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A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Lmao, no. Just no, none of that is true. If you think that, or you read something that told you that, you are mistaken and should reevaluate that attitude and think that maybe it's a ridiculous attitude to take. In no court of law has a criminal said "I didn't think it was bad because George Carlin said that Elmer Fudd getting raped was funny and so I raped this girl".

Like, just loving no.


Well I think the obvious joke here is that it's an undead suicide bomber moreso than a racist cariacture. The bit largely hinges around him having blown himself up and not realizing it. It's a caricature, and it depicts a specific race, but it's not really out-and-out racist. It's more surreal or silly, honestly. Out of curiosity, if people made caricatures of Irish terrorists from the IRA when they were blowing up buildings all over the place, would that have contributed to anti-Irish sentiment? Should nobody have made jokes about them either?

Like, half of you just pointed at the joke and said "it's racist" and that's all you got. Is that really all you'd need to declare that a loving puppet show is somehow contributing to...

Ah forget it, there's no hope. Sorry I said anything, go back to whatever it is you guys do in here with Internet shows and the people who still make them.

You are the stupidest person on this forum dude.

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Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Also a new Dragonball series, in the anime department. Two episodes so far and it's been great.

SatansBestBuddy
Sep 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Jay O posted:

Well, Summer anime season just started, so here's my traditional anime recommendation DUMP POST for the new season, should it interest anyone looking for steaming hot new streaming anime! But first, a Spring season recommendations post-partum: what held up from the season so blah that I couldn't even make a top five out of it? Not fuckin' much!

Quick question, why didn't you include Food Wars/Shougeki no Soma? I thought that was the highlight of an otherwise pretty drat barren spring season, so I'm kinda surprised you didn't mention it.

Also the fact that there's a new season of Dragonball, which, you know, is kind of a big deal.

Anyway, since nothing in summer has even released enough episodes for a three episode test, I'm mostly just waiting a bit longer so I can actually gauge some quality beyond a first episode preview of each series. I was peer pressured into watching Gangsta, though, and it's pretty decent so far, but right now I'm waiting and seeing before calling everything poo poo.

Trojan Kaiju
Feb 13, 2012


The Vosgian Beast posted:

My favorite currently running anime is Steven Universe

Same.

Surprised by no Jojo on the Spring list. Didn't it end this past season? Or is that just too obvious because it's Jojo?

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude

Trojan Kaiju posted:

Same.

Surprised by no Jojo on the Spring list. Didn't it end this past season? Or is that just too obvious because it's Jojo?

Sadly, the anime finished part 3 and there is not yet any confirmation for part 4, only a lot of rumors.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

SU has a lot of moments that come across as Rebecca Sugar and Ian JQ just going "Ok, what anime thing I'm going to shove here today. You want to put a 20 second clip homage of Maru? Great! Want to put a Gunbuster classroom skit? Alright."


And if you take that out, what you have is a very, very low effort and repetitive "game" that is cool for those who need some time to get their noggins at a steady rate in something like, let's say, an anxiety disorder episode or a ptsd trigger.

Oh yeah, Phelous talks about a good anime for like 40 minutes.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Trojan Kaiju posted:

Same.

Surprised by no Jojo on the Spring list. Didn't it end this past season? Or is that just too obvious because it's Jojo?

I think the entire internet already knows about Jojo and is singing it's praises, so JO doesn't need to.

It only took us multiple decades after the rest of the world.

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

You are the stupidest person on this forum dude.

Good.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
I've only been watching Ushio to Tora out of the current season(I don't think I'll bother with DBS until new stuff happens), but maybe God Eater will change that.

My friend is watching Chaos Dragon and they seem to really like it, which surprised me, because it's been getting more hate than Gate. Gate, the show so nationalistic that it makes Mahouka look tame.

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012
Loved the episode and yeah, I've only read 3 Shakespeare plays, I'm not an expert but Othello is probably one of the hardest ones to modernize. Being a violently jealous misogynist is obviously much more frowned upon now than it would have been centuries ago. I'm glad Iago wins in this version because Othello is a shithead and a drat stupid one too. What made Emilia so well-liked in the original is that she constantly points out how sexist the society at the time was. When you modernize Othello, that gets lost but she's still Desdemona's foil and way more interesting (that applies to pretty much everything though). As for racism, it was very progressive for the fifteenth century, the only characters who hold Othello's blackness as a thing against him are the villains. Of course, the stereotypes now are very hard to ignore.

