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DIO aint letting that guy in the crib, he'd ruin the mood. That's why Alessi doesn't know the power of The World.
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Jul 19, 2015 19:34
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:On the topic of Alessi, he's probably the only one of the Egyptian God Stand Users that they could've gotten the secret of The World's power from considering that they were able to render him unconscious even as kids. I don't think he knew what The World did. I think the only people who knew were Enya, Vanilla Ice, Daniel D'arby, and maybe Terence D'arby. (Nukesaku would have had a clue because he was present for the testing with the bullets, at least in the anime, but he wasn't smart enough to actually figure it out.)
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Jul 19, 2015 19:41
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Aurain posted:DIO aint letting that guy in the crib, he'd ruin the mood. That's why Alessi doesn't know the power of The World. DIO actually lied to Alessi, and told him the The World's power was making an excellent Creme Brulee. DIO can just do that on his own.
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Silver2195 posted:I don't think he knew what The World did. I think the only people who knew were Enya, Vanilla Ice, Daniel D'arby, and maybe Terence D'arby. (Nukesaku would have had a clue because he was present for the testing with the bullets, at least in the anime, but he wasn't smart enough to actually figure it out.) You know for a fact that DIO abuses The World to mess around with his mansion bros all the time. Also, the shotgun shooter in manga isn't explicitly Nukesaku, that's an anime thing. Even so, if you tried to figure it out, you'd probably come to that conclusion because if DIO wanted to lash out at someone to blowing several holes into his chest if things went wrong, Nukesaku's the expendable one.
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Silver2195 posted:I don't think he knew what The World did. I think the only people who knew were Enya, Vanilla Ice, Daniel D'arby, and maybe Terence D'arby. (Nukesaku would have had a clue because he was present for the testing with the bullets, at least in the anime, but he wasn't smart enough to actually figure it out.) N'Doul did too. I was under the impression that everyone in Egypt (aside from Hol Horse) knew what Dio's Stand did.
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Jul 19, 2015 20:20
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My fave jojo is Joseph, and part 3 is the best
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Jul 19, 2015 20:49
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Namtab posted:My fave jojo is Joseph, and part 4 is the best
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Jul 19, 2015 21:19
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The guy who shoots Dio in the manga has big, beefy arms so I always liked to think it was ZZ.
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Jul 19, 2015 21:33
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Do NOT misquote me little orv
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Jul 20, 2015 00:36
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A Steampunk Gent posted:Yikes, that Alessi two-parter was genuinely unpleasant to watch. For once I wouldn't have minded if they'd just unambiguously killed the gently caress out of him, evil vampire overlords and megalomanic ancient supermen are one thing but paedophiles and child murderers can just get straight out jfc Alessi is not a pedophile. He is a creep, a jerk, a bully, and so forth. He is not a pedophile. I can't wait for anime people to accuse Kira of being a pedophile.
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Jul 20, 2015 01:17
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Iserlohn posted:I can't wait for anime people to accuse Kira of being a pedophile. That scene actually made me more uncomfortable than anything Alessi did, although not because of the belief either were pedophiles.
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Jul 20, 2015 01:24
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Iserlohn posted:jfc Alessi is not a pedophile. He is a creep, a jerk, a bully, and so forth. He is not a pedophile. Yeah, jeez guys, he's just a child abuser. That's a really super important distinction, I guess.
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Jul 20, 2015 01:34
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ASB is a good game, gg subs are terrible, and the pillar men's real names are Cars, Wham, and ACDC.
