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Bloody Hedgehog posted:... the price per bottle is cheaper than the set. I was just interested in the paint. I don't need any brushes and I'd rather pay $43 for an acrylic nail polish display thing than $60 for their case.
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I decided to try out scale models as a hobby about a week ago and I'm starting out with a Tamiya Panther A. I want to try out a plane or ship next to see what my freak is. Can anyone suggest good companies for ships and planes? Thanks.
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SkunkDuster posted:I was just interested in the paint. I don't need any brushes and I'd rather pay $43 for an acrylic nail polish display thing than $60 for their case. I use this for my paints (and I probably should buy another one at this point).
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RanchoRube posted:I decided to try out scale models as a hobby about a week ago and I'm starting out with a Tamiya Panther A. I want to try out a plane or ship next to see what my freak is. Can anyone suggest good companies for ships and planes? Thanks. Stick with Tamiya for your first couple builds.
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Colonial Air Force posted:I use this for my paints (and I probably should buy another one at this point). Hobbyzone - http://www.hobbyzone.pl/en/13-stands-racks-and-hangers-for-paints/ makes some great desktop organizers for paint and tools also.
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The Locator posted:Hobbyzone - http://www.hobbyzone.pl/en/13-stands-racks-and-hangers-for-paints/ makes some great desktop organizers for paint and tools also. Can confirm, I have one right in front of me with a bunch of Cryx pirates on it.
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I'm making some Warmahordes (Protectorate of Menoth), and I want to give them some dusty desert weathering. Any advice on what to do? I've done some research, but its all about wheeled and tracked vheicles. Warmachine is all troops and walkers, so I'm a bit in the dark. I should also point out I haven't tried my hand at weathering yet.
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wtfbacon posted:Stick with Tamiya for your first couple builds. Seconded, they have a plethora of kits that are cheap enough to cut your teeth on, yet high quality enough that they are easy to put together and look good on a shelf.
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Ensign Expendable posted:Seconded, they have a plethora of kits that are cheap enough to cut your teeth on, yet high quality enough that they are easy to put together and look good on a shelf. Also, Tamiya doesn't have any tank models (as far as I know) with individual track links to glue together, which can be a bit...overwhelming for newcomers. Some of their WW2 tanks are older kits, but they've got pretty consistent quality. Edit: oh wait, you were asking about ships and planes. Uhhhhh. Not really my area of expertise (to the extent that I even have one) but I'd caution that a lot of ship models are...fiddly. I have a Trumpeter kit of the HMS Dreadnought that I haven't come close to finishing because it's got about 11 billion tiny-rear end parts. There's plastic boxes made of separate walls that could have been solid pieces. It's like tweezer hell. Unless that's your thing. The 1:72 Revell planes aren't exactly the best, but the price is right. When I first got my airbrush I got a spitfire and a bf109 for like $7 each just to have something to practice on. They're great for experimenting.
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I have been thinking about getting into modeling as a sort of Zen activity, plus I am a big history nerd. There is a 1:72 Tamiya model of a IL-2 that looks kickass but it says it has to be exported from Japan and the instructions are in Japanese. Is this pretty common with Tamiya models? Would it be easy to find a manual in English online? Also why does the OP say tanks are bad for newbies?
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Tanks are better than planes, there's no loving around with transparent canopies.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:The 1:72 Revell planes aren't exactly the best, but the price is right. When I first got my airbrush I got a spitfire and a bf109 for like $7 each just to have something to practice on. They're great for experimenting. The 1:72 Revell planes are largely old Testors, ESCI, and Frog molds. They are great for what they are, though I prefer new tooling airfix for detail and engineering. Revell has nicer decals on their planes though. The Revell F4U-1A in 1:72 is actually really nice, I made a really nice model out of it. (The Tamiya ones are supposed to be better) Panama Red posted:I have been thinking about getting into modeling as a sort of Zen activity, plus I am a big history nerd. There is a 1:72 Tamiya model of a IL-2 that looks kickass but it says it has to be exported from Japan and the instructions are in Japanese. Is this pretty common with Tamiya models? Would it be easy to find a manual in English online? Tanks are bad for newbies because they are generally full of finicky little suspension parts and the tracks are either individual links that have to be glued together around the roadwheels or lengths of molded-as-one track that have to be built around the wheels like a puzzle. That being said, Dragon has a line of tanks with DS branded tracks that are like a paintable rubber strip that can be wrapped around the wheels. In conclusion gently caress tanks.
