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2d6 is terrible and causes many rerolls due to 7s. Just call even/odd.
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Chill la Chill posted:2d6 is terrible and causes many rerolls due to 7s. Just call even/odd. People really see this as an issue?
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Jul 16, 2015 18:51
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Chill la Chill posted:2d6 is terrible and causes many rerolls due to 7s. Just call even/odd. Protip Even/odd is where it's at.
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Jul 16, 2015 18:52
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Chill la Chill posted:2d6 is terrible and causes many rerolls due to 7s. Just call even/odd. I do 3d6. 
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Jul 16, 2015 18:53
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Yes it's annoying. In every other game you just toss a coin and call heads/tails idk how magic latched on to a bad method of declaring starting player
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Jul 16, 2015 18:54
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Sickening posted:People really see this as an issue? Annoying people. I always roll 2 d6's even when my opponent offers 3 lol
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Jul 16, 2015 18:54
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mcmagic posted:Annoying people. I always roll 2 d6's even when my opponent offers 3 lol Wow you're a true rebel.
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Jul 16, 2015 18:55
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2d6 is dumb but everyone does it for some nonsense reason.
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Jul 16, 2015 19:04
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Jul 16, 2015 19:08
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This takes people on average what, a whole 5 seconds to figure out who goes first even if you tie every once in a while? People who play magic bitch about the dumbest things.
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Jul 16, 2015 19:08
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If you're not using rock lobster/paper tiger/scissors lizard to decide who goes first then you are using an inferior method.
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Jul 16, 2015 19:10
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Sickening posted:This takes people on average what, a whole 5 seconds to figure out who goes first even if you tie every once in a while? People who play magic bitch about the dumbest things. People have weird ideas about what is and isn't a 50% chance.
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Jul 16, 2015 19:18
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At my store, we decide who goes first with a quick game of Warlord: Saga of the Storm. Which kinda ruins the joke, considering that nobody 'goes first' in Warlord, it's all decided within the game (rolling for initiative at the start of the turn)
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Jul 16, 2015 19:21
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I have way more experience in keeping rolling dice on the table whereas I'm more worried about a coin flipping away, oddly enough. Whatever works best for the individual is fine, though.
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Jul 16, 2015 19:22
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when i was a wee tot we'd cut our decks and whoever cut to a higher CMC card would go first
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Jul 16, 2015 19:24
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black potus posted:when i was a wee tot we'd cut our decks and whoever cut to a higher CMC card would go first This, but lands were worth 6.
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Jul 16, 2015 19:25
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Zoness posted:
This sounds like a better idea the more I think about it. Usually if I don't have a die handy I will grab a random card, land, or token lying around and have my opponent guess if the collector number is odd or even.
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Jul 16, 2015 19:27
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okay so i was intrigued by pucatrade chat so i set up an account and i'm a little hesitant. i don't have a lot to offer yet, but i do seem to have some things people want and it seems like my shipping costs are only going to be around 15-20c per card, but how does receiving cards work? do you put things on your want list and just suddenly start receiving them? that seems really weird to me, especially given that i'm not sure what i want yet. any advice on how i should be using this?
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Jul 16, 2015 19:33
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The reason people don't like even/odd is that they like to feel as though they have some control over their own fate.
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Paper Triangle posted:okay so i was intrigued by pucatrade chat so i set up an account and i'm a little hesitant. i don't have a lot to offer yet, but i do seem to have some things people want and it seems like my shipping costs are only going to be around 15-20c per card, but how does receiving cards work? do you put things on your want list and just suddenly start receiving them? that seems really weird to me, especially given that i'm not sure what i want yet. any advice on how i should be using this? Think of your wantlist as a set of bounties. You post them, other people fulfil them (mail you the cards), and you conclude the trade. It's pretty straightforward and low-friction to be honest, although if you're concerned about price spikes it might make sense not to have too many points in your account. Mostly PucaPoints are a discrete way of representing value. Getting your bulk rares into your Haves list (there's an .xml import feature if you already have a list) will let you pick up extra value on trades by sending multiple cards in the same letter. As for how to use it, I'd vote aggressively. There's a reasonably-sized group of people using scripts to refresh their Trades page, and you may not be able to send cards if they're always beating you to the punch. If you're frustrated after a while and want to join them, PucaPower is the tool you want. When it comes to how you interact with the system, think about what is and isn't worth mailing out to you. Some people arrive at different thresholds here (i've been mailed $0.25 cards before) but you should have a heuristic already decided and then just operate under it. It can totally change over time but small trades can be a bit of a hassle if you have a few higher-valued cards. Overall though it's a pretty sweet service and I've been pleased with it.
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Madmarker posted:Rare re-drafting, great way to to draft prize out or greatest way to do draft pay out? Last year I attended a rare re-draft event at my LGS. The owner is a pretty fat nerd with terrible body odor and a fedora, but he seemed to really like the idea so I said whatever. I opened a Brimaz and left with a Birds of Paradise =(
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Jul 16, 2015 19:54
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Rare redrafting is a great way to never get any new players to come to your store.
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Jul 16, 2015 19:56
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Lets Pickle posted:This sounds like a better idea the more I think about it. Yeah having it give you the first player choice during pairings would be better. Collector number is skewed to favor odd.
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BJPaskoff posted:The reason people don't like even/odd is that they like to feel as though they have some control over their own fate. with dice? that's literally not how dice work
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Jul 16, 2015 19:56
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Sigma-X posted:with dice?
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Sigma-X posted:with dice? I think he means the binary 50/50 outcome rather than with a range of results.