Agreed that Christopher Ecceleston is the best part of the movie. I didn't even realize it was him until I checked IMDB. Since I've never watched Doctor Who, I figured it was just some random guy with a big nose. He played the bad guy in this awful fantasy movie (The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising) that my sister used to watch all the time. It was surprising to learn that he gets type-casted into working-class everyman roles because he's a lot of fun to watch as a hammy villain.

When we were forced to watch this in class, I told my English teacher that Iago/Ben Jago came off as gay. He said I was reading too far into things. Then again, he was kind of a prude. He'd have someone sit near the projector with a foam shield called "The Shield Of Pornography." If two characters so much as started kissing, he'd say "Quick, get out the Shield Of Pornography!" It was hilarious.

Miss Wallace
Feb 24, 2013

The nights will never be the same. ARARARAR!
And another Baywatching in which Eddie's unbalanced brother comes to town.
http://phelous.com/2015/07/14/obscurus-lupa/baywatching/baywatching-sharks-cove/

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.


It's not a Skinner box though since there's no random element to it.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D

Jay O posted:

Quick notes on the sequels: Fate/stay Night UBW completely Shat The Bed Oh My God You Don't Know You Just Don't Even Know, and it wouldn't be so bad except that Type-Moonies are the literal worst fandom in creation short of maybe bronies but I think they could give the bronies a run for it, because they made managing that show and its editorial a living hell from the beginning but became ten thousand times worse in its second half. Anyway, the second half of FSN UBW was so sanctimonious, anticlimactic, gross, and just plain un-fun that it totally soured the first half for me and a lot of other tentative fans of the new series. (But we're filthy secondaries, so we don't matter to the True Fans.

As someone who followed the ANN reviews from the first season and saw the shitstorm that went down during the second season on the forums... yeaaaah, things could have been better all around, but that's just being optimistic. I'm a fan of the material and I think my criticisms of that anime come from a different place than what was put up.

I will say that I respect you guys for sticking to your guns though. Now, onto Heaven's Feel!! :buddy:

Miss Wallace posted:

And another Baywatching in which Eddie's unbalanced brother comes to town.
http://phelous.com/2015/07/14/obscurus-lupa/baywatching/baywatching-sharks-cove/

Awesome.

Does everyone in the cast have some sort of unbalanced relative/sibling that comes to Baywatch to cause trouble throughout the series? It's a wonderful running theme nonetheless.

Miss Wallace
Feb 24, 2013

The nights will never be the same. ARARARAR!

Compendium posted:

Does everyone in the cast have some sort of unbalanced relative/sibling that comes to Baywatch to cause trouble throughout the series? It's a wonderful running theme nonetheless.

I can't recall any other unbalanced siblings at the moment, although I think one of the girls later on has a mentally challenged brother. But I could be forgetting some stuff.

Best relative they just now introduced story line is when the first black lifeguard they have in the main cast (Garner wasn't sexy enough apparently) finds out her mom is white. And that is literally the only "story" they ever give her.

I would rank Mitch's gold prospector uncle as higher if he had more screen time.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Miss Wallace posted:

New Baywatching is up! Had some awesome twitter followers help me with this one since it's a clip show.
http://phelous.com/2015/07/13/obscurus-lupa/baywatching/baywatching-the-chamber/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swX-X-Ws3eA

BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Jul 15, 2015

Infamous Sphere
Nov 8, 2010
Blargh oh my god yes, I have read fanfiction, in a way it's a guilty pleasure/so bad it's good thing. I can't read trashy romance though. Fanfiction..oh god..some of the anatomical limitations are..well..let's just say these women don't very much und

Miss Wallace posted:

New Baywatching is up! Had some awesome twitter followers help me with this one since it's a clip show.
http://phelous.com/2015/07/13/obscurus-lupa/baywatching/baywatching-the-chamber/

That was...amazing. Props for all of those excellent Eddie photoshops.

Also - RE Shark's Cove, am I right in assuming that the whole "schizophrenic brother" thing was handled terribly and was incredibly offensive?