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If you're getting crazy pre-war poo poo like a MkV or a Vickers, then yeah, the suspension has a lot of pieces. Once you get to WWII era, the suspensions become a lot simpler. As for tracks, older kits come with vinyl tracks where all you have to do is slip two pins into each other and heat them up until they deform. Easy peasy.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Also, Tamiya doesn't have any tank models (as far as I know) with individual track links to glue together, which can be a bit...overwhelming for newcomers. Some of their WW2 tanks are older kits, but they've got pretty consistent quality. 
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Ensign Expendable posted:As for tracks, older kits come with vinyl tracks where all you have to do is slip two pins into each other and heat them up until they deform. Easy peasy. Sounds easy, until you're trying to fit them on and they snap, and there's no feasible way to mend the two pieces and have it look anything close to good. I hate vinyl tracks.
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What kind of ancient tracks are you using? I've only seen broken tracks on one kit, and it was from the 60s. You can also mend them with a staple and cover it up with mud or something.
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RanchoRube posted:I decided to try out scale models as a hobby about a week ago and I'm starting out with a Tamiya Panther A. I want to try out a plane or ship next to see what my freak is. Can anyone suggest good companies for ships and planes? Thanks. For ships, get a Trumpeter 1:200 scale Missouri and all the photo-etch upgrades for it from Eduard. This is a joke. Don't do this unless you hate yourself and your wallet. It will cost well over $500 and is probably over 3000 parts, and it's over 53" long.
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The Locator posted:For ships, get a Trumpeter 1:200 scale Missouri and all the photo-etch upgrades for it from Eduard. While we're on the topic of massively oversized ships with too many parts, I did start on my Victory. Nothing too interesting to show there yet, but I DID build a teeny tiny cannon today.   Also work on the Japanese train continues 
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Jonny Nox posted:.... Out of curiosity, which tank are you talking apart here? I've never had the suspension be the biggest pain in the dick. Aside from Dragon's Maus kit, but that's a really special case. There's nothing that could make a tank with that many bogies and wheels pleasant to put together. The Locator posted:For ships, get a Trumpeter 1:200 scale Missouri and all the photo-etch upgrades for it from Eduard. Ahahah, christ, you weren't kidding.  Fuuuck that. Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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That looks kinda cool not painted, shows off the brass.
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Jonny Nox posted:The 1:72 Revell planes are largely old Testors, ESCI, and Frog molds. They are great for what they are, though I prefer new tooling airfix for detail and engineering. Revell has nicer decals on their planes though. Thanks. On the Tamiya models, though, can people recommend a good retailer to buy from through Amazon? The Tamiya USA catalog is expensive by comparison and the nearest retailer is in another state. I don't mind ordering from Japan, but it seems unclear if the instructions come in both English and Japanese or just Japanese. Been burned recently on some things I ordered online so looking for guidance.
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I'm taking my girlfriend's brother to see the Iowa in San Pedro tomorrow so I think I might grab a kit of that. I think I'll go 1/700 with it because my girlfriend is already concerned about space with my 1/35 Panther. If that 1/200 MO kit wasn't 500 bux, I'd get it just to get her goin'. I'm torn between the Tamiya waterline and a full hull kit.
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Troll Bridgington posted:Thanks again for this! I followed your advice on my mustang today. I thinned my paint a lot more, turned down the psi, and built up light coats. The preshading actually came through! Glad I could help a little, I'll be looking forward to seeing how this progresses on.