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Jul 16, 2015 19:58
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I have a large collection of challenge coins from various dumb things that I always have on me. I took one with me this weekend and about half the people were like "no lets just use dice" and I thought that was the strangest loving thing ever.
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Jul 16, 2015 20:03
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if you don't use a 1d100 like this then you're wrong
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Jul 16, 2015 20:08
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:if you don't use a 1d100 like this then you're wrong Hell yea!
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Telex posted:I don't think I can do drafts here, it looks like all the stores in NYC are geared towards unemployed or kids since they all start from 4-6pm or something and there ain't no way I can leave work at 4pm or make it to a store all the way across the city by 6 but the Standard game seems to start at 7 and I can probably make that so that's what I'm trying to focus on. Sounds like you need to make a trip to my local store in the Bronx, Fordham Comics. Some highlights: The gooniest minorities you will ever meet Outrageous misogyny and homophobia No air conditioning Walls packed with non-working arcade machines that the owner won't get rid of The toilet gets flushed at the end of the night with a bucket (sometimes! haha!) Prices are fair and the owner breaks Wizards' street dates by 3-4 days, though. Kind of evens out. I need to start playing MTGO.
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Foreskin Problems posted:Sounds like you need to make a trip to my local store in the Bronx, Fordham Comics. Some highlights:
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Foreskin Problems posted:Sounds like you need to make a trip to my local store in the Bronx, Fordham Comics. Some highlights: Ughhhh. I went to Twenty Sided in Williamsburg and the experience was pretty nice and they under sold the event on purpose so it wasn't cheek to cheek sweaty nerds and things were pretty chill. I was expecting the worst, it wasn't too bad! Yours sounds a lot more like what I was expecting based on my time playing Magic in the 90's with primarily unemployed dudes and college kids.
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Telex posted:Ughhhh. My friend runs events at Brooklyn Strategist. Need to decide where I want to start playing the most. Part of me just wants to host 7 people at my kitchen table after buying a box. Split the cost, open the packs to draft, extra packs are the prize pool. Won't be too lucrative, but should be fun.
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a dozen swans posted:Think of your wantlist as a set of bounties. You post them, other people fulfil them (mail you the cards), and you conclude the trade. It's pretty straightforward and low-friction to be honest, although if you're concerned about price spikes it might make sense not to have too many points in your account. Mostly PucaPoints are a discrete way of representing value. Getting your bulk rares into your Haves list (there's an .xml import feature if you already have a list) will let you pick up extra value on trades by sending multiple cards in the same letter. thanks for this, but i'm still not sure i understand it. i'll give an example. i have 500 points just from signing up and filling out my profile. i have one yavimaya coast (not listed for trade) and i want three more. i search for it and add it to my want list and notice it's 182 points. does this mean that anyone with a yavimaya coast can claim the bounty and mail me one? are the points then deducted from my total immediately and held in escrow until i confirm receipt of the card or something? is there a way i can control quantity? i don't want more than 4 total, but if i had enough points people could just keep sending them to me over and over right?
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Nephzinho posted:My friend runs events at Brooklyn Strategist. Need to decide where I want to start playing the most. Part of me just wants to host 7 people at my kitchen table after buying a box. Split the cost, open the packs to draft, extra packs are the prize pool. Won't be too lucrative, but should be fun. I did this when Conspiracy came out except we could only muster a five-player draft, so now I have 21 Conspiracy packs burning a hole in my closet and I'm praying I can find a BYOP draft or something around here. Normally I'd say gently caress it and crack them but not with Conspiracy (plus I pulled a Dack when drafting from it so what are the odds I can find another?)
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Paper Triangle posted:thanks for this, but i'm still not sure i understand it. i'll give an example. i have 500 points just from signing up and filling out my profile. i have one yavimaya coast (not listed for trade) and i want three more. i search for it and add it to my want list and notice it's 182 points. does this mean that anyone with a yavimaya coast can claim the bounty and mail me one? are the points then deducted from my total immediately and held in escrow until i confirm receipt of the card or something? is there a way i can control quantity? i don't want more than 4 total, but if i had enough points people could just keep sending them to me over and over right? You only receive the number you list on your "Want List". The points are then held in escrow until you confirm the trade has been completed.
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Paper Triangle posted:thanks for this, but i'm still not sure i understand it. i'll give an example. i have 500 points just from signing up and filling out my profile. i have one yavimaya coast (not listed for trade) and i want three more. i search for it and add it to my want list and notice it's 182 points. does this mean that anyone with a yavimaya coast can claim the bounty and mail me one? are the points then deducted from my total immediately and held in escrow until i confirm receipt of the card or something? is there a way i can control quantity? i don't want more than 4 total, but if i had enough points people could just keep sending them to me over and over right? You add the card for each copy you want and whenever someone clicks send the card gets removed from your want list. In this case you would put Yavimaya Coast on your want list 3 times, and with enough points you would get 3 copies. The points for what you're being sent work exactly like you said. Edit: beaten.
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oh, that makes a lot more sense. if i have two of a card, that means i should list it twice too right?
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Paper Triangle posted:oh, that makes a lot more sense. if i have two of a card, that means i should list it twice too right? P much this. I like Luca but for anything worth more than $15-20 and I add tracking so I don't get shmooed and that usually rates about $2.54 per envelope where I am in the Midwest.
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bhsman posted:I would generally avoid buying fat packs, though they provide you with a spindown dice and a nice box to hold UltraPro large deckboxes in (two at a time), in addition to a set of basic lands. They aren't a bad purchase, but I would really only recommend buying one at most and putting the rest of your money towards singles, as others have said. I like fat packs because they come with the booklet. Really.
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