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Relin posted:What are the best Alien related comics?
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Predator versus Judge Dredd versus Aliens. Not even joking, it's great. But, it's a Dredd comic with Aliens and Predators, not the other way around.
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Jul 16, 2015 14:31
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Relin posted:What are the best Alien related comics? WildCATS/Aliens is Warren Ellis using an inter-company crossover to kill off all the superfluous characters from his Stormwatch run, in preparation for starting The Authority. I'm not sure how well it holds up as a one-shot without context, but it's a terrific comic book that virtually reboots the Wildstorm universe through Alien.
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Jul 16, 2015 14:35
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I seem to remember one of those Batman/Alien comics at least having very good artwork.
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Jul 17, 2015 03:24
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Lurdiak posted:I seem to remember one of those Batman/Alien comics at least having very good artwork. Bernie Wrightson did the first one, so, yup. The art in the second one is good too!
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Jul 17, 2015 03:38
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Relin posted:What are the best Alien related comics? The Labyrinth mini-series is worth a read. So is Salvation, which has Mike Mignola on art and man, he draws a great xenomorph. Both of those are in the 3rd Dark Horse omnibus, and the latter is getting a solo reprint later this year. Also seconding the Goodwin/Simonson adaptation of the first movie. Simonson also draws a great xeno.
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Jul 17, 2015 05:51
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Thanks I'll try those out. The first SvsA series is one of the few comics I actually own, purchased when it came out
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Jul 17, 2015 12:44
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A lot of comic books feature hand-to-hand combat at some point, but in these scene artists tend to pose characters in the most generic fashion they can. Even characters who are supposedly martial arts masters (Captain America, Batman, Cassandra Cain) or who are associated with specific fighting styles (Wildcat) get the exact same "fight choreography" as everyone else: either those overcommitted punched straight from the 20's, or a "punches and kicks" thing inspired by bland 80's karate flicks. What's a comic that is specifically concerned with producing good, dynamic, distinctive fight choreography? Some things I've read that more or less fit what I'm looking for: Frank Miller's Daredevil Warren Ellis' Moon Knight The Immortal Iron Fist and a lot of manga, notably Vagabond
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Jul 17, 2015 15:19
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Cyphoderus posted:What's a comic that is specifically concerned with producing good, dynamic, distinctive fight choreography? (I would have said Miller's Daredevil and Iron Fist if you hadn't already.) redbackground fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Jul 17, 2015 |
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Jul 17, 2015 15:22
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Cyphoderus posted:A lot of comic books feature hand-to-hand combat at some point, but in these scene artists tend to pose characters in the most generic fashion they can. Even characters who are supposedly martial arts masters (Captain America, Batman, Cassandra Cain) or who are associated with specific fighting styles (Wildcat) get the exact same "fight choreography" as everyone else: either those overcommitted punched straight from the 20's, or a "punches and kicks" thing inspired by bland 80's karate flicks. Check out Glory and Orc Stain
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Jul 17, 2015 22:37
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Cyphoderus posted:A lot of comic books feature hand-to-hand combat at some point, but in these scene artists tend to pose characters in the most generic fashion they can. Even characters who are supposedly martial arts masters (Captain America, Batman, Cassandra Cain) or who are associated with specific fighting styles (Wildcat) get the exact same "fight choreography" as everyone else: either those overcommitted punched straight from the 20's, or a "punches and kicks" thing inspired by bland 80's karate flicks. Some, but not all, issues of "Zero".
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Jul 17, 2015 22:54
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I don't pay much attention to the detail you want but Infinite Kung-Fu?
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Jul 17, 2015 23:50
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Thanks for all the suggestions, guys! I'll definitely check out those series.redbackground posted:You would probably find this article at the AV Club (and subsequent comments) right up your alley. This is a great article.
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Jul 18, 2015 18:52
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Sale on all the Fable trades for 5 bucks a piece: I've always heard it was a good series, but is it good back to front?
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Jul 21, 2015 14:07
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zoux posted:Sale on all the Fable trades for 5 bucks a piece: I've always heard it was a good series, but is it good back to front?
