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Ursine Asylum posted:I don't know what it's like in your company, but I despise interns (no offense). Not (always) because of competency issues, but always because the developers don't actually get a say in the interning process. You're just working on a project, minding your own business, and then your manager/HR double-teams you to drop an intern in the middle of your job for three months. I had a bunch of interns at my last job that were excellent, hard working young guys. I think it's cultural, they were all first generation indian immigrants, and really worked hard. They went out of their way to be helpful. The next year, we changed, and got a bunch of white frat boy bros. It was like we hired a lacrosse team. They were awful they all sat at their desks and played on their phones, didn't engage and try to learn anything. If you asked them to do something, they'd either refuse to do it since they were "busy" or just say "uh huh" and just ignore you.
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The Fool posted:... Ynglaur fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jul 18, 2015 |
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Thanks Ants posted:I hope we can all agree that the only thing worse than a bunch of social media icons in an email signature is putting a long list of qualifications after your name. Extra points are awarded if it's just an undergrad degree. There's a help desk person at my job whose signature says "six sigma advanced blue belt" and I thought maybe the person was joking.
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Jul 18, 2015 14:05
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A government contractor has this in his email sig - “Good judgment comes from experience, and experience comes from poor judgment.” except mangled to some degree to sound even more ominous. As expected, the guy is a total dick.
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:The next year, we changed, and got a bunch of white frat boy bros. It was like we hired a lacrosse team. They were awful they all sat at their desks and played on their phones, didn't engage and try to learn anything. If you asked them to do something, they'd either refuse to do it since they were "busy" or just say "uh huh" and just ignore you. We have the worst round of interns ever this year. We passed a new dress code and cell phone policy because of them and they're wearing out the ping pong table.
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Jul 18, 2015 15:47
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I have my ccna certs listed in my Sig because it might trick people into thinking I'm smarter than I am.
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Jul 18, 2015 15:56
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Sickening posted:We renovated our website! Yay! Wow, that is hosed. Is there any chance of this getting changed once management starts to see helpdesk tasks falling by the wayside because they are stuck calling customers all day about website issues? I just don't even...
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Jul 18, 2015 16:24
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J posted:Wow, that is hosed. Is there any chance of this getting changed once management starts to see helpdesk tasks falling by the wayside because they are stuck calling customers all day about website issues? I just don't even... Who knows. I imagine my guys will have to quit before any change will happen.
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Jul 18, 2015 17:11
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:I had a bunch of interns at my last job that were excellent, hard working young guys. I think it's cultural, they were all first generation indian immigrants, and really worked hard. They went out of their way to be helpful. The next year, we changed, and got a bunch of white frat boy bros. It was like we hired a lacrosse team. They were awful they all sat at their desks and played on their phones, didn't engage and try to learn anything. If you asked them to do something, they'd either refuse to do it since they were "busy" or just say "uh huh" and just ignore you. Bob Morales posted:We have the worst round of interns ever this year. We passed a new dress code and cell phone policy because of them and they're wearing out the ping pong table.  Don't your interns have hosts? People who are responsible for them and to whom they directly report? This should be reflecting awfully on THEM if they're not getting taken to task about this.
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Jul 18, 2015 17:38
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myron cope posted:There's a help desk person at my job whose signature says "six sigma advanced blue belt" and I thought maybe the person was joking. For a long time I thought Six Sigma was a thing that 30 Rock made up until I jokingly asked a friend who used to work at GE and he completely seriously said that he was a black belt.
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Jul 18, 2015 17:53
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Volmarias posted:
Interns in my experience are relatives of the executives. Are you going to tell the cfo his son is lazy?
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Jul 18, 2015 18:33
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Ynglaur posted:They were running a script that screw scraped every time the enter key was pushed? Please tell me it only did this when the application had focus. Yes, and I guess it was actually just the terminal window, and not the full screen.
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Jul 18, 2015 18:55
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The only important thing you should add to your signature is BSc SSc
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Jul 18, 2015 19:15
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Migishu posted:The only important thing you should add to your signature is BSc SSc And set a reminder in your calendar to seal that drive plate.