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Panama Red posted:Thanks. I do most of my hobby kit searches on http://www.hobbylinc.com/ (US store, ), but since cross-atlantic shipping has gotten more expensive, I often end up buying from http://www.modelhobbies.co.uk/shop/ (UK store, obviously). Hobbylinc is great is because you can look after countries and eras when searching. I'm also quite new to model kits, but I've been wargaming for many years, so I have some experience of building plastic miniatures. I'm mostly building 1/48 vehicles, and I haven't seen anything in the Italeri or Tamiya kits I've built that would be impossible to figure out, even for a beginner. There are things that I mess up now and then, but you have to gently caress up a lot more than on plane or boat kits before it's noticable, and a lot can be hidden by adding stowage or just dirt to a fighting vehicle. I agree on Tamiya having solid tank kits that are good enough to feel like you're not working with poo poo, but simple enough that you're not overwhelmed. The Italeri kits have been good quality, but much worse instructions. The Tamiya ones are clear enough that I think I could manage decently with just the pictures, even. I just built this Panzer 38(t): http://www.hobbylinc.com/tamiya-german-panzer-38t-ausf-e:f-plastic-model-military-vehicle-kit-1:48-scale-32583  Rolling with the Kübelwagen I just built as well I found it to be the easiest tank to build yet, and it was released just this spring. There is no suspension or anything to build, the wheels in the threads just go directly on pegs from the hull. The only part that should be tricky are gluing the threads, and I don't think you'll find much simpler threads than these. It helps that I like early WW2 boxy tanks, they are cute as heck. So yeah, I would recommend getting a couple of Tamiya kits as your first tries, and ask here if you get stuck on something. e: I've also built (in 1/48) Tamiya's Pz. II, Sd. Kfz. 251 and Sd. Kfz. 232, as well as ICM's Sd. Kfz. 222. All of them were pretty easy kits, so I don't think there's so much reason to fear until you start getting into the more detailed types of 1/35 kits, which I imagine can get a lot worse. Maybe I'll work up the courage and get one for Christmas. 
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Panama Red posted:Thanks. I buy through Amazon, usually without looking at the actual seller. Frequently while really, really drunk. Regardless of where they ship from they've always had at least an english version of the instructions. Just be warned that anything sent actually from Japan will take a highly unpredictable amount of time to arrive. I've had stuff show up a week later, and had other packages that took so long I'd totally forgotten about that and ended up with a mystery package a month down the line. Anything Prime enabled is pretty much interchangeable, though.
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Panama Red posted:Thanks. Don't worry about instructions being in japanese. 99% of model instructions are made like Ikea instructions, with symbols and arrows that basically say "Part A attaches to Part B". Any other bits that my need explaining have been documented 100 times over on various modeling sites and forums.
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RanchoRube posted:I'm taking my girlfriend's brother to see the Iowa in San Pedro tomorrow so I think I might grab a kit of that. I think I'll go 1/700 with it because my girlfriend is already concerned about space with my 1/35 Panther. If that 1/200 MO kit wasn't 500 bux, I'd get it just to get her goin'. I'm torn between the Tamiya waterline and a full hull kit. If you're worried about space for your tanks, scale down to 1:72nd. It's also a very popular armour scale, and you can get a lot of wargaming kits that are all snap-together and very very simple.
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Jonny Nox posted:In conclusion gently caress tanks. You take that poo poo back right now, son.  Airplanes have poo poo tons of fiddly little bits that hang off them and usually have to be painted separately from the rest of the kit. Then just as you're about to put them all together something breaks or falls off. Also, planes have these graceful, gentle curves that are inevitably on join lines, so they almost always require filling and sanding to look decent. Tanks are usually boxy and square and require minimal filling to look good. In all seriousness though, each genre has its own ups and downs. To the guy that originally asked, just do some research (see http://scalemates.com ) on what kits fit your fancy. Look for when it was tooled and try to read some reviews. Go from there. But seriously though, gently caress DS tracks. Dragon dropped the loving ball when they decided to go with DS tracks instead of magic tracks. I've got a pair of King Tigers in my stash that I bought before I realized just how bad DS tracks are. I just ended up spending $100+ on two sets of Friuls from Sprue Brothers because I hate DS tracks so much. Panama Red posted:On the Tamiya models, though, can people recommend a good retailer to buy from through Amazon? The Tamiya USA catalog is expensive by comparison and the nearest retailer is in another state. I don't mind ordering from Japan, but it seems unclear if the instructions come in both English and Japanese or just Japanese. Been burned recently on some things I ordered online so looking for guidance. There are a lot of great online retailers in the US, bud. You don't necessary need to go thru Amazon unless you're dead set on them for some reason. Try: http://store.spruebrothers.com http://hobbylinc.com http://scalehobbyist.com (my fav) http://megahobby.com http://towerhobbies.com http://squadron.com There are tons more, but those are some of the bigger names. wtfbacon fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:If you're getting crazy pre-war poo poo like a MkV or a Vickers, then yeah, the suspension has a lot of pieces. Once you get to WWII era, the suspensions become a lot simpler. As for tracks, older kits come with vinyl tracks where all you have to do is slip two pins into each other and heat them up until they deform. Easy peasy.