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Jul 21, 2015 14:38
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Well maybe I'm a super conservative Republican who really likes clumsy and obvious ego stroking, you ever think of that?
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Jul 21, 2015 14:39
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zoux posted:Well maybe I'm a super conservative Republican who really likes clumsy and obvious ego stroking, you ever think of that? 
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Jul 21, 2015 15:02
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Well thanks for saving me a hundred bucks or so.
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Jul 21, 2015 15:12
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Endless Mike posted:I read what I guess was the second trade as it was coming out and didn't get what people saw in it, and then it apparently turns into super pro-Republican propaganda, so. I mean Willingham doesn't hide his beliefs but calling it propaganda is a bit hyperbolic. As a means to convert anyone to that way of thinking its a pretty piss poor attempt. I stand by a lot of that comic being really good up to a point, but it really helps if you have any sort of appreciation for fairy tales and folklore.
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Jul 21, 2015 16:04
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Now I'm really torn. I'm way into fairy tales and folklore but that political stuff seems awful. Can you please elaborate on how bad it gets? Because this seems to indicate it can get extremely bad. I've read Fables was excellent up until issue 100 or so, is that a good approximation? Cyphoderus fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 16:15
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Cyphoderus posted:Now I'm really torn. I'm way into fairy tales and folklore but that political stuff seems awful. Can you please elaborate on how bad it gets? Because this seems to indicate it can get extremely bad. I can't tell if Willingham is saying that the “Surrender? Surrender??? You think this letter on my forehead stands for France?” line is a good example of Cap or not. How can anyone actually think that is what Captain America stands for.
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Jul 21, 2015 16:34
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Senor Candle posted:I can't tell if Willingham is saying that the “Surrender? Surrender??? You think this letter on my forehead stands for France?” line is a good example of Cap or not. How can anyone actually think that is what Captain America stands for. People are actually considering voting for Donald Trump to be PotUS, because they think him calling Mexican immigrants rapists is showing patriotic pride. If someone thinks that's what American patriotism is, why wouldn't they want Cap to embody that? (I think it's abhorrent too, but it's not exactly baffling if someone has a very right-wing view of the US, that they'd want the hero wearing the flag to lean that way too)
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Jul 21, 2015 16:40
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Senor Candle posted:I can't tell if Willingham is saying that the “Surrender? Surrender??? You think this letter on my forehead stands for France?” line is a good example of Cap or not. How can anyone actually think that is what Captain America stands for. Yes he is. He also thinks that he should be AMERICA gently caress YEAH ignoring that is not what he is for at all.
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Jul 21, 2015 16:40
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Cyphoderus posted:Now I'm really torn. I'm way into fairy tales and folklore but that political stuff seems awful. Can you please elaborate on how bad it gets? Because this seems to indicate it can get extremely bad. The Israel chapter is by far the worst example and I think he's said he regrets putting it on because it's bad storytelling. One of the reasons why I don't think it works as propaganda is because Bigby (and the rest of the Fables) aren't really role models to begin with, and in context the Israel analogy actually makes sense even if it's very poorly written. Fables is a series about a fundamentally corrupt, broken society where no one is happy, so the implication that anyone is supposed to go "gently caress yeah Israel" after reading that is kind of ludicrous, though on the other hand I can see why you think it isn't worth defending. I think the turning point is around issue 75 - you'll know it when you see it - but I really do think it's a good series, and it's unfortunate that it got the reputation it did because the author is a big butthole.
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Jul 21, 2015 16:47
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Yeah, the way some people talk, you'd think issue 1 opened with Snow White and Rose Red in full IDF gear battling snarling Palestinian caricatures. The early arcs are literally just the high concept with some basic soap opera-y melodrama mixed in. It's very enjoyable stuff for a while. Honestly, the more egregious bleeding in of Willingham's politics is with Goldilocks, who's basically just an awful parody of 'liberals'.