Celery Face posted:

Loved the episode and yeah, I've only read 3 Shakespeare plays, I'm not an expert but Othello is probably one of the hardest ones to modernize. Being a violently jealous misogynist is obviously much more frowned upon now than it would have been centuries ago. I'm glad Iago wins in this version because Othello is a shithead and a drat stupid one too. What made Emilia so well-liked in the original is that she constantly points out how sexist the society at the time was. When you modernize Othello, that gets lost but she's still Desdemona's foil and way more interesting (that applies to pretty much everything though). As for racism, it was very progressive for the fifteenth century, the only characters who hold Othello's blackness as a thing against him are the villains. Of course, the stereotypes now are very hard to ignore.

Agreed that Christopher Ecceleston is the best part of the movie. I didn't even realize it was him until I checked IMDB. Since I've never watched Doctor Who, I figured it was just some random guy with a big nose. He played the bad guy in this awful fantasy movie (The Seeker: The Dark Is Rising) that my sister used to watch all the time. It was surprising to learn that he gets type-casted into working-class everyman roles because he's a lot of fun to watch as a hammy villain.

When we were forced to watch this in class, I told my English teacher that Iago/Ben Jago came off as gay. He said I was reading too far into things. Then again, he was kind of a prude. He'd have someone sit near the projector with a foam shield called "The Shield Of Pornography." If two characters so much as started kissing, he'd say "Quick, get out the Shield Of Pornography!" It was hilarious.

I would have thought that The Taming of the Shrew would be harder to modernise, seeing as the whole play really revolves around misogyny - but 10 things I hate about you (and Kiss Me Kate, maybe? Not familiar with that one) appeared to do a pretty good job. I just wonder - does Othello come across as this imperceptive in every version? Speaking of interesting versions of Othello, Patrick Stewart was in a "photonegative" version, where he played Othello as a white dude, and every other character in the play was black. But that was a stage performance rather than a film.

Eccleston chat! WOO!
A lot of British TV makes its way over to Australia, where it's aired on the ABC. Call it our link with the old country or whatever else, or maybe it's just the fact that the BBC and the ABC are more or less the same kind of television network - national broadcasting funded by the government and taxpayers. As a consequence, I've seen a fair bit of new Who, even though I'm not really a fan of the show. I quite liked Eccleston's run on the show, and the character regenerated into David Tennant, my first thought was "who the hell is THAT? Eww!" Turned out Tennant was a pretty good Doctor too, but the show got sillier and sillier and I stopped watching when Matt Smith showed up and basically played the character like he was trying desperately to be David Tennant.
As for why he's typecast as a working class everyman and doesn't play a villain much, it sounds weird, but I think it has a fair bit to do with his accent. Britain has a wide range of accents, but only some of them really make their way to Hollywood, and Mancunian isn't really one of them, let alone one associated with villains (who usually have Evil RP, or if they're more working class, Evil Cockney.)

Ah, I'd heard that the adaptation of the Dark Is Rising was terrible - didn't know it had Eccleston in it. I read the book, it was pretty good - but I didn't read more than one of the series. Is it like..Dungeons and Dragons bad?

If you'd like to see him in some other stuff, he's great in the slightly soppy but enjoyable choir movie Unfinished Song, playing Terence Stamp's son in a brilliant bit of casting. His character also speaks with a southern accent in that film, to match Stamp. Or, if you want an incredibly concentrated dose of Eccleston over 3 minutes - just watch this slightly unsettling music video!

As a bonus point, my dumb throwaway joke about eccles cake is more accurate than I actually thought. Because both the cake and the man are from the exact same area of England, and are probably both named after the same town.

Also - speaking of British actors and TV adaptations and the tendency of the same TV actors to show up again and again and again, a note about Rachael Stirling. She was in two things I reviewed a very long time ago - Tipping the Velvet and Boy Meets Girl, and she's also in The Bletchley Circle, which I'd very much like to get around to reviewing. (Oh, and her mother's Diana Rigg, who is apparently now on Game of Thrones.)If you watch enough British TV you'll really notice that the same people get trotted out constantly - pretty much everyone's been in The Bill, Doctor Who, Harry Potter and a Dickens adaptation or some other BBC period drama at least once (the same thing goes for Australian productions and probably Canadian productions too - any place that consistently churns out shows with local ensemble casts.)

Your shield of pornography teacher does sound like he was kind of taking the piss :p but I definitely have experiences of teachers not really picking up on queer content. I remember saying that Mrs Danvers in Rebecca was a coded evil lesbian, and everyone in the class looked at me like I had two heads. Including the teacher. Later, in uni, my lecturers were very open to people calling things homoerotic and/or sexual. I told the Rebecca story to my gender, sex and sexuality in visual culture lecturer, who said "really? That's a pretty standard reading."

