot.
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redbackground posted:They threw a super-low-res half-destroyed Wonder Tower together that exists in the background city way beyond the playable area (along with the rest of AC). Jeeze, they actually modelled all of that stuff that was off in the distance? That's actually pretty loving impressive. Like, sure they're super low res models but most other devs would have just left that as some kind of drawing on the background. Now a really do wish that the DLC took each of these areas, properly modelled them and made them explorable with missions.
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Kin posted:Jeeze, they actually modelled all of that stuff that was off in the distance? That's actually pretty loving impressive. Like, sure they're super low res models but most other devs would have just left that as some kind of drawing on the background. I like that the giant plants were just left circling the Asylum, still years later.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Some people seem to think that Calendar Man is the one who blew up Wayne Manor at the end, given that he's at the beginning of the game and at the end near Wayne Manor, as he said he would be in Arkham City. But then that raises the obvious question of what the Knightfall Protocol is supposed to be. Yeah, there's no chance. The Knightfall Protocol was them self-detonating the manor. It doesn't make any sense otherwise.
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redbackground posted:I like that the giant plants were just left circling the Asylum, still years later. I dont think you can even make that out from the mainland can you?
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Darth Ronson posted:Is this really 50% Batmobile escorting as some people have said? I've just hit Axis Chemical and I'm having to open a gate for the Batmobile, punch someone, then move a ramp for the Batmobile, repeat etc. I don't mind the tank battles, but are all levels as Batmobile-escort filled as this level? Axis? This isn't Tim Burton's playpen.
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ImpAtom posted:Nah, Deathstroke is the same guy he was in Origins. Slade's voice actor did Lex in Young Justice (that fool's dream of a show) and the Injustice Fighting game. Prolly had him in the studio and then someone had an idea and asked him to do something in his Lex voice.
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I had to avoid the thread till I was finished the story because so many spoilers were just being casually bandied about in the early days, so apologies if this has been covered in depth already. When I pre-ordered the game it said it came with the Harley DLC, but on my menu it has Arkham Stories grayed out so I can't select it. Is this a common problem/is there something I can do to fix this?
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