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Jul 21, 2015 17:03
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Gaz-L posted:Yeah, the way some people talk, you'd think issue 1 opened with Snow White and Rose Red in full IDF gear battling snarling Palestinian caricatures. The early arcs are literally just the high concept with some basic soap opera-y melodrama mixed in. It's very enjoyable stuff for a while. Honestly, the more egregious bleeding in of Willingham's politics is with Goldilocks, who's basically just an awful parody of 'liberals'. The farm is also a hosed up concept when you think about it. You know oh you look different so you have to stay in one place and you can never leave, and that's seen as a good thing.
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Jul 21, 2015 17:05
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bobkatt013 posted:The farm is also a hosed up concept when you think about it. You know oh you look different so you have to stay in one place and you can never leave, and that's seen as a good thing. Yes that's kind of the whole point of the farm, it was never portrayed as a happy place. You could also just play Wolf Among Us, it's most of the good parts of Fables without Willingham being majorly involved.
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Jul 21, 2015 17:13
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Just read up until they deal with The Adversary, it's good up to that point
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Jul 21, 2015 17:14
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Gaz-L posted:Honestly, the more egregious bleeding in of Willingham's politics is with Goldilocks, who's basically just an awful parody of 'liberals'. Goldilocks is a weird Unabomber expy, I never read her as a liberal parody. Like, Fables does have positive portrayals of liberal characters too, like Flycatcher, who's pretty much the most unambiguously good character in the series.
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Jul 21, 2015 17:28
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I'm surprised that Fables is still chugging along. Speaking of chugging along, is there an "ending" or a planning conclusion for any of Kirkman's books? Walking dead or Invincible?
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Jul 21, 2015 17:30
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^^ Its ending this week or next. Hakkesshu posted:Goldilocks is a weird Unabomber expy, I never read her as a liberal parody. Like, Fables does have positive portrayals of liberal characters too, like Flycatcher, who's pretty much the most unambiguously good character in the series. Who ends up as King. Goldilocks was always talking about Marx and other socialist ideas.
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Jul 21, 2015 17:31
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I haven't read Simonson's Thor. I just got a month of Marvel Unlimited for $0.01. I could probably do worse with my penny than fixing this oversight. Is it just issues 337–382, or is there anything else I'd need to read in that run?
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Jul 21, 2015 20:17
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Uthor posted:I haven't read Simonson's Thor. I just got a month of Marvel Unlimited for $0.01. I could probably do worse with my penny than fixing this oversight. Is it just issues 337–382, or is there anything else I'd need to read in that run? VVVV no annuals, no renumbering, it's totally straightforward. redbackground fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 20:20
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No annual universe-wide crossovers? No random title changes?? No renumberings to #1??? (actually, just wanted to be sure there wasn't any annuals I would miss)
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Jul 21, 2015 20:28
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About 15 years ago my dad would take out random Graphic Novels from the library, I read a ton of Dredd, Aliens, and other completely random books like Legend by David Gemmell. One of the Graphic Novels was about a girl who has a giant gold fist... I have absolutely no idea what happens, but I remember it ending on a cliff hanger after she met a group of adventurers, it was fantasy more than sci fi. The art was American but with a hint of big manga like cartoonishness. I think she met an old Wizard and formed a group with her and some other guy. Does anyone have any idea what im talking about? willie_dee fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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Jul 21, 2015 20:50
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Uthor posted:No annual universe-wide crossovers? No random title changes?? No renumberings to #1???
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Jul 21, 2015 21:14
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I just listened to the episode of Rachel and Miles that covered that, so I should be okay. I was more commenting on the current state of comic publishing.
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Jul 21, 2015 21:21
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So what series/even was it where wolverine lost his healing factor?
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Jul 22, 2015 01:19
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He lost it in the 2013 series: http://www.comicbookdb.com/title.php?ID=39758 He dealt with the loss in the 2014 series: http://www.comicbookdb.com/title.php?ID=42798 He died in this 2014 series: http://www.comicbookdb.com/title.php?ID=45340 Uthor fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Uthor posted:I just got a month of Marvel Unlimited for $0.01. May I ask how? I got three months for free when I bought my tablet, but I wouldn't mind getting another free month.
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