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Sir Kodiak posted:Her father was certainly successful, but I'm curious if mid-sized textile manufacturers qualify as part of the "small group" in which power is "fairly tightly concentrated." Like, are the people making drapes for hotels part of the oligarchy we're worried about. Wealthiest by caparison to Bill and Barack's families was what I meant. They're nowhere near the type of wealth that the Bush's grew up with.
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Thump! posted:He's gonna suspend the elections until we fully join the civilized world He can't do that, he has to follow the First Amendment.
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A Winner is Jew posted:I think out of all of them Hillary has come from the wealthiest family actually. And that's not really saying much. Her dad owned a small business in textiles. They were fairly middle class and Republican.
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Yesss, push him to run on his own, suck all the crazies out the the Republican base. I want a bloodbath next year.
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Brannock posted:For all the reasons he listed for potentially not wanting Clinton as the candidate, not a single one was "Someone so closely related to a former President shouldn't be running for President." Probably because that's a dumb reason and people who consider that a good reason to exclude Hilary are better off being ignored. "They are related to a former leader" as an argument to disqualify someone who might otherwise be good for the job is beyond dumb. There's plenty of reasons to disqualify people like Jeb!? without bringing up his shithead brother. Brannock posted:We're very likely to get Bush vs Clinton in the general, which means that since 1988 6 out of 8 elected terms have been held by two families. If this was anywhere else in the world we'd be denouncing it as a clear example of oligarchic tyranny. Except Russia is the exact same leadership the entire time (or do people really think Medvedev was in charge and not obeying Putin?) whereas you have to be insane to think the Bush and Clinton families are working together. Russia was a literal figurehead appointment that didn't change Putin leading the country and this was very apparent any time the two were at odds because Putin was never the one to blink first.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:I hope Obama uses his last year to push for metric, just to see Republicans melt down defending our good, honest American measurements. We've always said Republicans would fight Obama over literally anything, let's put it to the test. "In other news, the White House announced today that they will back the passage of the Don't Drink Bleach Act of 2016 through Congress. Republican leaders are already vowing to contest the passage of the measure, and massive bleach-drinking protests have already sprung up in conservative enclaves across the country."
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Alter Ego posted:"In other news, the White House announced today that they will back the passage of the Don't Drink Bleach Act of 2016 through Congress. Republican leaders are already vowing to contest the passage of the measure, and massive bleach-drinking protests have already sprung up in conservative enclaves across the country." Why not the Don't Eat Cyanide Act of 2016?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:And that's not really saying much. Her dad owned a small business in textiles. They were fairly middle class and Republican. Well yeah, but that beats being the son of a gambling/drinking auto dealership owner or son to an international aid worker.
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Thump! posted:gently caress it, switch everything to Metric, start measuring temperature in Kelvin Look at these global warming statistics! Yesterday it was 35 degrees Celsius, today it is 309 Kelvin!
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Alter Ego posted:"In other news, the White House announced today that they will back the passage of the Don't Drink Bleach Act of 2016 through Congress. Republican leaders are already vowing to contest the passage of the measure, and massive bleach-drinking protests have already sprung up in conservative enclaves across the country." http://on.cc.com/1tyOF8I
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Nintendo Kid posted:Why not the Don't Eat Cyanide Act of 2016? Who said we're stopping there?
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Sir Kodiak posted:Her father was certainly successful, but I'm curious if mid-sized textile manufacturers qualify as part of the "small group" in which power is "fairly tightly concentrated." Like, are the people making drapes for hotels part of the oligarchy we're worried about. the petite bourgeoisie is probably the most counter-revolutionary class
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Might be worth noting that Brand Paul's opposition to the Iran deal is a break from both Ron Paul and The Cato Institute, indicating that he's more willing than ever to jettison his libertarian appeal and become a normal Republican.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Wealthiest by caparison to Bill and Barack's families was what I meant. They're nowhere near the type of wealth that the Bush's grew up with. Absolutely. Not complaining about you clarifying what "relatively modest" is covering. icantfindaname posted:the petite bourgeoisie is probably the most counter-revolutionary class Sure. Hillary's sometimes deference to the wealthy could certainly be explained by her background, if one felt the need to engage in that sort of analysis. But they're not oligarchs.