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Jul 20, 2015 01:47
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Iserlohn posted:jfc Alessi is not a pedophile. He is a creep, a jerk, a bully, and so forth. He is not a pedophile. Oh right he just gets his thrills out of chasing down and murdering kids, that's a whole other ballpark right? Also this is the anime thread fuckwit, leave your high horse at the door
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Alessi is a gross creepy fucker (which is why I like his battle, he makes a good villain) but I don't think it's defending or excusing his actions to say he's not a pedophile.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:ASB is a good game, gg subs are terrible, and the pillar men's real names are Cars, Wham, and ACDC. Only one of these statements is true. It's the second one
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No, he is a loving terrible human being, but I just think there is an important distinction to make between someone who wants to have sex with children and someone who preys off the weak and thrives on tormenting them. I understand that it is a retreaded topic and that is part of my annoyance for posting in response to it, but I am making the argument that there is nothing in those episodes to suggest that Alessi is a pedophile. It is not to defend his character or poo poo like that, but JoJo's is full of villains who deprive the heroes of strength and force them into horrible, uphill battles; villains that see the terror struck in the eyes of the heroes and draw pleasure from it. It is sort of a shallow word to use, but they are bullies. I am arguing that Alessi is no different from those other characters. Yes, there is unpleasant imagery in it (Jesus Christ that fetus), but I don't think Alessi literally wanted to perolololol Polnareff. A Steampunk Gent posted:Oh right he just gets his thrills out of chasing down and murdering kids, that's a whole other ballpark right? Yes, this is the anime thread. The same one that is ambiguously allowing discussion of the events of Diamond is Unbreakable that half the thread have already completed. Sorry if I came off as a...JoJo's elitist or something but I ain't attacking you, so cool it. Iserlohn fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Iserlohn posted:No, he is a loving terrible human being, but I just think there is an important distinction to make between someone who wants to have sex with children and someone who preys off the weak and thrives on tormenting them. I understand that it is a retreaded topic and that is part of my annoyance for posting in response to it, but I am making the argument that there is nothing in those episodes to suggest that Alessi is a pedophile. It is not to defend his character or poo poo like that, but JoJo's is full of villains who deprive the heroes of strength and force them into horrible, uphill battles; villains that see the terror struck in the eyes of the heroes and draw pleasure from it. It is sort of a shallow word to use, but they are bullies. I am arguing that Alessi is no different from those other characters. Yes, there is unpleasant imagery in it (Jesus Christ that fetus), but I don't think Alessi literally wanted to perolololol Polnareff. I guess I don't understand why it's an important distinction WHY he wants to abuse children, other than to pick a semantic fight. It doesn't negate anyone's visceral responses to the episodes, and I don't think it makes him any more or less of a shitbag. Other than telling someone on SA that they're wrong, why bother?
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Alessi does what he does because he is lower than dirt. I'm not saying it's an issue why he does it, but how he does it. He debilitates Polnareff, and Polnareff must overcome the limitation put on him from Alessi's stand and defeat him. Polnareff takes advantage of his own weakened state to find an opening and deal a critical blow to Alessi. This sort of model is seen in several fights throughout the series and has very much defined the series: The heroes have to play by the rules of the enemy. Hell, the fight against Mariah last episode went down the same way. Joseph and Avdol struggle with being magnetized and the single critical attack was performed by taking advantage of the magnetism to crush Mariah in a pincer attack. It's just... unfortunate? that Alessi's way of impairing the heroes is turning them into children and then overpowering them. I literally just wanted to make a passing comment to say I am slightly annoyed by the retread of the topic and Alessi is not a pedophile. It's not a big thing. It's just matter-of-fact.
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Jul 20, 2015 04:16
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Subtext is subtext and you don't have to sperg for or against it. Because nobody loving cares.
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Jul 20, 2015 04:32
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Alessi was a bad man and I laughed when bad things happened to him.
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Jul 20, 2015 04:41
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I come bringing good news: You can finally play as a Pillar Man in Street Fighter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzrPqNHB1bo
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Neowyrm posted:I come bringing good news: You can finally play as a Pillar Man in Street Fighter Lame. They should just have put Wham in. They should put that magnificent pillar man in everything.
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Jul 20, 2015 06:37
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Bad Seafood posted:Alessi was a bad man and I laughed when bad things happened to him. Basically. I feel like overthinking Alessi doesn't really accomplish much. He was a poo poo person and he got poo poo for it.
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Neowyrm posted:I come bringing good news: You can finally play as a Pillar Man in Street Fighter 
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Jul 20, 2015 07:12
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alessi doesn't matter because he's in an arc that doesn't matter anymore because y'all should be reading arc 4
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Jul 20, 2015 07:18
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These JoJo threads... they give me a lot of headaches.
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Jul 20, 2015 07:26
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Beef Chief posted:These JoJo threads... they give me a lot of headaches.  Confound those JoJos! They drive Beef to drink!
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Jul 20, 2015 07:30
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I don't drink alcoholic beverages.
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Jul 20, 2015 07:31
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That's good. Good health decisions.
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Jul 20, 2015 07:32
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Beef Chief posted:I don't drink alcoholic beverages. what a nerd
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Mr Beef Chief only drinks the blood of nubile young women while sat in his bed at his Cairo mansion.
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Theme song for Part IV? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKFIDLMliHo
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 I love Jojo so much, you guys
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