Infamous Sphere fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jul 15, 2015

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
The Cinema Snob just reviewed a lovely Bo Derek movie with, a, uh, surprising cameo http://www.thecinemasnob.com/the-cinema-snob/ghosts-cant-do-it

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
Huh, Brad and Phelous both released ghost related videos on the same day. Coincidence?

Mraagvpeine fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Jul 15, 2015

Cyron
Mar 10, 2014

by zen death robot

The Vosgian Beast posted:

The Cinema Snob just reviewed a lovely Bo Derek movie with, a, uh, surprising cameo http://www.thecinemasnob.com/the-cinema-snob/ghosts-cant-do-it

I thought you meant a cameo by a reviewer, not what this is.

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012
In the original play, Othello was pretty naive and easily manipulated but in a believable way. He was paranoid largely because of the poor treatment that he gets
in Venice. It wasn't "Oh, my coworker keeps coming onto me and trying to convince me to leave my wife. Hmmm.....nothing off about that." Still kinda weird how he didn't notice how Iago came off as a total pervert who gets obsessed with other people's sex lives.

About the Dark Is Rising adaption, it wasn't funny like Dungeons And Dragons. It was just stupid and incredibly boring. There were a lot of children's fantasy movies that came out in the mid-late 2000's but The Seeker was probably the worst and the most generic. It's apparently nothing like the book either. The movie blatantly rips off Harry Potter (the main character's family are basically the Weasley's) and the lead, who later played Cato in The Hunger Games, has no charisma or likability.

Not surprised that Eccleston gets type-casted because of his accent. It definitely reminds me of British dance music in the early 90's, a lot of it came from Manchester. If you want another thing with Christopher Ecceleston acting all crazy, he did this anti-speeding PSA five years before Othello came out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsFE-TONe2w

When I saw that creepy music video, all I could think of was the Little Baby's Ice Cream ad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erh2ngRZxs0

Watched your review of Tripping The Velvet, it was hilarious. ("DIDN'T SHE TELL YOU THAT WE gently caress EACH OTHER?!")
About Canadian productions, it's a bit different from the BBC. Sometimes the actors are American and often, they're Canadian actors who are in far more American shows than anything from Canada. It's a mixed bag. We watched a few Canadian productions in class. One was a miniseries called Iron Road. It was a period piece (lots of pretty scenery, costumes and Chinese music) about a young Chinese woman who disguises herself as a man to travel to the rockies and work on the railroad. Peter O'Toole and Sam Neil are in it. The crossdressing was pretty convincing, even when she was shown removing her breast bindings, our teacher told us she still was a boy just to mess with us and we believed him. Everyone in class loved the movie. It was a little silly but it was definitely engaging.

In elementary school, we had to watch the Canadian TV adaption of Bridge To Terabithia and it, uh, wasn't as good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIj4ekcONqg

Infamous Sphere
Nov 8, 2010
Blargh oh my god yes, I have read fanfiction, in a way it's a guilty pleasure/so bad it's good thing. I can't read trashy romance though. Fanfiction..oh god..some of the anatomical limitations are..well..let's just say these women don't very much und

To quote some random Youtube commenter.

quote:

I don't know about you guys but if my coworker/friend spent every conversation with me being really touchy feely and talking poo poo about my wife, I'd be a little uncomfortable.

That's true. Mid 2000s was the era of "Harry Potter made money, let's adapt everything!" - a decision that was responsible for Eragon. And The Golden Compass.

Yeah, there was the era of Madchester. I got into Doves and Elbow when I was about 14 or so, and that was my introduction to Manchester and the accent in general (well, it'd shown up in British tv shows before that but I'd never paid it much heed.) Thanks for the PSA! No thanks for the ice cream ad because that was about a thousand times more terrifying than Christopher Eccleston staring at the camera like he's taking place in a piece of Marina Abramovic performance art.