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This is a surprise to you? Being a normal Republican with libertarian branding always been his entire platform
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A Winner is Jew posted:Better than his son... Mr Grey will see you now
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Sir Kodiak posted:Sure. Hillary's sometimes deference to the wealthy could certainly be explained by her background, if one felt the need to engage in that sort of analysis. But they're not oligarchs.
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icantfindaname posted:This is a surprise to you? Being a normal Republican with libertarian branding always been his entire platform It is not at all a surprise to me, nor do I think most self-described libertarians are appreciably different from regular Republicans in the first place when the chips are down. Still seems like something worth noting, since Lindsey Graham and others have been beating Paul over his one or two sane positions on foreign policy. Instead of doubling down, he's assimilating.
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Miltank posted:Those would be her donors. Yep.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Well yeah, but that beats being the son of a gambling/drinking auto dealership owner or son to an international aid worker. well yeah, though obama's grand mother (who he mostly lived with) ended up being like the vice president of the bank she worked for
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Trump has filed with the FEC. And of course, his statement begins with two paragraphs of bragging, how these forms weren't designed ' for someone of Mr. Trump's wealth'.  Phone posting, so no link or screen atm.
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richardfun posted:Trump has filed with the FEC. And of course, his statement begins with two paragraphs of bragging, how these forms weren't designed ' for someone of Mr. Trump's wealth'.  How long until the first debate?
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richardfun posted:Trump has filed with the FEC. And of course, his statement begins with two paragraphs of bragging, how these forms weren't designed ' for someone of Mr. Trump's wealth'. ahahahaha aoh god please let this happen
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A Winner is Jew posted:
I think the 6th of August is the first one. No clue if Trump is even going to be a part of it though. He better be.
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He's polling in the lead or close to it in many polls. He's filed and officially running. What possible reason could they exclude him?
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Anime Curator posted:I think the 6th of August is the first one. No clue if Trump is even going to be a part of it though. Assuming Trump's poll numbers stay where they currently are,  has no choice but to include him in the debate.
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richardfun posted:Trump has filed with the FEC. And of course, his statement begins with two paragraphs of bragging, how these forms weren't designed ' for someone of Mr. Trump's wealth'. Ahahaha, holy poo poo "I have so much money I CAN'T loving FIT IT ON THESE CANDY-rear end PAPERS!"
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Alter Ego posted:Ahahaha, holy poo poo "I have so much money I CAN'T loving FIT IT ON THESE CANDY-rear end PAPERS!" He could just use scientific notation but, you know, it's Trump.
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greatn posted:He's polling in the lead or close to it in many polls. He's filed and officially running. What possible reason could they exclude him? Maybe if he's arrested for fraud or something? I don't know what's going on with his finances, but I'm guessing if they find anything illegal in them the GOP would pounce on the opportunity.
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DaveWoo posted:Assuming Donald "I am the least racist person" Trump's poll numbers stay where they currently are, Well, they could still try to lock him out if they really wanted to. It'd just cause a giant shitstorm which would call into question the "legitimacy" of the debate itself to a lot of the base.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-15/trump-claims-net-worth-over-10-billion-as-he-files-disclosurequote:Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump claimed a net worth exceeding $10 billion and a 2014 income of $362 million as he filed his financial disclosure with the government. no form yet
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Alter Ego posted:Ahahaha, holy poo poo "I have so much money I CAN'T loving FIT IT ON THESE CANDY-rear end PAPERS!" Trump/Trump's Ego 2016
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icantfindaname posted:When are the debates again? August 6th and September 16th will be the first two this year.
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I think this is the release:quote:Today, Donald J. Trump filed his Personal Financial Disclosure (PFD) forms with the Federal Election Commission (FEC).
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-15/trump-claims-net-worth-over-10-billion-as-he-files-disclosure does anyone actually buy this?
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TEN BILLION DOLLARS Again with the "caring for people" stuff. Doesn't he realize he's running for the GOP nomination?
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