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MonsieurChoc posted:What's his Ice Cream flavor gonna be? Pecan Sanders.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Touched a nerve there, sorry The cornerstone of any GOP "win": the other side reacted in some way.
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Jul 14, 2015 16:41
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I'm no fan of Obama's overall foreign policy but if you think we would've had the positive development we have with Cuba and Iran if Romney had been elected president you should be an institution.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Touched a nerve there, sorry Don't apologize for being wrong. That's just who you are 
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OAquinas posted:Pecan Sanders. Feel the Bern: Listerine + Fireball candy ice cream
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C2C - 2.0 posted:The cornerstone of any GOP "win": the other side mocked us for being super wrong.
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Jul 14, 2015 16:43
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I mean, its telling that the Republican don't have a single original idea about how to solve the major problems facing the country and have even worse, unoriginal ideas about international affairs. They're reduced to babbling incoherently about mullahs or something. The party of no ideas.
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Obdicut posted:She is 36th in her class, which is what matters, not the raw GPA. 22 ACT is above average.  hobbesmaster posted:With that class rank its likely unweighted GPA. Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Jul 14, 2015 |
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Jul 14, 2015 16:52
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Touched a nerve there, sorry I'm not sure what you mean.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I mean, its telling that the Republican don't have a single original idea about how to solve the major problems facing the country and have even worse, unoriginal ideas about international affairs. They're reduced to babbling incoherently about mullahs or something. Their policies are whatever will get them elected.
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quote:Their policies are whatever will get them elected. "Just like Hillary Clinton!" except unironically for about half this thread
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Jul 14, 2015 16:59
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I mean, its telling that the Republican don't have a single original idea about how to solve the major problems facing the country and have even worse, unoriginal ideas about international affairs. They're reduced to babbling incoherently about mullahs or something. Actually one of our main ideas is "don't flub Syria so badly that we simultaneously empower Putin (who rolled in like the grownup at the pool) *and* gave ISIS the breathing room to self-organize and roll into Iraq" Like, we feel the dual outcomes of Putin taking bites out of other countries like he's on a Wonka tour, and Iran's implicit support becoming more important in Iraq should be avoided next time there's a global inflection point. Sort of a "don't draw red lines when you lack the will to enforce them" idea? Something like that, we have some time to distill it down to something pithy like "stop dumb wars".
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Jul 14, 2015 16:59
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StandardVC10 posted:I guess you've got a point. Jeb! it is. Just call him Bush. It's the most accurate way to describe what we'll get if he's elected.
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Jul 14, 2015 17:01
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The way I see it, the choice in Iran is between continued sanctions, war, or a deal. Continued sanctions don't keep them from getting a bomb. War slows them down for a few years, but makes it all but certain that they will get a bomb, because after all you've just demonstrated why they need it. A deal has of course a chance of falling apart, but the other two options are basically guarantees that we'll have a nuclear Iran at some point.
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StandardVC10 posted:The way I see it, the choice in Iran is between continued sanctions, war, or a deal. Continued sanctions don't keep them from getting a bomb. War slows them down for a few years, but makes it all but certain that they will get a bomb, because after all you've just demonstrated why they need it. A deal has of course a chance of falling apart, but the other two options are basically guarantees that we'll have a nuclear Iran at some point. Continued sanctions will just lead to war because it only bolsters hardliners in the first place. So unless the US is willing to glass the entirety of the Persian Gulf (you will need to), occupy Iran for decades, then you had best start planning a Starbucks or McDonald's franchise in Tehran.
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StandardVC10 posted:The way I see it, the choice in Iran is between continued sanctions, war, or a deal. Continued sanctions don't keep them from getting a bomb. War slows them down for a few years, but makes it all but certain that they will get a bomb, because after all you've just demonstrated why they need it. A deal has of course a chance of falling apart, but the other two options are basically guarantees that we'll have a nuclear Iran at some point. Uh you realize that even the Obama Administration admits this deal only kicks the can down the road? It temporarily increases their breakout point to a year, but that will continue to diminish to practically zero.
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Almost every single GOP "new idea" or "reform" for the country is reheated poo poo they've been trying to serve us for the past 30 years, pandering to their insane Tea Party/Evangelical base with no thoughts given to the repercussions of the policies, or dressing up a gift to the rich/powerful at the expense of everyday people as a good thing. These categories frequently overlap. I'm almost afraid to see any ideas from them that are actually bold or new because they would probably involve legally selling every citizen into slavery to our corporate overlords or some crazy poo poo.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Uh you realize that even the Obama Administration admits this deal only kicks the can down the road? It temporarily increases their breakout point to a year, but that will continue to diminish to practically zero. The deal gives Iran options beyond nuclear pariah state, which reduces their incentive to develop a weapon. That can only be helpful in the long run.
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Jul 14, 2015 17:11
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Touched a nerve there, sorry Let me guess--you're the puppetmaster, we're the puppets, we fell straight into your trap, blah blah blah.
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Jul 14, 2015 17:12
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Actually one of our main ideas is "don't flub Syria so badly that we simultaneously empower Putin (who rolled in like the grownup at the pool) *and* gave ISIS the breathing room to self-organize and roll into Iraq" So you mean second guess after having no plan that was in any way different from what the administration did in Syria?