Similarly, a lot of Australian actors go to Hollywood/overseas in general, and spend the vast majority of their careers putting on British and American accents. I've never really paid much attention to Canadian actors - do they have to sound more American when they star in American productions or do they just go with their own accent? I can only really tell the difference between the two with careful listening, although I'm better at it since I visited both countries.
As for productions I saw in school, two of them were particularly awful, causing me to dredge them up and review them years later. Jane Eyre (my first review, it's quite poorly done), and the poisonously Australian Sara Dane, which, to date, is still the worst period drama I've ever seen. It might surprise, shock and astonish you to know that I did not watch Tipping the Velvet in class. The other Sarah Waters adaptations I've seen have been much less unintentionally funny. The most recent one, for The Night Watch, was genuinely very good, even if the characters didn't really look like what I'd imagined when reading the book. Oh, I did a speech on that book for school! It really all just ties back to school, doesn't it?

First Canadian TV show I watched while actually knowing it was a Canadian show, was Bomb Girls. Which I got super invested in - but was resolved crappily, with that lame movie. Although I laughed when Tahmoh Pennikett got shot because his character had the most creepy and lizardy fake British accent I'd ever heard and it was like nails on a chalk board whenever I heard him say anything. Subsequently, my Dad got really into this bad Canadian sci fi show called Continuum. I was watching over his shoulder when cooking dinner one day, and who should show up but Tahmoh Pennikett - and even though he was doing his regular Canadian accent, he still sounded just as creepy! Argh!

Oh my, that Bridge to Terebithia adaptation was amazing. Were you struggling to contain your laughter in class?

Infamous Sphere fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Jul 15, 2015

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Infamous Sphere posted:


Oh my, that Bridge to Terebithia adaptation was amazing. Were you struggling to contain your laughter in class?

The made for TV one? You're Lying! YOU LIE, LESLIE AIN'T DEAD!

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012
Haha, that youtube commenter was actually me.

Honestly, I can only tell that someone has a Canadian accent when it's an old news caster or a Newfie. They probably stick with their own accent because there's not much difference, no point going through the trouble.

I barely remember anything about watching the Bridge To Terabithia adaption because it was so boring. But people were probably giggling at the "You lie" (you can hear someone off camera yell that before the kid says it if you listen carefully) scene and I remember the teacher pointing out that the acting was terrible. On the other hand, we watched the BBC adaption of The Lion, The Witch And The Wardrobe the same year and I vividly remember everyone laughing at the silly costumes and the White Witch's ridiculous overacting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT74Q1GW1ns

Shortly afterwards, the Disney version came out and seeing Tilda Swinton (who was probably the best thing about that movie) say those lines in a cold, quiet, almost seductive tone instead of screaming her head off was pretty jarring for me at the time.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I think "YOU LIIIEEE!" kid was the director's son? Read that someplace, anyway.

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012

Wheat Loaf posted:

I think "YOU LIIIEEE!" kid was the director's son? Read that someplace, anyway.
I looked him up on IMDB a while back, his mom is a Canadian voice coach and his dad is Jeffrey Jones, the actor who is most well known for playing the principal in Ferris Bueller's Day Off and later turning out to be a pedophile.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Celery Face posted:

Jeffrey Jones, the actor who is most well known for playing the principal in Ferris Bueller's Day Off and later turning out to be a pedophile.

It's seriously hosed he only got five years probation for that.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

WickedHate posted:

It's seriously hosed he only got five years probation for that.

Yeah, I mean, Savile got a knighthood and Polanski got an Oscar.

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

Jay O posted:

The comics it's based on are the best-selling manga in America right now. So there's something there, and I thus feel compelled to recommend it.)

Idk if "it's on the bestseller list, so there's gotta be something there worth recommending" is a good way to approach anything, tbh, especially what with it being on the bestseller list for the same reason a lot of books are: the porn/nudity

Miss Wallace
Feb 24, 2013

The nights will never be the same. ARARARAR!

Thanks so much!

Infamous Sphere posted:

That was...amazing. Props for all of those excellent Eddie photoshops.

Also - RE Shark's Cove, am I right in assuming that the whole "schizophrenic brother" thing was handled terribly and was incredibly offensive?

Thanks! The photoshops took way too long, but I'm happy with the result!

As for the schizophrenic brother stuff...eh? Kind of? I have no experience with schizophrenia in real life, so I can't really say how true to life the performance was, although I'd be lying if I said I didn't laugh at some of the nonsense he was spouting. Mostly it was just random words and things though, and since I don't know much about schizophrenia in real life, I didn't feel qualified to make fun of it too much. They have some scenes at this ranch where he's staying and they do seem to make a point of treating the people there like everyone else, so I wouldn't say it's terribly offensive.