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Jul 18, 2015 19:28
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Bigass Moth posted:Interns in my experience are relatives of the executives. Are you going to tell the cfo his son is lazy? No, but I'd tell the CFO his son hasn't completed anything assigned to him.
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Fil5000 posted:And set a reminder in your calendar to seal that drive plate. Gazpacho soup!
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Jul 19, 2015 00:54
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I haven't done the whole fix my computer thing in a long time so just a quick question. Is there a go to boot environment for offline repair poo poo? I got an offer that I couldn't refuse to fix a logon issue on a computer and I pretty much just need something that I can boot into and offline edit the registry. No idea if it is an XP machine or not so don't want to rely on win7/8 recovery environment. Is Hiren's still the best thing? I figure I should bring whatever is best in case it isn't just a quick thing like I think it is.
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Jul 20, 2015 01:41
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Demonachizer posted:I haven't done the whole fix my computer thing in a long time so just a quick question. Is there a go to boot environment for offline repair poo poo? I got an offer that I couldn't refuse to fix a logon issue on a computer and I pretty much just need something that I can boot into and offline edit the registry. No idea if it is an XP machine or not so don't want to rely on win7/8 recovery environment. You could use this utility to activate and blank the password for the Administrator account and then login to the computer as local admin to fix whatever the problem is.
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Jul 20, 2015 01:49
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mewse posted:You could use this utility to activate and blank the password for the Administrator account and then login to the computer as local admin to fix whatever the problem is. Oh yeah I am bringing a copy of that. I just don't know if it is going to be something wrong with all the user accounts (logs in and then immediately goes back to login screen). Usually when I have seen this in the past it is a quick registry fix on one profile but don't want to go and have to leave or something or spend time burning discs since they are paying me a lot of money (200/hr lol).
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Jul 20, 2015 01:51
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Demonachizer posted:Oh yeah I am bringing a copy of that. I just don't know if it is going to be something wrong with all the user accounts (logs in and then immediately goes back to login screen). Usually when I have seen this in the past it is a quick registry fix on one profile but don't want to go and have to leave or something or spend time burning discs since they are paying me a lot of money (200/hr lol). It's a long shot but I've seen something like that once before, caused by clamwin (lovely antivirus) finding a false positive on userinit.exe and deleting/quarantining it. I had to extract that file from a windows disc and get in onto the problem hard drive.
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Jul 20, 2015 02:04
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Oh hey intern talk :-) I used to be an intern. Until july 1st 2015 The company I worked at absolutely loved my attitude. And included me on alot of projects. And eventually let me handle my own. And they decided to keep Me. And are now paying for my college. At 1st they let me do easy stuff. Install drivers and stuff. Take some calls. Solve some easy tickets. I was getting bored. And started to help out with some more technicall difficult. Problems. And from then on. Work kept piling on and on. But now that I am hired. I'm afraid i will dissapoint them. When i encounter a new problem. I just google it and find the solution and why it happened so i can try to prevent it. But everyone else just looks at the problem and they know what steps to take. Same with powershell. I have some understanding of it. But I don't type out the scripts. I go for a search on google and edit it to make it usable for me. Heck even had to use google for the cmd's to start configuring switches I just hope the curtain wont fall for me. This job is amazing. So much to do. I even got to the chance to tidy up our server room. (It was a spagetthi mess) I know thats a not fun part but i had fun getting my hands on switches and switching out cables learnig how patches work Edit: Was phone posting, edited out some errors Sefal fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Jul 20, 2015 11:23
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You basically described how my career started 20 years ago. A tip I can give is to get some documentation of your skills, find something you enjoy and get a certification. Being a jack of all trades is fine at first but you quickly realise it limits your career options to helpdesk/general sysadmin roles.