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Oh come on, the Valentine isn't bad. The other two... they never really moved on from WWI.
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All of them were actually oddly successful designs, but you're forgetting at least one more, some of which even had sensible suspension before never seeing production.
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Panama Red posted:On the Tamiya models, though, can people recommend a good retailer to buy from through Amazon? Here's my usual list of shops: Modeling Community Sites Scalemates Armorama Perth Military Modeling Canadian Art Supplies Colours Art Supplies Opus Art Supplies Deserres Sculpture Supply Canada Sial Canadian Hobby Shops Think Hobbies PM Hobbycraft Great Hobbies Udisco Hobby Hobby Elm City Hobbies The Barrel Store Air Connection Imperial Hobbies Old Dog Models Hobbystuff Depot US Hobby Shops Sprue Brothers Red Frog Hobbies MegaHobby Squadron Asian Hobby Shops Lucky Model Hobbylink Japan Tamiya Shop Hobby Easy UK Hobby Shops Historex Agents Hannants Raw Materials/Basing Supplies MiniArt Models Archer Transfers The Scenic Factory Woodland Scenics Evergreen Plastic Plastruct Canyon Creek Scenics Reality in Scale Model Scene
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Hobby Hobby - Good shop with the worst name
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Here's my usual list of shops: Is there some way to save your post as a local HTML file and bookmark it?
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SkunkDuster posted:Is there some way to save your post as a local HTML file and bookmark it? Click the # button next to the post, then either bookmark it or press Ctrl+S to save.
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Speaking of airbrushes, can anyone comment on this one? http://www.amazon.com/Badger-Air-Brush-2020-2F-Gravity-Airbrush/dp/B000BROVIO/  Amazon has a pretty amazing price ($82 for a list price of $400). My cheapo Master brush has decided to remain locked in full spatter mode regardless of what I do. Upgrade time.
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Yooper posted:Speaking of airbrushes, can anyone comment on this one? From the miniatures thread, the consensus is that the Sotar is ace for fine detail work, and must be bought when found on those infrequent Amazon sales, but it's not meant for priming, or painting large flat areas. The idea would be to get that one for detail work, then get another cheap workhorse just for the wide angle stuff, and you'll still be ahead.
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As someone who currently does all his model kit paintwork with brushes and Revell enamel paints, would there be any advantage to switch to airbrushes? My main concerns are a lack of space and ventilation. Currently I do all my building at my PC desk, I'm in a tiny apartment with not too much space or any separate workspace(or even adequate ventilation) Overall results I'm getting are pretty decent though, I just have the occasional missed spot or with some paints(gloss mainly) slightly visible brushstrokes. Also, the only paints I have good access to are the Revell enamels since they're sold in various places, as opposed to others that I could only get from a specialty store or order online. Considering I've got like fourty different paint colors already I'd like to avoid having to rebuy them all, and it's gonna be mainly for larger surfaces as I'm moving to larger kits(started out with 1/144 fighter planes) Reason I'm asking is because I recently built the Revell 1/24 Volkswagen T1 panel van, and painting the larger surfaces on it was a bit of a chore.
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Thanks for the awesome replies! Definitely very useful for buying kits. I think I might start off with a Revell 1/48 P-40B to start. Only intimidating thing is the paint job, since I am not ready to invest in an airbrush quite yet. I do have ample Play Doh, though, so masking for hard edged 2-color camo shouldn't be a problem. Also, once I have some experience, I want to do the IL-2 Sturmovik, as that is my favorite plane from WW2 Once the kit arrives, I'll be sure to pester the thread with my progress. Panama Red fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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