There are some flashbacks to when Eddie first starts noticing changes in his brother that I thought were decently done, and Billy Warlock's acting when he tells Shauni about his brother was actually good I thought.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Wheat Loaf posted:

Yeah, I mean, Savile got a knighthood and Polanski got an Oscar.

Both of them should have been imprisoned for life at the very least too. Rich people are awful.

FirstAidKite posted:

Idk if "it's on the bestseller list, so there's gotta be something there worth recommending" is a good way to approach anything, tbh, especially what with it being on the bestseller list for the same reason a lot of books are: the porn/nudity

Yeah, the public makes a lot of really lovely things popular, and it doesn't make them any better.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Infamous Sphere posted:

That's true. Mid 2000s was the era of "Harry Potter made money, let's adapt everything!" - a decision that was responsible for Eragon. And The Golden Compass.

It's still going on, isn't it? Lindsay had more than a few videos discussing it a while ago: "Harry's done! Twilight's done! Hunger Games is almost done! We need to find the next big thing in YA adaptation franchises!" So, there's been stuff like Beautiful Creatures (?), the Cassandra Clare adaptation (the name of which I cannot remember), to some degree Ender's Game and The Last Airbender, The Host, Divergent and so on, but aside from the last one, nine of them really set the world on fire. It's gone hand-in-hand with Hollywood's current fascination with multi-picture franchises (which probably wasn't started but probably was invigorated when Avengers Assemble made ALL the money), of course.

Personally, if I was a big-time producer with ALL the money, I'd be trying to get an adaptation of Beyond the Deepwoods off the ground. :swoon: (The rest of the Edge Chronicles series is probably more conventionally "Hollywood" and I'm sure they'd all be fun to see, but Beyond the Deepwoods is pretty unique within the series, in my view.)

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

WickedHate posted:

Rich people are awful.

You have no idea!

http://gawker.com/du-pont-heir-sentenced-to-probation-for-raping-his-3-ye-1555200148

Mad Lupine
Feb 18, 2011

all the things you said
running through my head

Jay O posted:


Quick notes on the sequels: Fate/stay Night UBW completely Shat The Bed Oh My God You Don't Know You Just Don't Even Know, and it wouldn't be so bad except that Type-Moonies are the literal worst fandom in creation short of maybe bronies but I think they could give the bronies a run for it, because they made managing that show and its editorial a living hell from the beginning but became ten thousand times worse in its second half. Anyway, the second half of FSN UBW was so sanctimonious, anticlimactic, gross, and just plain un-fun that it totally soured the first half for me and a lot of other tentative fans of the new series. (But we're filthy secondaries, so we don't matter to the True Fans.)


Something I learned while posting about it in the UBW forum here at SA is that UBW is not meant to be taken as a direct follow up to F/Z. This came after I posted the fact that there were a lot of threads from F/Z that were not even addressed (for example, a huge one for me was the fact that Saber did not react at all nor at any time address the fact that Shirou was Kiristugu's son). Something that came up a lot in the thread was the fact that if there are any inconsistencies between the two, it is the fault of F/Z, not UBW, as the material for UBW was written before F/Z. Also, there apparently is a route that better gels with F/Z than UBW within the Fate/Stay VN. Felt like a cop-out, but at the end of the day, I was able to divorce the two. While my reaction wasn't as strong as yours, I definitely felt that UBW was underwhelming, standard shounen fare with better than average fight scenes and I probably would not have watched it if I knew it wasn't meant as a follow up to F/Z. The series felt poorly paced, the main character was almost insufferable, and while there were some good moments(Taiga's and Rin's scenes were usually a lot of fun), the series felt like a slog to get through.

DStecks posted:

You would think that, wouldn't you.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Please explain rather than just making a passive aggressive jab, unless it was just meant to make you feel good about yourself. Then just don't bother.

Gyges posted:

If Jeff Dunham were just unfunny, he'd be unremarkable. Unfunny guys who somehow make money in comedy are a dime a dozen. It's the combo build of adding casual racism and lovely puppetry to the act that really demands the condemnation.

I should have stated how unfunny he is. It's my fault, really. He is at the nadir of comedy. The racism and bad puppets don't help.

