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Kekekela: Oct 28, 2004

fatherdog posted:

I missed the prelims, how was the Neer fight?

He pulled out earlier this week.

# ? Jul 18, 2015 02:29

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# ? May 17, 2024 16:34

fatherdog: Feb 16, 2005

lmao "We at Bellator embrace the Irish fighting spirit"

# ? Jul 18, 2015 03:07

LobsterMobster: Oct 29, 2009; "I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

fatherdog posted:

lmao "We at Bellator embrace the Irish fighting spirit"

"Brennan, please put on a shirt"

"gently caress YOU BRO, I'M TOO JACKED!"

# ? Jul 18, 2015 03:28

colonel_korn: May 16, 2003

So is Michael Page actually good? I'm still not sure.

re: http://streamable.com/j95x

# ? Jul 18, 2015 04:56

CommonShore: Jun 6, 2014; A true renaissance man

colonel_korn posted:

So is Michael Page actually good? I'm still not sure.

re: http://streamable.com/j95x

He had a close fight with Nah-Shon Burrell, so...

# ? Jul 18, 2015 05:11

Darude - Adam Sandstorm: Aug 16, 2012

colonel_korn posted:

So is Michael Page actually good? I'm still not sure.

re: http://streamable.com/j95x

dancing IS the best base for mma, so maybe!

# ? Jul 18, 2015 05:33

Kekekela: Oct 28, 2004

Just watched the main card and thought it was pretty enjoyable, the last fight probably being my least favorite. My main takeaway was that I'd never seen Page fight before and holy loving lol do I want to see more of that now.

Also, as a goofy looking mid 40s grappler myself, I felt a strange kinship with Roger Carroll. While I admire the dogged determination with which he kept plodding forward I really would've loved to have seen that fight if he had tried some form of lateral movement.

As some guy plucked from the regional circuit, I was worried Dennis Olson might die in the ring against Daly, but I thought he did a very admirable job of getting to some decent positions and even having some attacks in the first round.

# ? Jul 18, 2015 13:08

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; c-spam cannot afford

colonel_korn posted:

So is Michael Page actually good? I'm still not sure.

re: http://streamable.com/j95x

I grew up with Rudy Bear's sister in law. Always crazy to see someone you know get murdered by a dancing Brit.

# ? Jul 18, 2015 13:35

Bluedeanie: Jul 20, 2008; It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?

Mr. Nice! posted:

Always crazy to see someone you know get murdered by a dancing Brit.

I seriously doubt Cung Le or Jorge Riviera have loved ones, so this may actually be the first time in recorded history that's ever happened.

# ? Jul 18, 2015 15:54

fatherdog: Feb 16, 2005

Vadim Finkelschtein posted:

When it comes to M-1 we are not really interested in any kind of co-promotion," Vadim said through a translator. "M-1 is a self-contained, European promotion which has no less than 12 shows a year, and this number is about to grow every year."

"It�s complicated to make a co-promotion. It�s a hard thing. It�s about money, and when it comes to Fedor, it's only his choice. He has a very wide choice of MMA organizations in the world, and who will make a better offer to him will get Fedor."

"I don�t think that a co-promotion with Bellator is possible. The other time when we co-promoted with Strikeforce [it was] because Fedor had a contract with M-1. Now it�s a different story. And, well to repeat what I said before, I want to say that M-1 don�t really need any co-promotion."

In the past, word is that Fedor was off put with Dana White's comments about him, and it was among the reasons he stayed outside the Octagon. Vadim says though, that none of that will matter especially during today's negotiations.

"Well I don�t think that story can influence somehow Fedor�s decision to choose UFC or any other MMA promotion. If they will make a good offer to him that will be good for himself, then he can accept this. Also Bellator can make a better offer. So I don�t think that situation can influence it somehow."

"Dana talked a lot. [He] talked a lot about Fedor, about Vadim, and he talked bad. But Fedor understands that it all was just PR. He�s not in a bad relations with Dana and he doesn�t feel anything bad about him."

Vadim was also asked about the chances of the UFC to finally sign Fedor, and whether the Reebok deal and potential loss of sponsors would affect his decision.

"I�m not sure, but I don�t think it�s going to be a big problem because I think Rebook is interested in Fedor as well as the UFC, and I think if they really want this they will find some ways."

"I think UFC have a big chance to sign Fedor. It depends on what offer they will make. If Dana would not only talk, but do some things [and] will make a good offer to Fedor, they have a big chance then."

My take - M-1 want a bidding war between Bellator and the UFC so they can get the biggest contract possible, so Vadim's walking back all their non-monetary demands.

# ? Jul 20, 2015 16:54

coconono: Aug 11, 2004; KISS ME KRIS

fatherdog posted:

[url=http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/20/9002409/fedor-emelianenko-vadim-m-1-co-promotion-ufc-mma]

My take - M-1 want a bidding war between Bellator and the UFC so they can get the biggest contract possible, so Vadim's walking back all their non-monetary demands.

the bit about reebok is interesting. Russian mobsters love the poo poo out of tracksuits so there's brand synergy there.