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Collateral Damage posted:You basically described how my career started 20 years ago. Yeah i'm starting with the MCSA exams. I already signed up for the 70-410. after that's done, I will be moving on to 411 and 412. The reason I didn't go for the whole package at once, is because i will be starting college soon. Having to work 40 hours plus go to college and study for certs would be a bit too much. So i'm taking it 1 step at a time. After the MCSA. I would go either for the MCSE or the VCP Edit: Server Room Pics It was going from one side to the other. It's not the best cable clean up job But i liked doing it. this is what it was like when I started to organize it.  this is after  Sefal fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Sefal posted:But now that I am hired. I'm afraid i will dissapoint them. When i encounter a new problem. I just google it and find the solution and why it happened so i can try to prevent it. But everyone else just looks at the problem and they know what steps to take. Also known as "Impostor Syndrome" - you think you're unskilled when you in fact have strong skills. Being able to identify a problem, use relevant terms to look it up in a reference library (Google), find relevant solutions and filter out irrelevant information, then applying the solution. Those are important skills that far from everyone is capable of. You will eventually remember some facts etc., so you won't have to look things up all the time. The same way you'll be using a dictionary more often when you haven't learned a language well. Keep doing what you're doing, your colleagues likely aren't seeing any of the "faults" you think you have. Just remember that there is more knowledge out there than any one person can keep in their mind, and referencing others' knowledge is a skill.
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Collateral Damage posted:You basically described how my career started 20 years ago. I'm, jesus, 8 years into my career now and only starting to realize this. I've always been a jack of all trades general sysadmin type and am quickly realizing that there is nowhere to go but into management, which would more than likely mean finishing my bachelors in business or something else related, or just making more and more lateral sysadmin moves. One person CANT be an expert in everything that encompasses IT. I need to find a niche and get as good as I can in it. For a while I thought that would be SCCM but I cant see doing that and making it to 40. BaseballPCHiker fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Jul 20, 2015 13:59
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nielsm posted:Also known as "Impostor Syndrome" - you think you're unskilled when you in fact have strong skills. Was going to say basically this. Being smart enough to Google, and smart enough to know that you need more info, is a huge strength. Almost everyone starts this way (there are always the "how the gently caress does this dude know everything" people). Keep reading, keep learning, and please gods ask questions if you need to - as someone who's trained a lot of people, taking 10 minutes to ask a question about something important is infinitely more appealing than spending 5 hours de-loving something.
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BaseballPCHiker posted:I've always been a jack of all trades general sysadmin type and am quickly realizing that there is nowhere to go but into management, which would more than likely mean finishing my bachelors in business or something else related, or just making more and more lateral sysadmin moves. One person CANT be an expert in everything that encompasses IT. I need to find a niche and get as good as I can in it. For a while I thought that would be SCCM but I cant see doing that and making it to 40.
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Bob Morales posted:the other end of this is you need to live around companies that are large enough to need specialists. There aren't a ton where I live so that really limits what I can do :-/ So true. One of the reasons I left western Alaska is that I had gotten as high as I could've possibly reached in my career in that small of an area. I love the country and having to stick close to major cities can really suck, but the job opportunities are so much better. Pissing me off today is this drat ancient COBOL program we use again. Just rolled out a major upgrade that we paid the vendor a ton of money for and printing is now broke for some users. I tried so hard to get us to go with a more modern software, but this company has customized so much for us over the past 20 years that we were looking at at least 5 different software packages all from different vendors just to get us our existing features.
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BaseballPCHiker posted:I'm, jesus, 8 years into my career now and only starting to realize this. I've always been a jack of all trades general sysadmin type and am quickly realizing that there is nowhere to go but into management, which would more than likely mean finishing my bachelors in business or something else related, or just making more and more lateral sysadmin moves. One person CANT be an expert in everything that encompasses IT. I need to find a niche and get as good as I can in it. For a while I thought that would be SCCM but I cant see doing that and making it to 40. You can easily make a career out of System Center if you want to go that route. Do you just hate the idea of it? I work in SCCM daily and I guess I'm just used to the various idiosyncrasies of how it functions now. I know a guy that deals with SCOM exclusively and he makes into the six figures. Apparently it's a hard skillset to come by. Orchestrator is a big thing too, what with the OCC cracking down on server patching harder than it ever has in the past.