Infamous Sphere
Nov 8, 2010
Blargh oh my god yes, I have read fanfiction, in a way it's a guilty pleasure/so bad it's good thing. I can't read trashy romance though. Fanfiction..oh god..some of the anatomical limitations are..well..let's just say these women don't very much und

Celery Face posted:

Haha, that youtube commenter was actually me.

Honestly, I can only tell that someone has a Canadian accent when it's an old news caster or a Newfie. They probably stick with their own accent because there's not much difference, no point going through the trouble.

I barely remember anything about watching the Bridge To Terabithia adaption because it was so boring. But people were probably giggling at the "You lie" (you can hear someone off camera yell that before the kid says it if you listen carefully) scene and I remember the teacher pointing out that the acting was terrible. On the other hand, we watched the BBC adaption of The Lion, The Witch And The Wardrobe the same year and I vividly remember everyone laughing at the silly costumes and the White Witch's ridiculous overacting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT74Q1GW1ns

Shortly afterwards, the Disney version came out and seeing Tilda Swinton (who was probably the best thing about that movie) say those lines in a cold, quiet, almost seductive tone instead of screaming her head off was pretty jarring for me at the time.

Haha, the internet is a tiny place.

I think it really depends on what kind of a Canadian accent it is. I definitely noticed a discernible difference between America and Canadian when I went to Canada, but I spent most of my time there in rural Ontario, and met people with pretty strong accents - including a farmer from Saskatchewan, and a guy who literally appeared on Trailer Park Boys. I only have an interest in linguistics rather than any actual formal qualification, and I can't use IPA but what I found most distinctive about Canadian accents are the raised vowels. Not just "aboat" (it's totally aboat, not aboot, even Kate Beaton agrees but I can't find the tweet in which she said so so you'll have to take my word for it), but the vowels in words like "right" and "great", which to my ear became raised to "reight" or even "reet", and "greet", depending on how strong the speaker's accent was. I found it interesting, because strong Australian accents tend to distort the vowel in the opposite direction, almost to "roight" levels. Americans don't tend to have that raising - well, in the great lakes states they can have the "Northern Cities Vowel Shift", but that tends to express itself differently. But if you're not listening to a person speaking for a very long period of time, or if you're not really thinking about it much - then yes, everyone that isn't Southern is just going to sound like one homogenous Americanadian mix (at least for people who don't live on the North American continent.)
In Montreal, their accents just sounded "french" to me, even though I know that they're different from continental French ones. The lightest accents I found were in Ottawa, particularly from a guy who grew up in Ottawa with English parents.

In case you were wondering what people thought of my accent when I was in this part of the world, most people thought I was from England or NZ. And couldn't understand me when I said "hawk."

Oh I remember that Lion/Witch/Wardrobe adaptation, where everyone was a puppet! I was a bit too young when I watched it to think it was really stupid.
I think one of the reasons why Narnia didn't take off as a big movie franchise is because it's sort of a dry series of books. As Matilda says, "There aren't any funny bits in it. All children's books should have funny bits in them." Obviously the fact that it's a biblical allegory has something to do with it, although it's not as if I picked up on the biblical themes when I was a kid.

Miss Wallace posted:

Thanks! The photoshops took way too long, but I'm happy with the result!

As for the schizophrenic brother stuff...eh? Kind of? I have no experience with schizophrenia in real life, so I can't really say how true to life the performance was, although I'd be lying if I said I didn't laugh at some of the nonsense he was spouting. Mostly it was just random words and things though, and since I don't know much about schizophrenia in real life, I didn't feel qualified to make fun of it too much. They have some scenes at this ranch where he's staying and they do seem to make a point of treating the people there like everyone else, so I wouldn't say it's terribly offensive.

There are some flashbacks to when Eddie first starts noticing changes in his brother that I thought were decently done, and Billy Warlock's acting when he tells Shauni about his brother was actually good I thought.

That's good to know. It looked kind of stupid from what you showed in the episode, but I'm not really an expert on the condition and I doubt Baywatch's representation of it is really that much worse than almost any other pop culture representation. At least they didn't do the whole "multiple personalities!" thing, which would have been a very obvious "whacky" choice for Baywatch to make. Also I'm glad to hear that Billy Warlock can actually be kind of Ok sometimes! (As an actor - maybe not so much as a person.)

Wheat Loaf posted:

It's still going on, isn't it?