# ? Jul 20, 2015 16:59

Sprecherscrow: Dec 20, 2009

How valuable could Fedor possibly be at this point?

# ? Jul 20, 2015 17:36

CommonShore: Jun 6, 2014; A true renaissance man

I'd say higher than you might think. HW is a conspicuous wasteland right now, with a number of older guys having career resurgences (Arlovski, Hunt, Mir, Werdum), some of whom Fedor once demolished, or in Werdum's case, to whom Fedor suffered a loss that (dumb) people considered a fluke. Even Cro Cop has a win.

No matter where he returns, there would be a narrative much like George Foreman's later championship or even Couture-Sylvia: the old champion coming to put out the garbage fire of a terrible division and rule the mountain again.

Whether or not Fedor can actually get wins is immaterial to whether or not a promoter can make money off of that story. People will buy it. SATV:YONBHFTNA will certainly tune in for Fedor's return.

# ? Jul 20, 2015 17:43

Ty1990: Apr 22, 2011

Fedor would probably be a legit top 5 heavyweight in the UFC, but that says alot more about the HW division than Fedor. The thing is, if he's commanding huge money, I don't even think it's worth it. Fedor is a big name but is he even that big of a draw in the sense that non diehard mma fans will buy a PPV with him on it the way they did with GSP/Silva/Brock? There are plenty of matchups at HW for him, and a rematch with Werdum for the title could potentially be a pretty big fight, but I just don't see the part where Fedor comes in and draws huge money unless he works his way up to a title shot. I guess he could probably beat Mir or Arlovski and then cut the line, but I think JDS or Cain would both gently caress him up.

And him signing with Bellator doesn't make much sense to me but I also think it's probably the most likely outcome. They can pay him a billion dollars and pop a few ratings on free TV but who on that roster could he fight that people would give a poo poo about? I guess Tito Ortiz at heavyweight could maybe do like, 100,000-125,000 buys, but that's not a great number considering what they'd be paying him.

# ? Jul 20, 2015 17:44

1st AD: Dec 3, 2004; Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

I want to see Tito guillotine Fedor, that would own.

Have no interest in seeing him in legit fights with fighters I care about.

# ? Jul 20, 2015 17:56

vainman: Nov 2, 2012; I find your lack of faith... disturbing

Bellator might be a better fit because he can get sponsorships on top of whatever money they offer him

# ? Jul 20, 2015 18:01

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; c-spam cannot afford

I don't think Fedor in 2015 is a top 5 HW even if HW is a trash fire.

# ? Jul 20, 2015 18:38

Bubba Smith: Sep 27, 2004; Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.

not top 5 but I could see top 10 and at worst top 15, which is insane when you consider he hasn't fought for 3 years and was already on the decline.

UFC doesn't need Fedor for matchmaking. They need him for expansion into Russia, a slight tick in PPV sales/live gate in the US, and even dumb stuff later on like being able to use all of his Pride + Strikeforce catalog. Bellator and WSOF and such are far behind UFC in all of those areas. That's why even if UFC throws too much money at Fedor they'll get some return on the investment pretty much no matter what. Bellator is going to be gambling more and WSOF even more than that.

# ? Jul 20, 2015 18:51

vainman: Nov 2, 2012; I find your lack of faith... disturbing

I don't think WSOF can afford him. Fedor's going to get paid.

# ? Jul 20, 2015 18:52

colonel_korn: May 16, 2003

Ty1990 posted:

And him signing with Bellator doesn't make much sense to me but I also think it's probably the most likely outcome. They can pay him a billion dollars and pop a few ratings on free TV but who on that roster could he fight that people would give a poo poo about? I guess Tito Ortiz at heavyweight could maybe do like, 100,000-125,000 buys, but that's not a great number considering what they'd be paying him.

Apparently Tito is up for it, though he wants Fedor to cut to 205 for the first time in his career for the privilege of fighting Tito Ortiz, because :ortiz:

quote:

"I think Fedor is signing with Bellator, and if he can get down to 205 I would love to fight him," Ortiz told Submission Radio. "I've always fought at 205, I will always fight at 205 because I know I'm in great shape when I fight at 205, but if Bellator could put that together; wow, can you imagine after I beat McGeary, me and Fedor for the light heavyweight title? That'd be amazing."

When asked why he appeared confident in Fedor joining him at Bellator, Ortiz cited the Russian's previous working relationship with Bellator CEO Scott Coker, as well as his recent appearances at promotional signings.

"Well, you know Scott Coker is a straight shooter and I know he's an awesome guy, and I know Fedor has had that great time with Bellator at the signings, and I know Scott Coker and Fedor are good friends, his managers are good friends with him. And you know it just seems like when you're in a good business relationship, things just make sense, and I don't know. We'll see.

"I can't let the cat out of the bag too soon, can I?"