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Jul 14, 2015 17:12
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This coming from the party who got us into this entire giant mess in the first place.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Uh you realize that even the Obama Administration admits this deal only kicks the can down the road? It temporarily increases their breakout point to a year, but that will continue to diminish to practically zero. joeburz posted:if someone uses the phrase "kick the can down the road" they are 100% guaranteed to be a piece of poo poo
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StandardVC10 posted:The deal gives Iran options beyond nuclear pariah state, which reduces their incentive to develop a weapon. That can only be helpful in the long run. By your own litmus test (x only delays a nuclear Iran) the deal is a failure.
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Jul 14, 2015 17:17
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TheDisreputableDog posted:By your own litmus test (x only delays a nuclear Iran) the deal is a failure. What's the alternative? Is there a better option that the GOP has other than "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran?"
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Isn't Iran theoretically one of the best allies against ISIS?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:That reminds me: did someone clue Donald "I promise not to talk about your massive plastic surgeries" Trump into the fact that the Treasury can just print money? And not just any money, the world's reserve currency? With his acumen for leveraging bankruptcies, I can see him as being the first, honest-to-God, print-and-spend President. He's kind of hinted at that by calling other countries "smart" for devaluing their currencies against the USD. That or he'd let the government hit the debt ceiling and default.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Uh you realize that even the Obama Administration admits this deal only kicks the can down the road? It temporarily increases their breakout point to a year, but that will continue to diminish to practically zero. Given that their breakout point is reportedly two or three months right now, I'll take that. Plus: StandardVC10 posted:The deal gives Iran options beyond nuclear pariah state, which reduces their incentive to develop a weapon. That can only be helpful in the long run. On this note, kicking the can down the road is exactly what we want to do. A medium-term deal buys everyone involved time to build better long-term solutions. Solutions that necessarily entail Iran being granted some breathing room to develop economically and - one hopes - politically, meaning sanctions are a complete dead end. They may have served some purpose in opening the door for negotiation, but they also push Iran towards nuclear weapons, not away.
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mcmagic posted:What's the alternative? Is there a better option that the GOP has other than "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran?" Of course. Continue sanctions, destroy Iran's economy, and ensure that they become a nuclear pariah state that continues to support terrorism, because what we want is another country that a) has the bomb and b) hates our loving guts. Like North Korea but in the Middle East! 
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Alter Ego posted:Of course. Continue sanctions, destroy Iran's economy, and ensure that they become a nuclear pariah state that continues to support terrorism, because what we want is another country that a) has the bomb and b) hates our loving guts. Like North Korea but in the Middle East! Seriously. Some people seem to be constitutionally incapable of grasping, let along accepting, what compromise means.
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mcmagic posted:I'm no fan of Obama's overall foreign policy but if you think we would've had the positive development we have with Cuba and Iran if Romney had been elected president you should be an institution. If McCain had won I assume we'd be in a blasted hellscape by now after he flipped his lid over Ukraine.
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mcmagic posted:So you mean second guess after having no plan that was in any way different from what the administration did in Syria? Don't forget that the GOP in congress refused to even bring to the vote a resolution authorizing the president to take military action in Syria. He had his redline and said "Okay I think we should do this, but congress ultimately has to do its job and authorize me to go to war. Oh... wait, you're not going to do that? Well I can't really do it then can I?"
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Supraluminal posted:Seriously. Some people seem to be constitutionally incapable of grasping, let along accepting, what compromise means. I thought compromise means that I get everything I want, and you get nothing that you want 
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Dolash posted:If McCain had won I assume we'd be in a blasted hellscape by now after he flipped his lid over Ukraine. ...and then died, causing Saint Sarah of Palin to be coronated as First God-Empress of The United States Imperium. Think Idiocracy, only with fewer Costcos.
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Caros posted:Don't forget that the GOP in congress refused to even bring to the vote a resolution authorizing the president to take military action in Syria. He had his redline and said "Okay I think we should do this, but congress ultimately has to do its job and authorize me to go to war. Oh... wait, you're not going to do that? Well I can't really do it then can I?" Eh, that didn't really stop him in Libya. I'm glad he didn't go over the red line personally, but asking Congress to act was pretty clearly a way of getting out of it and shifting responsibility. I would have done the same thing.
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Alter Ego posted:...and then died, causing Saint Sarah of Palin to be coronated as First God-Empress of The United States Imperium. I don't think I could live in a world where I have to go to Sam's Club to visit Starbucks.
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Donald Trump has an Instagram video response to the Iran deal, found via Robert Costa: https://instagram.com/p/4PRAtVmhVq/
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Iron Crowned posted:I thought compromise means that I get everything I want, and you get nothing that you want Depends. Are you a Congressional Republican?
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Finally caught up on this thread after like a month. I can't believe I was completely unaware of Trump's speech last week, possibly because I don't have cable.
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Iron Crowned posted:I don't think I could live in a world where I have to go to Sam's Club to visit Starbucks. Don't worry. All liberals would have been rounded up and placed in internment camps at the beginning of Empress Sarah's reign.
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BanjoFish posted:Donald Trump has an Instagram video response to the Iran deal, found via Robert Costa: What an odd attack line; Trump's the odd-man-out when it comes to political action and all anyone has from him is his "talk".
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