I suppose it is. I mean The Hunger Games was really the next big one after Harry Potter - none of the other things had really done that much (oh, Twilight I guess. I like to forget about that franchise if I can help it.) Beautiful Creatures must have sunk without a trace. I remember seeing the trailer and then hearing nothing about it ever again. I'm surprised no one's done a Redwall movie, come to think of it - although most of the people who actually read Redwall are probably too old to care, and I'm not sure if any kids in this generation are bothering with it. (I totally read the vast majority of the Redwall books. Multiple times, even though I knew they were formulaic, repetitive and crappy.)
If I were to pick a series of books to make into movies, I would go for Joan Aiken's Wolves of Willoughby Chase series, because they were absolutely fantastic. Although now people care about them so little that you can barely even find the books in libraries or bookstores anymore, so I doubt they'll ever be movies. BBC adaptation maybe?

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
I'm actually surprised that no one's really taken a whack at the Eragon movie in video review format yet. It's the kind of incompetent, goofy faceplant of a movie that would be rife for a Best of the Worst episode if it was ten years older and you shaved like three or four 0's off its budget.

I know there's been an ungodly amount written about it and the books it was based on, but I'm still surprised no one's tackled it yet in video format.

Infamous Sphere
Nov 8, 2010
Blargh oh my god yes, I have read fanfiction, in a way it's a guilty pleasure/so bad it's good thing. I can't read trashy romance though. Fanfiction..oh god..some of the anatomical limitations are..well..let's just say these women don't very much und
I'm pretty sure the Blockbuster Buster did it. But..I assume you meant that you wanted someone else to talk about it.

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012
I saw that movie when I was going through a dragon phase in elementary school. It was dumb but the dragon looked great and Jeremy Irons and Robert Carlyle were really entertaining (as they are in pretty much everything). John Malkovitch is in there for like five minutes but he's hilarious too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TxlvvmDsOs

Never read the book but apparently, it was really obvious that a fifteen year old boy wrote it.

Gonna be honest, Infamous Sphere, I thought you were British until you mentioned being Australian and then I was like "Wait a minute, of course that's an Australian accent."
Also agreed with you that it's "Aboat," no one says "Aboot" up here. Though, I once talked to this navy captain from Ontario who pronounced Wipeout as "Wipeoot."

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
My brother loved the Inheritance books when they were coming out so my dad took us to see it in the cinema. I have not seen it since it came out, but I remember thinking it was enjoyable but only when Irons, Carlyle and Malkovich are on the screen, because Irons is taking the role of Obi-Wan Kenobi Gandalf Brom very seriously (that just seems to be the kind of actor Irons is and has always been) while the other two are having fun with what they realise is a bad movie. I'd include Honsou as well, but he's not really in it enough (I realise he probably has more scree time than Malkovich, but he had less to do).

I remember thinking The Golden Compass (another one I've not seen since it was out in the theatre) was a worse movie, in the sense it was more of a chore to watch. It felt like it kept skipping scenes, so the characters would explain what happened that we didn't see. Like, I'm pretty sine there's a bit at the end where someone narrates that Daniel Craig's character (who had been captured by the villains and taken out of the story maybe half an hour or more earlier) bribed his guards to let him go and was now on the run.

It also stuck out how they always seemed to pronounce the polar bear's surname in a way that emphasised the "bear" part - i.e. Iorik Bear-nesson" - like it was a terrible pun they were especially proud of

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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Celery Face posted:

I saw that movie when I was going through a dragon phase in elementary school. It was dumb but the dragon looked great and Jeremy Irons and Robert Carlyle were really entertaining (as they are in pretty much everything). John Malkovitch is in there for like five minutes but he's hilarious too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TxlvvmDsOs

Never read the book but apparently, it was really obvious that a fifteen year old boy wrote it.

Gonna be honest, Infamous Sphere, I thought you were British until you mentioned being Australian and then I was like "Wait a minute, of course that's an Australian accent."
Also agreed with you that it's "Aboat," no one says "Aboot" up here. Though, I once talked to this navy captain from Ontario who pronounced Wipeout as "Wipeoot."

I just know it pretty much critically wounded the careers of everyone involved in it who weren't Jeremy Irons, Robert Carlyle, or John Malkovich. Even Rachel Weisz and Djimon Hounsou dropped off the radar for a while for a while after Eragon and they were in it for like five minutes, each.

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