# ? Jul 20, 2015 19:35

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fatherdog posted:

[url=http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/20/9002409/fedor-emelianenko-vadim-m-1-co-promotion-ufc-mma]

My take - M-1 want a bidding war between Bellator and the UFC so they can get the biggest contract possible, so Vadim's walking back all their non-monetary demands.

"We really, really need money right now. American money, not rubles."

# ? Jul 20, 2015 20:19

colonel_korn: May 16, 2003

quote:

Jeremy Botter ‏@jeremybotter
This is a new rendering of what the Bellator Dynamite arena will look like, per @DannyBrener

haha

# ? Jul 20, 2015 23:01

CarlCX: Dec 14, 2003

That's about eight times too many fans to be realistic

also the cage and ring should be interconnected and if you successfully maneuver your opponent between them you have to change which rules you're fighting by

# ? Jul 20, 2015 23:07

-Atom-: Sep 13, 2003; Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything

colonel_korn posted:

haha

so going to this poo poo

# ? Jul 20, 2015 23:10

abraham linksys: Sep 6, 2010

must suck to have ringside seats for one ring and be literally unable to see the other

# ? Jul 20, 2015 23:16

Snowman_McK: Jan 31, 2010

Didn't Bellator used to be the sensible one?

# ? Jul 20, 2015 23:23

Triticum Guzzler: Jun 16, 2002

they should just do it with two cages, one can have tito ortiz vs whoever in it and the other can be in a replica of the kansas city power and light district where you get to watch jared hess and toby imada

# ? Jul 20, 2015 23:26

Chris James 2: Aug 9, 2012

I hope that poo poo's televised for free on Spike every event

Snowman_McK posted:

Didn't Bellator used to be the sensible one?

Hasn't been that way for a couple years at least

# ? Jul 20, 2015 23:34

CarlCX: Dec 14, 2003

Snowman_McK posted:

Didn't Bellator used to be the sensible one?

They were never sensible, they just didn't have enough money to do anything stupid.

# ? Jul 20, 2015 23:36

Snowman_McK: Jan 31, 2010

But they had seasons, and cold logic governing who got title shots and stuff. I remember. It resulted in heaps of boring fights, then, every now and then, they'd have three flying knee knockouts or two reverse triangles in the one night.

# ? Jul 21, 2015 02:45

Solomonic: Jan 3, 2008; INCIPIT SANTA

I'm a bit floored that "Vadim Finkelschtein" is the name of an actual person and not an antagonist from a Mel Gibson movie

# ? Jul 21, 2015 03:39

1st AD: Dec 3, 2004; Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

colonel_korn posted:

haha

WCW World War 32

# ? Jul 21, 2015 04:35

Chris James 2: Aug 9, 2012

Oh god that's actually going to be used for the one-night tournament with King Mo, and the main event of 2015 Tito fighting for a belt, that they announced on the Kimbo/Shamrock event :lol:

Yeah okay I'm ready for this clusterfuck to be aired

# ? Jul 21, 2015 05:30

Kekekela: Oct 28, 2004

This morning I discovered and became a fan of The Catch Wrestling Koala Bear, who apparently got a win via Guillotine last night in DEEP.

Is there a legal way to view that fight via internet? Googling has failed me thus far.

# ? Jul 21, 2015 12:50

coconono: Aug 11, 2004; KISS ME KRIS

Kekekela posted:

This morning I discovered and became a fan of The Catch Wrestling Koala Bear, who apparently got a win via Guillotine last night in DEEP.

Is there a legal way to view that fight via internet? Googling has failed me thus far.

I think DEEP has a ustream page. Not sure if that's still happening now that Ustream is out of the payment processing business.

# ? Jul 21, 2015 14:04

MysteryNad: Dec 5, 2003; Here in my guard
I feel safest of all
I can lock up my guard
It's the only way to fight
In guard

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/07/former-ufc-title-challenger-current-wsof-contender-yushin-okami-dropping-to-welterweight

Yeah, I'm sure this will end well. Maybe we'll get to see the long awaited Shields/Okami rematch. That first one was a real barn burner.

# ? Jul 22, 2015 21:19

Triticum Guzzler: Jun 16, 2002

Important updates on Ganryujima, the most important MMA promotion:

1. Results are out there for the second show, if you are so inclined as to spoil it for yourself

2. There's now a fuckin smoke moat

# ? Jul 24, 2015 22:09

Bushmeister: Nov 27, 2007; Son Of Northern Frostbitten Wintermoon

Triticum Guzzler posted:

Ganryujima

This is not the MMA we deserve but the MMA we need.

# ? Jul 24, 2015 22:13

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!

Triticum Guzzler posted:

4.

Don't post my childhood pictures online please

# ? Jul 24, 2015 23:20

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# ? May 17, 2024 16:34

Droopy Goines: Aug 2, 2003; Presented in DTS ES 6.1 where available.

If you missed the first one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H03vZJ3Tmj4

# ? Jul 24, 2015 23:49

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