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BaseballPCHiker posted:I'm, jesus, 8 years into my career now and only starting to realize this. I've always been a jack of all trades general sysadmin type and am quickly realizing that there is nowhere to go but into management, which would more than likely mean finishing my bachelors in business or something else related, or just making more and more lateral sysadmin moves. One person CANT be an expert in everything that encompasses IT. I need to find a niche and get as good as I can in it. For a while I thought that would be SCCM but I cant see doing that and making it to 40.
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:You can easily make a career out of System Center if you want to go that route. Do you just hate the idea of it? I work in SCCM daily and I guess I'm just used to the various idiosyncrasies of how it functions now. SCCM just frustrated me to no end when working with it. I was the main administrator for it at my last company and I just got sick of working with it. Part of the problem might have been that my knowledge was entirely self taught and that I felt like some formal training would've helped me a great deal. That and the company was splitting my time between that and some networking duties. If you're going to have SCOM, SCCM in your environment that needs to be a persons full time job. I agree though those guys can make bank. We had an orchestrator consultant come in for a few weeks and he was not cheap.
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BaseballPCHiker posted:SCCM just frustrated me to no end when working with it. I was the main administrator for it at my last company and I just got sick of working with it. Part of the problem might have been that my knowledge was entirely self taught and that I felt like some formal training would've helped me a great deal. That and the company was splitting my time between that and some networking duties. If you're going to have SCOM, SCCM in your environment that needs to be a persons full time job. I agree though those guys can make bank. We had an orchestrator consultant come in for a few weeks and he was not cheap. Yeah, I can understand that. SCCM requires a certain level of comfort with Powershell and SQL queries, after that it's just understanding the nuances of the product. There are a lot of strange things that SCCM does, like not being able to deploy a Task Sequence to a user, or the obtuse Application revisioning mechanism, or how a great deal of operating system asset intelligence inventorying is defined in the "Hardware" section of Client Settings. There are a bunch of online resources with great information, so I'd recommend checking into those when possible. SCCM is incredibly powerful and versatile if you know what you're doing.
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myron cope posted:There's a help desk person at my job whose signature says "six sigma advanced blue belt" and I thought maybe the person was joking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Sigma#Implementation_roles quote:Formal Six Sigma programs adopt a kind of elite ranking terminology (similar to some martial arts systems, like Kung-Fu and Judo) to define a hierarchy (and special career path) that includes all business functions and levels. The things I need to catch up on  Edit: The most interesting part of all this seems to be that these martial-arts-style belt colors seem to have meaning only as ordained within a specific entity; that someone would link what is essentially an inside joke in a signature is bizarre. Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Collateral Damage posted:How is Microsoft's lovely NetBIOS RPC still a thing in tyool 2015? It's quite possible to buy commercial UNIX servers right now that come with telnet and ftp enabled out of the box (and no ssh server).
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I don't think even HP-UX is that bad anymore. AIX is not. Solaris is not.
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evol262 posted:I don't think even HP-UX is that bad anymore. AIX is not. Solaris is not. Solaris 11 is pretty nice, actually. As of 10 they basically already had systemd(under a different name, ofc) and 11 seems to be adopting all the new things linux has been developing.
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Sefal posted:Same with powershell. I have some understanding of it. But I don't type out the scripts. I go for a search on google and edit it to make it usable for me. I have to gently caress around with Mailbox/Calendar permissions and out of office messages so much, I just have a .txt of common commands pre-typed out to paste into Exchange management shell. 
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RFC2324 posted:Solaris 11 is pretty nice, actually. As of 10 they basically already had systemd(under a different name, ofc) and 11 seems to be adopting all the new things linux has been developing. I was a really active OpenSolaris user before Oracle bought Sun and wrecked it. I'd argue that SMF, launchd, and systemd all started as ideas of the same concept and have borrowed heavily from each other, which is nice. The big problem with Solaris now (from a user perspective) is that a lot of Linux utilities are starting to rely on serious Linux-isms and aren't trivially portable to other OSes, Solaris included... Also, XML config is horrible and whoever designed SMF to use it should feel bad.
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evol262 posted:Also, XML config is horrible and whoever designed SMF to use it should feel bad. Zones are simultaneously the best and worse thing about Solaris.
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